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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:06 PM
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Another thing i don't understand. What is the "evidence" against Syria
and the assassination of H? Just saying "t couldn't have happened without the knowledge of Syrian intel" is not enough. It can also be said that Abu Gharib could not have happened without the knowledge of American intel. Clue me in please.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:08 PM
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1. Same Silly Shit As With Iraq
They have NO evidence.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:10 PM
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2. evidence? evidence ? bushco don't need evidence !
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:10 PM
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3. The evidence is made up shit.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:11 PM
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4. Faith based?..
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:12 PM
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5. I have been following this and
I have no real clue.

Today they issued a "report" naming Assad's brother and brother-in-law as having some "knowledge"- whatever that is.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:12 PM
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6. What they have is not called "evidence"
It is called "oil."

You know what that means.

Get ready again...sigh...
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:14 PM
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7. Evidence? We don't need no stinking evidence?
As long as Jill and Joe taxpayer stay glued to the TV and refuse to consider perhaps bad things are happening to the Beav! Well, we're screwed.
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:21 PM
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8. It's too complicated to understand and if they told us it might 'out'
some CIA personnel. Sooo we just have to trust George on this one.

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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:22 PM
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9. They've interviewed 400 people.
That's their evidence.

Plus inference.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:23 PM
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10. The real question is
Is Joe Sixpack going to give a rat's ass about some dead rich Lebanese president?

But modern marketing is pretty amazing nowadays. Soon Hariri will be a household name, and soon American boys will be breathing their last breaths in his honor...
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:52 PM
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11. A bogus report written by your partners in crime. n.t
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:58 PM
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13. I keep hearing about this "report"
But who the frick has written the report?? Because no "news" agency has explained this to me, I can only conclude agreement with your post :hi:
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:03 PM
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14. Agreed. I haven't heard the details about said "report"
:hi:

Maybe it's like the phrase, "they say" ?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:55 PM
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23. Well, "they" are some scary MOFO's
From the beginning this entire thing has had the odor of bush*inc.

I, like you, want to know where this "report" comes from. And how frickin scary is it that the UN is buying into it??!! Hasn't anyone given them the memo that anything that may have been touched by the US gov at this point in time may be poison??
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 12:09 PM
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24. German prosecutor Detlev Mehlis authored the report
"Mehlis was leading the fight against organised crime in his native Berlin when United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan turned to him five months ago to head the international investigation into the killing.

Mehlis, 55, has long experience of investigating terrorist and complex international crimes including the 1986 bombing of a Berlin discotheque frequented by U.S. soldiers."

http://today.reuters.com/News/CrisesArticle.aspx?storyId=L17733606

which you can read here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/21_10_05_mehlisreport.pdf
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:55 PM
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12. You friggin commie...
if dear leader says there is evidence, then it is so! :rofl:
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:06 PM
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15. This was a UN report...
UNITED NATIONS (AFP) - Chief UN investigator Detlev Mehlis was embroiled in a raging controversy over why he left out the names of key Syrian suspects from his final report on the murder of Lebanon's ex-premier Rafiq Hariri.

Mehlis, who led a four-month UN probe into the massive bomb blast that killed Hariri and 20 others in Beirut in February, handed over his report to UN chief Kofi Annan on Thursday.

The report was also sent to the 15 members of the UN Security Council and the Lebanese government before being made public.

The document cited "converging evidence" of Syrian and Lebanese involvement and accused Damascus of blocking and misleading the investigation.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051021/wl_mideast_afp/unlebanonsyriareport_051021230429
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:06 PM
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16. Interviews, phone taps
The vehicle used in the attack, a white Mitsubishi Canter stolen in Japan, was driven into Lebanon from Syria by a Syrian Army officer days before the assassination. It was concealed at the Hammana Syrian military base where it was loaded with 1,000 kg of explosives.

Intercepted telephone conversations give some measure of the mood among Syrians and their Lebanese allies as they plotted Hariri’s downfall and eventual removal.

“We are going to send him on a trip. Bye, bye Hariri,” said Mustafa Hamdan, the former head of Lebanon’s Presidential Guard, who was arrested earlier this year. Another, identified as “X” says: “May he (Hariri) rot in hell.”

Various witnesses report that Mr al-Assad threatened to “break Lebanon over Hariri’s head” in an angry encounter before the decision was taken to assassinate him. By far the most serious implications in the report are allegations by a former Syrian intelligence agent that General Assef Shawkat, the head of Syrian military intelligence and the President’s brother-in-law, and Colonel Maher al-Assad, the President’s brother and commander of the elite presidential guard brigade conspired directly in the assassination.
...
The report alleges that a key suspect who was in contact with Lebanese and Syrian security officers accused of plotting the assassination called Mr Lahoud (President of Lebanon, ally of Syria)’s mobile telephone just seven minutes before the bomb attack that killed Mr Hariri.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,251-1837470,00.html


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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:11 PM
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17. Evidence ala the Judith Miller/Chalabi connections. Foolproof. (n/t)
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:53 PM
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18. Until recently, NOTHING happened in Lebanon without the Syrians
being behind, in front of, or in the middle of it. They did it. Don't delude yourselves into thinking the Syrians are nice people.

And the fact that they're on bushyboy's shitlist doesn't make them any better than the murderous scumbags they are. Hussein wasn't the only monster over there who poison-gassed his own people. Assad did it too, and worse.

The enemy of our enemy is not, in this case our friend. That doesn't mean we have any right to interfere with their intenal affairs or or invade or bomb them, but that's no reason to make excuses for them.

Redstone
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:03 PM
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19. Hussein gassed his own people.
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 10:07 PM by Disturbed
Please provide the proof. I am no fan of Saddam's but an accusation is not proof of evidence.

US Army War College: NO PROOF SADDAM GASSED THE KURDS!
Over 100 megs of official records and photos detailing government lies to We The People, this website is the reincarnation of the original Rancho Runamukka.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/helms.html
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:14 PM
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21. Sory, but I'll trust my sources more than something called
"Rancho Runamukka," whatever that is.

Redstone
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:08 PM
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20. You're right...
of course, at least with Saddam, the US could have used the purchase orders for the gas we sold him as evidence, it is just so hard to trust anything they say anymore...it's like that boy who cried wolf thing, lying bastards have made me skeptical of everything!
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:53 PM
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22. Asking for evidence is not making excuses. Pardon. n/t
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 12:11 PM
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25. a bunch of neocon handwaving
so there!
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:20 PM
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26. kick nm
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