Here ya go! :hi:

How many times will this guy say "Minister Louis Farrakhan"? I think I counted about 50 times already. LOL.

He has got to talk so that they can keep getting donations.

This guy is good at what he does however.

Just said something about Bush! Bashed him good.

for the keynote address - just watch and enjoy!!

She has written a new book- it's wonderful!

They are now doing a musical tribute to her.

for me please.

Here is her website....


http://www.vanjoproductions.com/ht_height.php

will order it next week.

Dr Dorothy Height. Listen to the clarity in her voice for a woman who is 93 years old. Always on message as well. Respect sister!!

http://www.aaregistry.com/african_american_history/772/Dorothy_Height_a_model_of_social_consistency

Man she looks good.

And was she sporting that hat or what?

edited for spelling

sounds even better. Here's Sheila Jackson-Lee. Great to see this unity. Anyone see Obama?

for all of our friends from last night

:toast:

But we know they won't be watching. :-)

Finally, we are not separated !

Black people and Whites that are willing to put their thinking "History supplied by those that want us to believe that Black Muslims are evil" aside will learn today.

I think it is possible to listen and learn from the Nation of Islam. I don't have to agree with every thing Farrakan says but I certainly don't hate him or his movement.

How I wish though, that it was Malcom X giving us this message today.

Him or Dr. King. :( Or Robert or John Kennedy.

and sadly, he was misunderstood, by those that listened to the MSM, during his life time.

Many allowed others to do their thinking for them.

That is why this is such an important and historic day for African Americans and the World.

We should be able to listen to the message of Rev. Farrakan and make our own decisions.

I would be surprised if he says anything that should frighten anyone here that is truly a liberal.

Peace

I was still able to edit my Original Message. Hope it works.

but we had the radio on. I heard only a snippet of Sharpton's speech. Did anyone here the whole thing? How was it? The parts I heard were pretty powerful.

I saw a thread about it here.

Now Dorothy Height is speaking!
She is a TRUE AMERICAN HERO!

To see her speak at this gathering sends an amazing signal to those Blacks over 60 that it is just fine to support EVERY SPEAKER.

She is our matriarch!
The National Council of Negro Woman is powerful.
Her words just blessed this gathering and that is taking it to a new level.

There is a huge march going on in Washington now and it is being broadcast on CSPAN. These folks that have shown up are speaking truth to power. They are addressing the lie that took us to war. We should have joined forces with this march. Lent support to our fellow citizens of color and given wings to the concepts of freedom and justice. Tune in and watch.

on the march.

I've seen three and they have been very positive about the March.

It is extremely informative and well done.

of fallen heroes early this morning with Bob Marley's Redemption Song. Was great to see Maurice Bishop from Grenada and Che among the fallen heroes.

Very effective with some great speeches. Appealing to the youngsters with 'their music' is also great. Loved Wyclef's New Orlean's Carnival - very Caribbean.
Clearly they got the cameras right for this march since we are seeing the people. Do not miss Farrakhan today.

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Very moving.

It has been inspiring.

Millions of Black Americans will hear all the messages of today's March!

I loved that everyone got together, Christian and Non Christians, everyone is supportive.

you'll find some threads

where's george? ha ha ha ha
that's a beautiful crowd. Black Panthers are back. Louis Farrakhan is coming up soon.

I only learned about it a few days ago.

Rev. Sharpton was great, as usual. Wyclef Jean got the crowd fired up. Waiting for Farrakhan now.

this march/movement was conceived and have received little response as well. Change is only going to come when we all join forces as brothers and sisters. These causes are not just black, white, red, or yellow (pardon the colors) causes, but are human causes. We need to make common cause. Farrakhan invited all. I'm ashamed that the white community did not show up. Early this morning there were Native American participants.

But also got very little response. I got the impression that this was only a "black thing", but the reason I got motivated about it in the first place was because Chuck D was on Air America talking about, inviting everbody to show up.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=258&topic_id=2579

...and no response. I was getting ready to institute a "what color is your soul?" thread to see how pale DU is. Sorry if that sounds pissy, but I was becoming disgusted by the lack of attention here and on Air American Radio. I felt better when I saw the great coverage yesterday on DemocracyNow! -- Amy and Juan have every color of people there is in their souls.

