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NewInNewJ. Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:47 PM
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Republicans keep saying Bush's low poll numbers
are no lower then the lowest of several past Presidents. Does anyone know if that is true?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:48 PM
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1. It's A Damnable Lie
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 03:49 PM by Beetwasher
Check out www.pollingreport.com

No one in the history of polling ever had 2% support among blacks.

Clinton NEVER got this low.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:49 PM
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2. He's more hated Nixon who held the previous title as most hated president.
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 03:59 PM by CottonBear
That should tell you something. I think he may be one of the lowest rated presidents ever since the advent of modern polling.

edit: He's not the lowest depending on which category and historical period that you look at.
Truman had a dismal 22% job approval rating in a 1952 Gallup Poll:

A Presidency On Life Support

by John Kenneth White


The George W. Bush presidency is on life support. At first, these words seem harsh and overstated. For starters, Bush has more than a thousand days left in office. He can nominate Supreme Court justices and get them confirmed, as the 78 to 22 Senate vote for John Roberts so easily demonstrates. He also wields other important constitutional powers, including the veto which he can use to impose his will on a recalcitrant Congress. Finally, he retains considerable diplomatic and war powers at his disposal. But for the remainder of his presidency, George W. Bush will govern without the consent of the governed.

That last fact has been underscored by a flurry of recent public polls. In nearly all of them, Bush’s job approval is hovering at 40%. Behind the job approval numbers are many other signs of a presidency in trouble. A Democracy Corps survey finds 58% want to go in a significantly different direction away from Bush; 56% believe he is "in over his head;" and 44% say they are "finished" with him.

Two years ago, pollster John Zogby and I penned an article dubbing Bush "The Fifty-Something President." For the foreseeable future, we wrote, Bush’s job approval rating would flutter around 50% -- a forecast that held true on Election Day 2004, when Bush captured 51% of the ballots. After defeating John Kerry, there was every indication that the President could maintain the overwhelming Republican support that kept him at 50% in the polls. In fact, the near-unanimous backing from the GOP rank-and-file and members of Congress gave Bush a unique second term opportunity. After claiming victory, Bush told reporters he had acquired "political capital, and now I intend to spend it . . . Social Security and tax reform, moving this economy forward, education, fighting and winning the war on terror." This accumulation of capital was evident in a Gallup poll taken two weeks after his second inauguration: 57% approved of Bush’s performance, 40% disapproved. As of mid-September, those figures were reversed: 40% approved of Bush’s job performance, while 58% disapproved, according to Gallup. Just nine months into his second term, Bush’s political capital is all but spent. If he were a bank, he’d have to declare bankruptcy.

(snip)

On the other hand, six presidents since FDR have failed to recoup their public standing: Harry S. Truman, Lyndon B. Johnson, Richard M. Nixon, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, and George H. W. Bush.

In 1952, Harry Truman saw his job approval rating fall to a mere 22% in the Gallup Poll. By then, Truman had become mired in the Korean War. Day after day, U.S. soldiers battled the North Koreans and Chinese for control of one small hill or another, without either side winning a decisive victory. Americans tired of Truman and felt he had no plan for resolving the conflict, and they turned to Dwight D. Eisenhower -- especially after the World War Two general told voters, "I shall go to Korea."

more...
http://www.pollingreport.com/whitejk.htm
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:50 PM
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3. All I heard was that they were almost as low as Nixon before he
resigned. I know BC's #'s stayed way up there during the YEARS of investigations he endured!
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:52 PM
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4. I think Carter was a little lower at one point...
Jimmy Carter through an unfortunate set of circumstances and a couple of ineffective policy decisions was extremely unpopular toward the end. Probably less popular than Bush at this point.

How about this, Bush will never hit Herbert Hoover numbers.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:54 PM
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5. Mary Matalin said just yesterday that Clinton had similar poll numbers
in his second term. Of course it's a total lie.


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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:56 PM
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6. Clinton: Term 2: Low 53%/High 75%
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NewInNewJ. Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:56 PM
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7. Thanks everyone, I searched, couldn't find anything,
Thanks for you help and time.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:58 PM
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10. Those Charts Really Don't Show It Right
Now let's narrow the ranges down...(Repugnicans are good at this)...show the 35-95% range...or just take Clinton's numbers from this past year and booooosh's and then narrow the ranges down accordingly (you won't have to worry about booooosh's being so high). The contrast is big.

I love that top chart...I used to see it regularly. Now I feel proud to be in that 9% in the immediate days after 9/11 that didn't trust or approve of this asshat and for the same reasons then as I do now.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 04:26 PM
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14. Know what the best part of that Clinton chart is?
The early part where FAUX didn't exist. :)
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Sparkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:58 PM
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8. Friends...IN A TIME OF WAR, HE CAN'T UNITE US? aristocracy??? much!
If the nation is at war, and it is, the sacrifices of those in harms' way, the dumps' economy, the failed election integrity, the fear mongering, the squandered national treasure....this lack of unity is like an air raid siren! imo
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:58 PM
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9. The 'Pukes are talking through their ass.
'nuff said.

:kick:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 04:08 PM
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11. They haven't seen bottom yet. What will they say then?
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 04:22 PM
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12. They always have...
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 04:26 PM
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13. Republicans: Always Seeking The Lowest Possible Standards
... for themselves. At the same time, others are held to standards even Gandhi didn't meet.
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