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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:32 PM
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Blair’s personal secretary's notes: Bush Feared 'Looking Weak' on Iraq
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2005/101405.html

Bush Feared 'Looking Weak' on Iraq

By Robert Parry
October 15, 2005


Less than two months before invading Iraq, George W. Bush fretted that his war plans could be disrupted if United Nations weapons inspectors succeeded in gaining Saddam Hussein’s full cooperation, possibly leaving Bush “looking weak,” according to notes written by a secretary to British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

The notes, taken by Blair’s personal secretary Matthew Rycroft, were included in a new edition of Lawless World, a book by University College professor Philippe Sands. The notes on the Jan. 30, 2003, phone call between Bush and Blair were reviewed by the New York Times, which said they were marked secret and personal.

At the time, Blair wanted Bush to seek a second resolution from the U.N. Security Council that would have judged Iraq to be in violation of U.N. disarmament demands and would have authorized military action. According to the notes, Bush agreed that “it made sense to try for a second resolution, which he would love to have.”

But Bush’s deeper worry was that chief U.N. arms inspector Hans Blix would conclude that Hussein’s government was cooperating in the search for weapons of mass destruction, thus delaying or blocking U.S.-led military action. Bush’s “biggest concern was looking weak,” the British document said.

Blix indeed did judge that Iraq was cooperating with the inspectors, who weren’t finding any WMD even at sites pinpointed by U.S. intelligence.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:34 PM
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1. now he looks weak and stupid
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 06:08 PM
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14. He can't help but look stupid.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 06:43 PM
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21. As a kid, blowing up frogs made him feel powerful.
Wonder how weak a frog march will make him feel. Despicable narcissistic perma-child. When Nixon was going down, so they tell us, one of the responsible sane adults (Al Haig, if I remember right) made sure to keep his hands away from the :nuke: button. I'm not sure there are any responsible sane adults in this White House.
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verse18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 06:50 PM
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24. I think
he is pushing this war like he is so he can justify "pushing the botton" and dropping a bomb on someone.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 07:55 PM
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37. Worse yet: Weak, stupid, stubborn, and unable to learn from mistakes.
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SammyBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 02:22 AM
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52. Other than weak and stupid,
He now looked pigheaded, foolish, blood thirsty and stubborn.

History will not be kind to this shitstain or his underlings.

His father should have done what he should do in Iraq: PULL OUT!!!
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:43 PM
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2. He didn't want to look weak.
So he made sure others were sent to fight and die.

If there's any justice....
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 06:39 PM
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20. Excuse me.
It wasn't that Bush feared he would look weak if he didn't rush into "shock and awe" against Iraq. He feared that if Blix, and maybe, others, say there are no WMDs, it would weaken his case for going into Iraq to grab control of the oil and subsequently the control of the Middle East. This scenario was in their plans from the day they stole the '00 election.:nuke:
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maryallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 07:52 PM
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34. Ding! Ding! Ding!
You got it.

He made a deal with the "devil" -- the one behind the curtain:

Make me president and I will give you the war you want and all the riches that follow ... and I will strengthen Israel by waging continuous war and establishing bases throughout the Middle East.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:16 PM
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41. Welcome to DU, disndat!
:hi: :toast:
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 01:48 PM
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56. I don't know
A part of me believes you are right, but another part of me sees Bush* as enept to the ways of how the world operates. The grab for Middle East oil control was/is contrived by the PNACers, GW was never a part of that, though his brother is.

The money-men assured Bush* got into office in 2000, and stayed in 2004 because they had to gain and remain in control at any cost. They had plans for the Middle East long before the 2000 coup. Bush* was/is their fool and tool. I'm sure it wasn't hard to prod him into believing whatever craziness that is going on in his head. So, part of me believes Bush*, the cowboy, did fear looking weak before the American people and the world. I think he actually believes the bullshit he spews.

And, all this just turns my stomach and makes me want to cry that someone so pliable is in charge, and that so many Stepford-Americans support him.
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 07:08 PM
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28. If there is justice * will choke on another pretzel, but this time
he'll be too zoned out on Jägermeister to get help. I wish things on this "man" and the filth surrounding him (including his wife and his mother) that I wouldn't wish on anyone. When their time comes they don't deserve burial. Just leave 'em in a ditch by the highway.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:44 PM
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3. A person of genuine strength does not care what the appearances are.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:47 PM
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4. exactly n/t
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:54 PM
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13. but many americans are as shallow as bush.
and they want their dose of phony macho.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:53 PM
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5. So Bush WAS in violation of the IWR which called for weapons inspections
FIRST before the president ON HIS OWN made the determination that war was unavoidable based on the information collected by the UN inspectors.

