This just on Stephanie Miller on Plame!

She just told how Powell talked to McCain and how he was on the ride to Africa and he told McCain that the only people who saw the memo were Bush and Cheney and it was Cheney who focused on outing her etc. :crazy: Anybody else hear about this?

lying, he KNEW ALREADY That the Senate Intel report had PLANTED those charges against Wilson to help Bush, Rove and Cheney.

McCain was KNOWINGLY part of the coverup every time he pointed the finger of blame at Wilson.

But I'm not sure if this was before Roberts or just recently. I think it could've been just recently that Powell went to McCain.

This is what you're referring to--

"During the meeting, Powell recounted to the senator that he had traveled on air force one with Bush and Cheney, and brought to their attention a classified memorandum about the issue of whether there was indeed a transaction inolving Niger and yellow cake uranium. the document included Ambassador Joe Wilson's involvement and identified his wife, Valerie Plame, as a covert agent. the memorandum further stated that this information was secret. Powell told McCain that he showed that memo only to two people--president and vice president."

(from the OneGoodMove blog linked to through Jane Hamsher's site at http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/ )

Cheney was not on AF1.

the background for her claim.

Lots of people have speculated as to why McCain has seemed so passive in his dealings with these people, who after all approved the "Manchurian candidate" smear against him in 2000...maybe, if this story is correct, he "knew" what scum-sucking traitors these guys knew...and he knew they were going down sooner or later. So all he had to do was smile, take their crap for awhile, not rock too many boats...don't burn his bridges to the GOP right by attacking the Moron King openly...and when it all hit the fan, the GOP would be looking somewhere, anywhere, for a savior...someone who wasn't a traitor, or too connected to them. If so, this would give me back a little of the respect for him I used to have, and that's dribbled away a day, a humiliation, at a time...

Maybe * saw it on AF1 and cheney elsewhere. Plausible?

I just heard it reported on Miller's show. Later in the day try to listen to the archives at stephaniemiller.com What plane was Powell on?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5111410

Rove tactic #46: Circulate inaccurate info in hopes the media will throw the baby out with the bathwater. (See Rathergate)

Here's the info:


Colin Blow
There's a very detailed but almost certainly very fake e-mail making the rounds in Left Blogstan, purporting to reveal Colin Powell's behind-the-scenes cooperation with the Fitzgerald investigation. Crooks and Liars has linked to a blog that posted it. Sean-Paul Kelly at The Agonist also has posted it. Jeralyn Merritt at Talk Left says she got a copy, too.


Which of course is one of the things that gives the "Wall Street" e-mail a patina of credibility. We assume Powell would be happy to administer the estocade to Cheney if he could. And since all of us on the left -- even the animal lovers -- badly want to believe that the beast is down on its knees, ready for the killing blow, it's easy to see why the bogus tale is getting so much attention.

I do wonder, though, about the motives of the person or persons who cooked it up -- just as I wonder about the suspiciously specific rumors floating around about 18 or 22 or some other impressively large number of indictments to come. Maybe people are just getting overexcited, like kids counting and recounting their presents on Christmas Eve. But the paranoid in me thinks that perhaps, just perhaps, the Rovians are up to their old tricks.

Creating exaggerated expectations of a Halloween Massacre could be a way of trying to deflate the actual indictments, assuming Fitzgerald plans to hand some down. Under ordinary circumstances, seeing a Scooter or a Karl do the perp walk would be an enormous story, even for cable news -- big enough to overshadow even a Wal-Mart heiress who cheats on her homework. And that's saying something. But if the media hive has been led to expect real fireworks -- lines of administration officials chained together on the White House lawn; the D.C. Armory converted into a temporary holding pen; a drunken Bush crying on his knees while the words "unindicted co-conspirator" are branded on his butt -- will the swarm sting as hard?
In the end it probably doesn't matter much -- not unless Fitzgerald surprises us all and walks away without filing charges against anybody. The tension of the past few days has already revved the story into the red zone on the RPM gauge. Once Fitzgerald pops the clutch, it's going to be an absolute media feeding frenzy, even if Cheney isn't on the menu.
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