Very telling. :(

Black gay activist Keith Boykin was stopped from addressing the Millions More Movement rally in Washington, D.C., Saturday morning.

Boykin, board president of National Black Justice Coalition, said that Rev. Barbara Skinner, the event's program manager, refused to admit him to the stage area and said he was not listed on the program.

Boykin claimed that Skinner walked over to Rev. Willie Wilson, the executive director of the event, to ask about Boykin. Wilson smirked as he told Skinner that Boykin would not be speaking at the rally, according to Boykin and Donna Payne, NBJC vice president and a Human Rights Campaign organizer, who was also present.

Boykin, was invited to speak at the rally during a telephone conference on Wednesday by Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan, the founder of the Million More event.

http://www.washblade.com/thelatest/thelatest.cfm?blog_id=2973

Sorry, but Farrakhan, Wilson, and the other leaders of the march lost any credibility with me when they revealed themselves to be just as bigoted as the Repugnantcans.

This is what CNN is reporting.

Dozens of speakers -- academics, activists and media pundits -- took the microphone at the National Mall for a few minutes each. A speaker from a black gay group, added to the roster at the last minute, also spoke.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/15/millions.more.ap/index.html

:shrug:

<snip> Despite anti-gay statements by Farrakhan and other march organizers, Cleo Manago of Black Men's Exchange, which calls itself a group for black men of "diverse sexual/intimate expression," briefly addressed the crowd. <snip>

Cleo Manago does not consider himself to be gay...
http://washingtonblade.com/2005/10-14/news/national/millions-more.cfm
<snip>Cleo Manago, founder of the Black Men’s Xchange, who identifies as ‘same gender loving’ and not gay, said he would likely speak at the Millions More Movement march this weekend. <snip>

not the same guy, NOT the same message...again, the MSM gets it wrong.
Jesus! And I'm sitting here doing this clean-up research for free in my jammies!
:nuke:

said that Boykin would be speaking, that Farrakhan asked him to join them - that he wanted it to be inclusive. I hope they were right.

:kick:

just dammit. I had hoped that Farrakhan would have seen this as an opportunity to walk the walk and prove his critics wrong. I am very, very disappointed now. Anxious to hear everything Keith Boykin has to say about it.

Dammit. :nuke:

be careful whose propaganda you believe.

It's possible that Boykin was allowed to speak later ... but the point that Farrakahn renegged on his earlier promise say a lot about his integrity (or lack thereof).

They are looking for ANYTHING to take this March down.

There are a million things to praise and the good old MSM hits on this.

Black People are very supportive of Homosexuals!!

here's PJ from Jamaica land we love.

Where do you get that blacks are supportive of gays?

There are a number that are ... but looked at the homophobia being preached in so many black churchs (including "Rev." Wilson's ... who was one of the march organizers).

church leaders, I can tell you with the majority of Blacks that I know,we hear somethings at church but that is NOT what we truly believe.

But having watched local black churches line up to oppose gay marriage and even equal opportunity for LGBTs, I don't see a lot of compassion coming out of the churches.

Perhaps it's a regional thing and the black community where you are at is more accepting than it is here in the Midwest.

Regardless, I think the Repugnantcans had a tremendous influence in stirring up hatred and fear with the marriage issue in 2004. I hope that there will be some attempts at dialogue aimed at healing the rift between portions of the black and LGBT communities.

Blacks are not the enemy of gays. That would be the Fred Phelps types, the white fundies, and rightwingnuts.

Get real.

Granted, the majority of black voted Democratic, but enough were siphoned off by Republicans who used the gay marriage issue as a wedge in black churches.

Given your screen name, I'm assuming you are on the East Coast. No doubt the situation is different there as opposed to here in the Midwest where Republicans waved their "faith-based initiative" money at black clergy to get them on board and then stir up congregations with the marriage issue.

