Incredible OP about how Bush is in disfavor with the Ruling Elite>>>>

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In so many ways, Bush has mishandled his presidency but the one for which he is most not to be forgiven is the clumsiness of the way those around him have helped themselves to the spoils. Vice President Dick Cheney's greed, especially, has been palpable and has caused all sorts of obvious problems. Bush has not shared the spoils of war with the European elite which still stays deadly quiet about Iraq, waiting. Then there is Democratic Senator Jay Rockefeller - perhaps the Prince of that dynastic family - has had nothing good to say about Bush since 2003 when he abruptly reversed himself about "WMDs," declaring to Tim Russert, "I was wrong," and then moving into a fairly broad frontal attack which continues today. Rockefeller is an important bellwether.

The damage Bush has done to his natural base of support, his father, his social class is important because with the protection that base affords, no prosecutor, no matter how ambitious, could ever touch him. In fact, Fitzgerald never gets appointed in the first place. But he has, and that means Bush has much less protection that he should have, and it also means someone - something - is protecting Fitzgerald as well. Who or what? Probably no less than the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). In the course of his first attempt to explain why no weapons of mass destruction were found in Iran, Bush flailed and then focused on George Tenet (beloved of Bush Senior for whom he had named a building). Tenet was a good, hard working man, but when he saw what Bush had in mind, he resigned, leaving Bush to fill the vacancy.

The choice of Porter Goss was not received well, not by the CIA, and not by the Senator from West Virginia, Jay Rockefeller. Rockefellers' family is said to have had a hand in the creation of first the FBI and then the CIA, and "W"'s takeover of the agency, and his now-consummated plan to merge it into "Homeland Security" probably irritated Jay Rockefeller even further. Thus, did Bush approach the end of his fifth year in office with his own father not speaking to him and the most powerful political Rockefeller palpably PO'd.

Yet Bush might have saved himself if he'd been true to the convictions about which he told the American people. He claimed to be religious, to be a compassionate conservative, to be for small government and lower taxes. But it is quite possible, in retrospect that George Bush - supposedly a believer in a certain Machiavellian philosophy - started off lying to the "ruled" right away and has never deviated. If so, he should not be surprised now that he has little or no support.

Ordinarily, were a country's ruling elite behind a leader, it might well be assumed that leader would not even be challenged, let alone be in jeopardy of toppling - certainly not over the ridiculous charge of "misleading" the nation about war. In the 20th and now the 21st century the whole job of the president has been to lie - about money creation, about taxes, about the office itself. And what recent president has ever been truthful about leading the nation to war? FDR probably had prior knowledge of Pearl Harbor. President Woodrow Wilson and his "brain" Colonel House worked for years to involve the United States in World War One. It goes back further, of course. Bush did nothing the others did not do. And that is, no doubt, one reason why he has acted so flummoxed as of late, so disbelieving.

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http://www.freemarketnews.com/Analysis/134/2665/2005-10-20.asp?wid=134&nid=2665

and have mores. He's in trouble now.

Plus he's pissed on Poppy's baby the CIA.

Not only as a former employee and director, but today as well. I heard that he is the only former president to still get regular briefings form the CIA (which is every former president's prerogative).

"Thus, did Bush approach the end of his fifth year in office with his own father not speaking to him and the most powerful political Rockefeller palpably PO'd."

What's their background?

But that piece just stunned me. Did you read this part?

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FMNN recently wrote about Judy Miller, the New York Times reporter who is heavily involved in Plamegate and why she may have incarcerated herself for 86 days. The conclusion: To curry favor with the powerful people she considered her bosses, those who wanted a martyr so that they could quickly pass the Senator Richard Lugar's press "Shield" bill - which is actually just one step toward marginalizing those pesky blogs. While there may have been other reasons - maybe somehow she did believe she need to protect certain administration officials - her actions speak to a factionalization of power in Washington that is rarely in evidence so clearly. It is too bad for Miller that she probably picked the wrong side.

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They have some very tasty hypotheses.

Which is actually why I went straight for the "Who are they?" question. I guess I'm just a jaded ol' internet bird, but every time I read an opinion piece nowadays my immediate reaction is, "Who wrote it" so I can better understand the context of the piece.

It's interesting, I'm not getting many "pings" of recognition from there list of reporters and correspondents.

http://www.fmnn.com/analystscorrespondents.asp

http://www.fmnn.com/editorialcontributors.asp

What's with all the stuff about gold and silver on their site? Like this: http://www.fmnn.com/CompSpotlight.asp

When they threw their weight behind the blivet's candidacy in 2000, then rammed him down our throats?