Impeach the lying bastard.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:48 PM
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11. correct
Hans Blix was clear about that all along.
He should have been impeached right then and there.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 04:06 PM
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6. That certainly makes everything worthwhile
It's worth a few thousand Allied lives and at least 100,000 Iraqi lives to keep Bush from looking weak.
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 04:08 PM
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7. It's Weak Not to Admit Your Mistakes
But I guess Bush doesn't know this.

Tammy
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:42 PM
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8. problem is
he IS weak and he IS stupid...and maybe he is just smart enough to know it...and that makes him damn dangerous.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:43 PM
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9. god -- does that speak VOLUMES.
the notion that millions of people in this country think that bush looks, is, seems, etc. tough, strong, decisive has always mystified me -- bush is such a fuckin PHONY.

there is nothing particularly decisive about this guy -- oh except killing death row inmates.

bush is a WUSSY -- you freep fucks -- a fuckin WUSSY!
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 07:14 PM
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29. True that. Connecticut-born ivy league bushie come across
like a little kid playing cowboy dress-up. But somehow the clods who would should have by rights kicked his candy ass the first time he put on a designer stetson have bought hook line and sinker this idea that he's the king of the old west. Bunch of dumb fucks. There has got to be some major soul-searching going on among my red-state neighbors now that their trained chimp is self-destructing for the world to see.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:44 PM
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10. "I want my WAR, dammit!" (sucks thumb)
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:48 PM
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12. tens of thousands have died
because he didn`t want to look like a coward.....
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 06:12 PM
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15. And people wonder why we HATE this man....
:eyes:
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verse18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 06:19 PM
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16. Keep in Mind
our darling prez "used to be" an alcoholic. No matter what he has done spiritually to atone for his vice, his brain is missing quite a few cells. If I'm not mistaken, alcoholism is a disease. I think the nation is basically enabling an alkie.:toast:
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:00 PM
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44. Not ALL of the nation. Just the other idiots.
The rest of us are trying to do what we can without getting arrested.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 06:29 PM
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17. Afraid of looking weak to whom...
anyone with a brain (which, of course excludes freepers) knew that Bush was already weak.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 06:48 PM
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23. and of course his fear of being weak was being exploited
by Cheney & co. Fear of looking 'weak' really had nothing to do with invading Iraq. Maybe in little Georgies insecure brain..
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 06:51 PM
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25. The guy has some SERIOUS mental problems...
I would love to get him "on the couch" and get some candid answers about his parents and how he was raised. Babs and Poppy, considering the character of their other kids, as well, probably would never be nominated for the "parents of the year" award.
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 06:32 PM
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18. So we killed all those people by choice.

Remember when bush said something to the effect that it wasn't a war of choice. Well this article shows that was total bullshit.

We killed all those people, spent all that money, and all of our soldiers died because bush didn't want to "look weak."

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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 06:15 PM
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57. No. HE killed all those people by choice.
I don't think we need hesitate to separate ourselves from this fuck-stick. The war fetishists with the W stickers and the magnetic ribbons can have my share of the guilt, thank you, although I know they still think Iraq is the full flowering of amurrican manhood.
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LatinoSocialist Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 06:35 PM
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19. little dick compensating asshat! NT
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 06:43 PM
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22. What a POS.
bush is a cancer.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 06:58 PM
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26. Wow! Karma has finally caught up with the Asshole in chief
Just when I think it can't get any better, I log onto DU and am pleasantly surprised once again. :bounce:
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 07:00 PM
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27. W feared looking weak and tens of thousands died: what a small price to
pay to assuage W's fears.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 07:29 PM
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30. on the bright side
after all those lives and murdered journalists and 100,000 iraq dead and all the slaughter of innocents in the name of the great USA;

The War has been botched so badly we will have wasted 200 BILLION and still not have any oil to show for it!

Can we pull out and still keep 100% control of all the oil?

Can we pull out and still keep the 14 bases we're building there?

Both utterly wrong on all levels of international law and botched beyond all recognition besides. These guys could not have fucked this up any worse if they were deliberately trying!

And America re-elected this fuck-up in the midst of this thousand year clusterfuck!

America is fucked and we're all going to get what this country deserves.

-85%
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 07:55 PM
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36. We truly get the government we deserve when an incumbent of known
ideology, timber, and agenda is returned to office and still gets unbelievable favorable ratings when considering all the known disasters and monstrous f**k-ups.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 07:31 PM
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31. bush fears looking weak, and kills thousands illegally. Hmm...
That must be one mighty small pecker.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 07:44 PM
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32. so as ever, all of this comes down to his tiny little dick and his
insufficient testosterone. Honest. To. God.
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HamiltonHabs32 Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 07:51 PM
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33. does this news
actually suprise anybody?