Blacks are not responsible for Kerry's loss. They have always voted in large majority for Dems. Maybe Kerry's loss is really "Clinton's fault." :eyes:

I live in the Southeast, the regional home to the Nat'l Baptist convention: "Founded in 1886, the National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc. (Convention) is the nation’s oldest and largest African American religious convention with an estimated membership of 7.5 million. Current President Shaw." President Shaw has publicly DENOUNCED BUSH and his handling of Katrina.

President Shaw blasts the Bush Administration for its handling of Hurricane Katrina Relief Efforts, stating:

"We hold national leaders accountable for the preventable consequences of the Hurricane Katrina disaster. September 11, 2001 attacks, the war in Iraq, and Hurricane Katrina happened on this Administration’s watch. Accountability for them all must be required."

Read the full story: Hurricane Katrina Press Release 9/7/2005



I'm in NC and I know NOT ONE Black that voted for Bush. In fact, every Black I spoke to before the election expressed their disgust with Bush. He is a freakin' joke in the Black community here. Mind you, I live in an area with a 24% Black population, not somewhere in a white midwestern state where the Black pop is at 2%, way below the nat'l average (12%).

You are right that the Repubs have wisely make Ministers, especially Black ones, a tool for their political purpose.

Black Churches have been given a lot of money by Bush to spread fear into their congregations.

"I think the Repugnantcans had a tremendous influence in stirring up hatred and fear with the marriage issue in 2004. I hope that there will be some attempts at dialogue aimed at healing the rift between portions of the black and LGBT communities."

I recall reading that 10% of the population is Gay. That means that at least 10 % of the ministers are Gay.


That means that at least 10% of the WH staff is Gay! So, that means that a lot of people are living with a lot of lies.

Really are you????? Let me help you out here.

Listen there may be some demagogues in our community but let me let you in on a carefully guarded secret.......Don't tell anyone.......

Most Black people either has a gay family member or is close to someone gay.

Last I checked, we weren't beating gay people to death and leaving them to freeze in the cold or going to the funerals of gay people with signs proclaiming 'GOD HATES FAGS"

Can we nitpick tomorrow? After all we've been through in the last 6 weeks, Can't we focus on the positive for a day.

I heard this Brother Boyin interviewed live on a local radio station about an hour ago. He didn't seem bent out of shape.

The reason DU'ers are silent about this march is because a single gay activist was turned away? I find that hard to believe. Say what you want about Farrakhan, but the fact that ANSWER sponsors all the anti-war rallies doesn't do anything to dampen our interest in them. And as I recall, 2 out of every 3 goddamn threads in GD was devoted to those marches.

Its not just here, I went over to Kos and Atrios koping to find some discussion of this event and found nothing. Zip. Nada.

The silence is curious indeed.

And frankly, because one gay speaker was turned away after he had been promised that he could speak is reason enough for me to call into question the integrity of the march organizers.

A post about Farrakahan being a crazy SOB attracts folks like flies.

BUt a significant political event for Black folks garners scant interest...

Makes you wonder

How anyone can't see this is bigger than Farrakhan is beyond me. Why can't we stay focused? He is not the enemy.

I don't know about anyone else but I can't ignore the fact that prominent black leaders (Jesse Jackson, Sheila Jackson, Al Sharpton etc), tens of thousands of black people are gathered today to address the same issues we speak about here on DU!!

How can this be seen as something bad? This is NOT a republican type event or message. I agree not allowing gays to speak is wrong. However, to use one or two issues to dismiss the entire cause/rally is so much worse.

Throwing the baby out with bath water has never been effective. IMHO

Quoting Maya Angelou and discussing unity and respect for diversity.

This part of the broadcast will be internationally televised!

Alacorn is too good and he is speaking in English lashing Bushco re the 1500 doctors.

.. when I was in Cuba in the mid 90's. He is one of the smartest leaders on the planet.

He's speaking truth to US power about the Cuban Five and US harbored terrorist Luis Posada.


www.freethefive.org


Viva Cuba!

