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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:17 PM
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The Iraqi Constitution: A Referendum for Disaster
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 05:32 PM by G_j
The Iraqi Constitution: A Referendum for Disaster
(October 13, 2005)

Phyllis Bennis of the Institute for Policy Studies critically examines Iraq's constitution. The Bush administration has heavily influenced the entire process, from drafting the document to rushing into elections, in an eager attempt to consolidate US control while validating claims of "democratization." Far from democratic, the constitution lacks legitimate Iraqi consensus and threatens the country with increased conflict.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/election/2005/1013disaster.htm

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• The ratification process reflects U.S., not Iraqi urgency, and is resulting in a vote in which most Iraqis have not even seen the draft, and amendments are being reopened and negotiated by political parties and elites in Baghdad as late as four days before the planned referendum.

• The proposed constitution would strip Iraqis of future control over their nation's oil wealth by opening all new oil exploration and production to foreign oil companies.

• The imposition of federalism as defined in the draft constitution undermines Iraqi national consciousness and sets the stage for a potential division of Iraq largely along ethnic and religious lines, with financial, military, and political power devolving from the central government to the regional authorities. All groups risk sectoral as well as national interests.

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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:27 PM
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1. That really brakes it down nicely
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mestup Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:30 PM
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2. Great link, thanks.
<snip>
"The U.S. goal is to justify the claim that Iraq is "moving towards democracy" and that the post-invasion, occupied reality of Iraq in 2005 is somehow equivalent to the experience of the United States at the time of the drafting of the U.S. constitution."

Unfortunately, most uninformed Americans believe it's exactly like that!
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:56 PM
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3.  people have never even seen a draft
can't imagine literally risking my life to vote
on something I've never even seen or read

:shrug:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 08:16 AM
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4. ~~
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 10:03 AM
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5. kick
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 10:05 AM
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6. But now Iraqi women can be stoned to death! PROGRESS!
BUSH'S PROGRESS; "Iraq Constitution"!

#1. bush will LIE AGAIN this week about his "PROGRESS" in Iraq;

MOST IRAQIS HAVE NOT EVEN SEEN THE CONSTITUTION THEY'RE TO VOTE ON.

Gee what "PROGRESS"!

It's expected to pass, because the VIOLENCE will keep Iraqis away from the voting booths.

Gee what "PROGRESS"!

Iraqis vote on 'invisible' constitution

Insurgency hampers distribution of crucial document as millions prepare to go to the polls this week...
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article318225.ece

#2. 2000 Americans dead...for an IRANIAN-STYLE ISLAMIC STATE of repressed women in IRAQ;

"Unmaking Iraq, the Constitutional Process Gone Awry,"

The Iraqi constitution as written will push that country toward full-scale civil war, a report from a nonprofit organization warns. Melissa Block talks with Robert Malley, director of the International Crisis Group's Middle East program.
http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?l=1&id=3703

"It may well be more of a prelude to civil war than a step forward," Anthony H. Cordesman said in an analysis for the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

The Bush administration endorsed Iraq's proposed new constitution yesterday, but analysts warned that some provisions can be interpreted to undermine everything from the distribution of political power to a secular judiciary, from women's rights to fair distribution of oil revenue.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/24/AR2005082402217_pf.html

There are, however, significant doubts about the religious nature of the new constitution...

"It is written by Islamists for Islamists"

Zainab and her friend Zahra, 37, are both deeply apprehensive about the effect the constitution will have on women's rights. Since "liberation" by US-led forces they have seen the growth in the power of Muslim clerics and the diminishing power of choice.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article318609.ece

The Iraqi constitution's downside for women
http://www.juancole.com/2005/09/iraqi-constitutions-downside-for-women.html

Iraqi Women May Lose Basic Rights Under New Constitution
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0723-06.htm

Iraq's Draft Constitution Is Said to Deepen Divide...will likely trigger civil war...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/26/AR2005092601442.html

UN issues warning over Iraq constitution

There are fears that Iraq's draft Constitution, due to go a referendum next week, could trigger the break up of the country and even spark a bloody civil war.
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2005/s1473209.htm
Americans Die for Sharia (ISLAMIC STATE) in Iraq

It's so Abdul the Iraqi can have six wives. It's so women can be forced to wear the abaya, alcohol can be banned, and sharia law – Muslim religious beliefs as interpreted by a council of mullahs and "grand ayatollahs" – can become the law of the land. As one of the Shi'ite clerics' representatives put it the other day:

"We don't want to see equality between men and women because according to Islamic law, men should have double of women. This is written in the Quran and according to God."
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=4774

#3. Iraq "constitution"...A Lose-Lose Referendum;

Five days before Saturday's referendum on Iraq's proposed constitution, the U.S. foreign policy elite appears both anxious and gloomy, increasingly worried that win or lose, the process will bring Iraq one step closer to civil war and, with it, the possible destabilisation of the wider region.

"We've looked for the constitution to be a national pact, and the perception now is that it's not," Gen. George Casey, the commander of U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq, told lawmakers here last week. "Now this constitution has come out, and it didn't come out as a national compact that we thought it was going to be."

Makiya believes the combination of violence and the constitution threatens "the very idea and very possibility of an Iraq".

Barbara Bodine, a veteran diplomat and Middle East expert currently at Harvard University, whose appointment to a senior CPA post after the invasion was blocked by neo-conservatives in the Pentagon, echoed that view.

"The United States has 'Lebanonised' Iraq. It is ironic that a structure that worked so poorly for Lebanon is now the template for Iraq."
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1012-03.htm

#4. LUCKY Iraqi women! STONING FOR ADULTERY coming soon!

La Repubblica: "Putting it in a nutshell, there will be no more stoning of adulterous women, is that it?"

Al-Yasari, cleric al Sistani's spokesman:
"Well, it depends. In the case of married women whom eye witnesses can accuse of betraying their husbands, the punishment can only be that. But in any event there will be very few exemplary sentences, and they will always be issued after a fair trial."

Welcome to "liberated" Iraq – that’s what our troops are dying for, and that’s what you’re paying for. It’s medievalism with a "democratic" face.

http://www.iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/39110

STONING WOMEN! CIVIL WAR! VOTE for a "constitution" you've never read! That's PROGRESS if you're a bushbot idiot!
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 01:02 PM
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7. much thanks
great links and info.

Seems like there are just a handful of folks who are questioning this.
very frustrating and frightening..

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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 01:06 PM
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8. What kind of approval requires 2/3 to reject it?
It's approved unless 2/3 of Sunnis reject it.

And most of them aren't voting.

It's a sham.


http://www.webcomicsnation.com/neillisst/
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 01:10 PM
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9. its okay, ameriKan TV says it is a success
:puke:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 06:44 AM
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10. oh yes
freedom on the march :sarcasm:


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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 07:15 AM
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11. I really like the part where the US gets to steal their oil.
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