Of course they have to cut him loose now, but why did they throw their lot in with him in the first place? I figured they saw an easily-led puppet, but didn't somebody--SOMEBODY--in the ruling elite know what a lifelong fuckup he was? What a disaster he could turn out to be?

him would be fuckups too.

zalinda

But the Presidency of the United States is a bad place to install a patsy.
They knew he had the drive to get things done they just didn't know that Shrub had his OWN hidden agenda - the advancement of George Bush.

into wars is either disingenuous, or simply off-base. To look back in retrospect, say, at WWII, which is a war that vaulted the United States to greatness, and gave birth to the "Greatest Generation," and try to compare that to lying the country into a war with Iraq... One can be justified, and the other can't. There is no comparison.

Let's say, by way of illustrating the fallacy, that one man has his cat put to sleep because it is sick, and suffering terribly; another man shoots a neighbor's cat that happens to be in his yard, then hacks it up into pieces with a hatchet and feeds it to his dog... same thing, right?

I mean that other guy killed a cat, what're y'all lookin' at me for?

Here's a clue for Mr. Wile (who has *way* too much product on his hair): Roosevelt didn't lie, we really were attacked by the Japanese; and furthermore, Roosevelt didn't lose WWII.

I tend to agree.

These neocon global corporatists have exploited the Supreme Stupid and gotten far more than they could reasonably hope for. The Chimperor is getting to be so extreme in his psychological pathologies that they're getting ready to cut him loose. (I'm virtually certain he'll be martyred in 2008.) The Fecal Fuhrers pathological narcissism has only gotten enormously worse and probably takes far more handling than they can afford. Junior's a tool ... and a fool.

The natural divide between the neocon’s and the old line cons.

The neo cons are parvenue’s in the old line, blue blood, WASP conservative world.

They served as the thinkers, academics, writers and think tank gadfly’s who fleshed out, in dreary policy terms, the ideas that the conservatives wanted to get over the American people. The neocommie’s are aggressive, grabbing, transparently self serving, and mildly capable of deception but in the end they remain obvious.

In contrast the old names of the main line conservative families are low keyed, behind the scenes wielders of power and policy that takes place in private clubs, dinner parties, board room business luncheons, etc. They never want to have their hand in the till, nor on the tiller–publicly.

However, this time around, sensing a media image friendly intellectual light weight the neocons over played their hand when the opportunity arose and they persuaded a man with little or no foreign policy experience to invade another nation. He has been trying to get it right ever since. Even going so far as to declare “Mission Accomplished,” when that was far from the truth, hoping this low level, unsophisticated, Texas-style, regional, cheer leader politics would be anywhere near the caliber required of world leadership and all of the attendant international focus such activities garner. The shrubies over reached and to this day can’t figure out how to sell failed policy.

However, shrub having failed the neoncons- they turned on him liked cornered rats and began denouncing his “botched” invasion of Iwreck early on. The neocons are good at one thing- aligning themselves with power and if shrub is losing power they are dropping shrub.

In the mean time, the old guard main liners have come to suspect shrub as a dupe of the special interest faction with- in his administration and likely feel that he is too deep in the pocket of the useful- but not fully trust worthy neocommie group and their Project for World Domination in this Century. It’s one thing to talk to the help but you don’t invite them to dinner. Hence, the divide between old liners and the chicken hawks- who are fine as consultants but you don’t give them prominent position in your government and wed yourself to their overt and covert agenda.

But shrub, unlike poppy, did just that. He bit the poison apple and followed the inveterate former left wing socialists who can’t resist social engineering, the thought of world domination, one world order under their banner, and an ends justifies the means balls to the wall style of politics. Hence, the enshrinement of KKKarl style stupid, petty, dirty tricks- they were able to poison McCain’s candidacy with fake “push polls”, under the radar leafleting in church parking lot’s, and other snaky, sneaky, tactics designed to elicit a knee jerk reaction from pre-programmed and marinated in hate theofascists in N.C...and it worked... McCain was tainted meat. They tried it on a larger scale, and this time, with the internet, political activism, and the outing of KKKarl style politics of personal destruction the Valerie “Flame” attempt to smear Joe Wilson back fired.

The old time main liners must be appalled by such cheap, dirty, and sordid little political escapades.

The aggressive neocommies are angry simply because it failed and KKKarl and the gang seem to be caught.

Both turned on shrub, but I venture that there was never any love lost between the old money cons and the “help.” Shrub made the mistake of bringing the political equivalent of domestic help into the dinning room, because you know dahling...it’s OK to sleep with nanny, but you never marry her, my dear.

So the shrub ally score card these days:
Old line cons dislike him.
New line chicken hawks loath him for screwing up Iwreck.
And- he is trying to appeal to his remaining base- the theofascist Dobbins style, Fatwell, Robber-son faction, hence, the nomination of Harry-ette.

Just a thought from a talking dog–am I close?

thing- but with some diplomacy. However, he say's the administration has been boxed in.

Gergin say's shrub should follow Raygun and clean house. Problem- shrub can't govern at all- he needs the @ss hats to run this wagon till the wheels come off.