Is he still your president? :P
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il_lilac Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 11:08 PM
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47. He was never MY president
My presidents are the ones chosen and stolen from- President Gore and President Kerry!
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 07:55 PM
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35. So GEORGE W. BUSH KICKED THE INSPECTORS OUT OF IRAQ.
Resulting in the DEATHS of nearly 2000 Americans.

Resulting in the maiming of nearly 25,000 Americans.

Resulting in the DEATHS of 100,000+ civilians.

Resulting in the financial loss to Americans of $7 billion USD every month.

Resulting in world hatred of America.

Resulting in increased terrorism.

RAH RAH RAH!
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EuroObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 11:23 AM
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54. This was obvious at the time
Edited on Sat Oct-15-05 11:24 AM by EuroObserver
to the rest of the world.

Were US citizens not informed?

on edit: This could well have been part of what may have been pissing off the apparently suicided Dr. David Kelly.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 11:29 AM
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55. Many US cits still think WMD were found, Iraq did 911, the UN approved
bush's war of aggression...
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 07:58 PM
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38. Goes to show it was all political even more
Ugh! Bush cared more about his own fucking image instead of the truth and he didn't care how many lives were lost. :mad: Asshole.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:04 PM
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39. So 4 more kids/and/or/parents DIED today because the little
crying baby in the W.H. did not want to LOOK weak?!?

And decided TO BREAK ALL COMMON LAWS because he's a WEAK COWARD! :grr:

:cry: (1,966 this morning 14/10/05): http://icasualties.org

http://costofwar.com

Talk about Personal Irresponsibility!! :mad: :nuke:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:04 PM
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40. Why? Because he IS weak. He's a limpdick lying coward.
Thousands died because Bush is too lazy to see a shrink. He didn't want anyone to find out his secret fear, his truth. He is WEAK. He is NOTHING. There is no THERE THERE.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:09 PM
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45. nothing scarier than the truth! n/t
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:20 PM
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42. Anything that leads to a peaceful resolution...
is considered "weak?" That just about says all that needs to be said about W and his rogue crew. We cannot afford three more years of this - these people need to go. Now.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:39 PM
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43. So, now we know what the "noble cause" is -
To save Bush's face. May he rot in hell.
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:13 PM
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46. Hell can wait...at least until Nuremburg II!
I suggest they hold the tribunals in the town where * killed all those wedding guests. I think I could set aside my opposition to any form of execution for these talking turds. I wonder what Governor Death Penalty would think of the view from the gallows. Just be sure Cheney doesn't take the Göring way out and have another infarction before his Date with Justice. Ladies too, Condi. Then, of course, hell.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 11:43 PM
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48. I think you are too optimistic. Such a scenario would be heaven
on earth. Don't you think?
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 11:32 AM
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63. Ah, yes...
but we can dream, can't we?
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zonkra Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 11:48 PM
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49. Miss Condi...
... can I go pee-pee now?
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zonkra Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 11:52 PM
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50. Okay...
I can wait until recess. I'm a big boy now. Don't tell my daddy, or I'll be in trouble with Mommy.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 11:57 PM
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51. He is weak. He was always weak. He always looked weak.
He still looks weak.

A bully is a weak person.
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Herman47 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 10:25 AM
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53. Send Bush and company to Guantanamo for a long stretch...
...that would be appropriate punishment.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 06:23 PM
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58. another great find, thanks G_J
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motocicleta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 07:33 PM
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59. that miserable asshat
This may be the saddest bit of news of all. All because he was too weak to appear weak.
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 08:13 PM
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60. Now he just looks like a CRIMINAL!
AND HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THIS PAIN!



"Sad to the depths of his 4-year-old soul, Jack Shanaberger knew what he didn't want to be when he grows up: a father.

"I don't want to be a daddy because daddies die," the child solemnly told his mother after his father, Staff Sgt. Wentz "Baron" Shanaberger, a military policeman from Fort Pierce, Fla., was killed March 23 in an ambush in Iraq.

On that terrible day, Jack and his four siblings joined the ranks of the largely overlooked American casualties who, until now, have gone uncounted. Although almost daily official announcements tally the war dead, the collateral damage to the children left behind has not been detailed."

http://www.veteranstoday.com/topic25.html
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zonkra Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 08:45 PM
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61. Obviously
he never got over being a boy cheerleader who landed in Texas and even thought he had to fistfight his dad to try to prove to himself that he was one macho dude. What a self-loathing fake. If he ever got honest for one second, he would have ended up a floral designer at WalMart. Instead, he blew up horny toads with firecrackers, became an asshole of the highest order, and inflicted himself on humanity like J. Edgar Hoover only dreamed about in his tightest leather teddy.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 11:24 AM
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62. Blair told Bush "First Afghanistan. THEN Iraq."
Not only does Bush look weak, he is weak. And stupid.