Fidel kissed me on both cheeks at a student rally on GLobalization and Debt in 1985. I didn't wash my face for days}( }( Here's my Prime Minister - PJ.

I missed it and didn't know it was on.

5 + hours.

Maybe they will show the last hour.

If they do, you will miss seeing Al Sharpton, Jesse and Elaine Johnson!

All were excellent.

Elaine Johnson was off the charts.

She is a Gold Star Mom and she told the Black Mother," Do NOT send your Black Sons and Daughters to fight this illegal war!"

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/28/compares-kkk/

Tennessee Rep. Stacey Campfield (R) doesn’t take rejection well. After the Tennessee Legislature’s Black Caucus turned down his two requests for membership, Campfield said:


My understanding is that the KKK doesn’t even ban members by race… has less racist bylaws .

-snip-

Or maybe he's up in Toledo at the other march?

"State Rep. Compares Black Caucus to the KKK, Demands Membership "

He also tried to push through a bill that limits liberal teachings at universities and compared his fight to the Civil Rights movement. The guy is obviously a loon that uses twisted logic.

Are you referring to this march? TOLEDO, Ohio (AP) — A neo-Nazi group will march next week through a Toledo neighborhood that they say has been beset by gang violence that threatens white residents...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1832722

At least someone for able to speak for the gays. At this rate Farrakhan will not be broadcast before c-span cuts it off.

They are wisely including international speakers.

For those of us that have been watching for 5 hours, we just want to hear Rev. Farrakan now. :)

But, these speakers are important!

:woohoo:

:woohoo:

all of America and the world. The symbolism with Cindy and Bushco's falling polls and the imploding 'culture of corruption' is mind blowing.
Amazing numebrs. I'm celebrating this and the ANSWERS rally. I have no time for petty 'divide and rule' arguments. Here coems Farrakhan. Time to run the DVD.

:woohoo:

I am starting to see some ANSWER people on stage, will we get to see Farrakhan broadcast?

We need two more votes to make the greatest page.

they are saying that 50 percent of those that are there today are young!

Fantastic!!!

n/t

is the music - great rally!! Go Erykah!!

Geez I see the X in that face!!

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The handsome one?

He was fabulous.

Is that yes??? Sure looks and sounds like him.

Wow, he is charismatic.

A call to civil disobedience.

Ask the jury!!! Guilty!!! Guilty!! Impeach George Bush!!! Damn. Time for the truth. Thank you my people.

make common cause. It is a shame that there are not 20 million people there proclaiming their humanity.

oh yeah.

Dare to stand up in the Washington Mall and call for his Impeachment!

You woke up the world.

cult of Farrakhan that is occurring. I support the issues but this needs to be a movement of many groups and peoples. There is something Mooneyish about that aspect of it.

Not just the Muslims!

He has a following way beyond his own ranks.

needs that large of a security detail. We are not in the days of Malcolm X, there is no one that wants to harm Louis Farrakhan. Yes, he should have some security but not as much as he has.

but NOI organized the rally and he is the keynote speaker.

That this is a call to unity. We need to take it and there needs to be another major march soon, with many more groups. This needs to keep happening through the 06 election and up until the 08 election. We need to turn this around.

and what no one else is willing to say.

Where can we connect to apply the street heat? Let us make the government respond.

And that's what I support!

Regarding Katrina. SPEAKING TRUTH TO POWER!

That would be around 700,000. I think that's a high estimate.

that means he's possibly at -1%. Can't be true cause there's Armstrong Williams, Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, Jesse Lee Peterson.

:rofl:

I had high contact with the black community in Savannah, GA.

I met thousands of people. From January to November the number of people I met who said they supported * I can count on one hand.

Less than one hand.

I met exactly three African American people who said they supported *.

And I'm pretty sure one of them was kidding.

tune in to C-SPAN - the man is making sense.

http://www.c-span.org

I had tuned out when an in-law stopped in.

This is starting to kill my dial up.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5070266

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