On Sept. 11, 2001, the unelected war monkey wanted to go straight after Poppy's unfinished business buddy.

Amerika's poodle had to talk Smirko into going after Al Quaeda and their hosts FIRST.

Radical Russ got the great Juan Cole's observations:



Bush wanted to attack Iraq, not Afghanistan, immediately after 9/11

I've linked to Professor Juan Cole's blog for a long time now. He's a Professor of History at the University of Michigan and an invaluable and highly-informed source on matters of the Middle East. Professor Cole is reporting that Bush wanted to get his Iraq war on immediately following 9/11, instead of going after Osama, the Taliban, and al Qaeda in Afghanistan (you know, the actual perpetrators of 9/11). Tony Blair, wary of al Qaeda targeting London, had to beg Bush to go to Afghanistan first, and then only after promising full British support of an Iraq invasion.
Lying criminal treasonous swine. You think you'd hear about this on the news. If only Tony Blair had been wearing a stained blue dress...

Astonishingly, the Bush administration almost took the United States to war against Iraq in the immediate aftermath of Sept. 11. We know about this episode from the public account of Sir Christopher Meyer, then the U.K. ambassador in Washington. Meyer reported that in the two weeks after Sept. 11, the Bush national security team argued back and forth over whether to attack Iraq or Afghanistan. It appears from his account that Bush was leaning toward the Iraq option.

Meyer spoke again about the matter to Vanity Fair for its May 2004 report, "The Path to War." Soon after Sept. 11, Meyer went to a dinner at the White House, "attended also by Colin Powell, Condi Rice," where "Bush made clear that he was determined to topple Saddam. 'Rumors were already flying that Bush would use 9/11 as a pretext to attack Iraq,' Meyer remembers." When British Prime Minister Tony Blair arrived in Washington on Sept. 20, 2001, he was alarmed. If Blair had consulted MI6 about the relative merits of the Afghanistan and Iraq options, we can only imagine what well-informed British intelligence officers in Pakistan were cabling London about the dangers of leaving bin Laden and al-Qaida in place while plunging into a potential quagmire in Iraq. Fears that London was a major al-Qaida target would have underlined the risks to the United Kingdom of an "Iraq first" policy in Washington.

Meyer told Vanity Fair, "Blair came with a very strong message -- don't get distracted; the priorities were al-Qaida, Afghanistan, the Taliban." He must have been terrified that the Bush administration would abandon London to al-Qaida while pursuing the great white whale of Iraq. But he managed to help persuade Bush. Meyer reports, "Bush said, 'I agree with you, Tony. We must deal with this first. But when we have dealt with Afghanistan, we must come back to Iraq.'" Meyer also said, in spring 2004, that it was clear "that when we did come back to Iraq it wouldn't be to discuss smarter sanctions." In short, Meyer strongly implies that Blair persuaded Bush to make war on al-Qaida in Afghanistan first by promising him British support for a later Iraq campaign.


SOURCE:

http://www.radicalruss.net/blog/2005/06/bush-wanted-to-attack-iraq-not.php





Bush and Blair made secret pact for Iraq war

· Decision came nine days after 9/11
· Ex-ambassador reveals discussion


David Rose
Sunday April 4, 2004
The Observer

President George Bush first asked Tony Blair to support the removal of Saddam Hussein from power at a private White House dinner nine days after the terror attacks of 11 September, 2001.

According to Sir Christopher Meyer, the former British Ambassador to Washington, who was at the dinner, Blair told Bush he should not get distracted from the war on terror's initial goal - dealing with the Taliban and al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.

SNIP...

Faced with this prospect of a further war, he adds, Blair 'said nothing to demur'.

Details of this extraordinary conversation will be published this week in a 25,000-word article on the path to war with Iraq in the May issue of the American magazine Vanity Fair. It provides new corroboration of the claims made last month in a book by Bush's former counter-terrorism chief, Richard Clarke, that Bush was 'obsessed' with Iraq as his principal target after 9/11.

But the implications for Blair may be still more explosive. The discussion implies that, even before the bombing of Afghanistan, Blair already knew that the US intended to attack Saddam next, although he continued to insist in public that 'no decisions had been taken' until almost the moment that the invasion began in March 2003. His critics are likely to seize on the report of the two leaders' exchange and demand to know when Blair resolved to provide the backing that Bush sought.

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http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,6903,1185407,00.html



This is old news to you, G_j. It's new to most Americans, unfortunately. Once they get the Truth, Smirko, Sneer and Poodle boy will find themselves in The Hague fast. While European prisons may seem more humane, they run experiments on the mind, I hear.
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