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rhino47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 08:36 AM
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This is enough to make you sick .*freeper alert*
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1507604/posts

Ad Guru Resigns Over Comments About Women
Tampa Tribune ^ | October 23, 2005 | JILL LAWLESS , AP


Posted on 10/23/2005 2:48:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife


LONDON (AP) -- One of the world's most flamboyant advertising gurus has left his job after reportedly telling an audience that women made poor executives because motherhood made them "wimp out."

Marketing giant WPP Group PLC said Friday it had accepted the resignation of Neil French - a one-time debt collector, trainee matador and rock-band agent who served as the group's worldwide creative director. The firm, which is based in London and New York, told Britain's Press Association news agency that French had offered his resignation, and it had been accepted. WPP could not immediately be reached for comment by The Associated Press.
French made the contentious remarks during an industry discussion in Toronto on Oct. 6. According to a report in the city's Globe and Mail newspaper, French said women did not make it to the top because "they're crap."
Nancy Vonk, a Toronto-based creative director at WPP subsidiary Ogilvy & Mather who attended the event, said French described women as "a group that will inevitably wimp out and go 'suckle something.'"
he comments sparked outrage among many women in the advertising industry.
Vonk wrote on the advertising industry Web site http://www.ihaveanidea.org - sponsor of the Oct. 6 event - that "my jaded jaw hit the floor" at French's comments.
"If our greatest leaders are busy quietly persuading girls they're just not cut out for this gig, how far is this group going to get - the brave ones who soldier on in spite of the discouragement?" she wrote.
British-born French, 61, known for his ever-present cigar, worked as a debt collector, trained as a matador and was agent to the heavy metal band Judas Priest before going into advertising.
He was among a generation of innovative admen - including future film director Ridley Scott and brothers Maurice and Charles Saatchi - who made a mark on British advertising in the 1970s and 80s.
Many of French's print ads are considered classics. One of the most famous shows a bottle of Chivas Regal whisky without a label, and the tag line, "If you don't recognize it, you're probably not ready for it."
Singapore-based French - who during the Toronto event was served drinks onstage by a woman in a French maid's uniform - was unrepentant.
In an interview with the Globe and Mail published Friday, French said there were few female creative directors "because you can't commit yourself to the job."
"You can't be a great creative director and have a baby and keep spending time off every time your kids are ill," he was quoted as saying.



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If that is not enough to make you sick here are the freetards responses.

To: Cincinatus' Wife
Truth is non-judgemental. It insults no one.



6 posted on 10/23/2005 2:56:08 AM PDT by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Being honest is perceived by liberals as an insult. That's why political correctness was invented: to make sure no subject is discussed that the Left doesn't want a discussion about and if a subject is going to be discussed, that the resultant discussion takes place on the Left's terms. As censorship, its certainly worked wonders in making sure people keep their thoughts to themselves.

("Denny Crane: Gun Control? For Communists. She's a liberal. Can't hunt.")


8 posted on 10/23/2005 2:59:18 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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e could always claim to be gay and explain that that is why he does not like women. He should clarify his statements, saying something like, "Hetero women are useless 'breeders' and any woman executive who is pregnant should get an abortion first thing in the morning and be back to work that afternoon." If he were to say these things, the politically correct leftists would proclaim him a hero. He would get his job back, probably with a pay raise, and the media would proclaim him to be a "women's rights expert."



14 posted on 10/23/2005 4:56:55 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"You can't be a great creative director and have a baby and keep spending time off every time your kids are ill," he was quoted as saying.
30 years ago, this would be so apparent that it wouldn't even be questioned. Our social conditioning (programming) is continuing very well......


15 posted on 10/23/2005 5:02:41 AM PDT by Decepticon (The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day (NRA)
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 08:41 AM
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1. There will always be idiots
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rhino47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 08:47 AM
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2. And they usually have an R after their name. n/t
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 08:58 AM
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6. Touche!
very funny. and so true.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 08:47 AM
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3. Some Truth To It
but he phrased it in a very insulting way. It isn't what you say, it's how you say it

"It is more challenging for a woman to be a good executive because women usually take most of the responsibilities for raising families. Women become more focused on these duties and less on business duties."
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 08:52 AM
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5. I'm sure there is truth to some of it
but there are so many other things to consider. Like, not all women have chldren.

Also, in a career of, say, 40 years the child raising years represent maybe 10 or 15 years. We have careers before kids, and then careers after kids.

And... if you pay a woman enough, she can afford to be creative AND raise kids.

The man sounds like a prick.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 08:49 AM
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4. Ah..this is what these little white male supremacists are all about
....which is protecting their "god-given" right to hold the best jobs and control everyone else.

Perhaps the response to THEM should be that naturally gays are more talented and less expensive executives - after all, since Freepers demand that gays be vilified as immoral and their relationships be considered as legally nonexistent, they naturally can devote much more time to being creative and innovative in their careers...much moreso than these committed moral traditional family-headed men who have to take time off work for family vacations and to pick up their children. And since gays are obviously naturally more creative than hetero white males, who are too regimented in social control to develop things of interest or consider new ideas, it would be natural for companies to prefer hiring gays. Gays don't cost a company extra money for additional health care benefits or lose work time for relationships that don't exist - they don't have to get trophy wives to haul around to soirees to impress other str8s with their trophy wives. . .

Maybe its time the freepers admit that legislation be passed which grants gays preference in employment because they are naturally more capable of being dedicated to their jobs.

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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 09:30 AM
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8. Hurrah, kevinbgoode...
...that's taking the Freepies' argument to *their* logical conclusion.

I dare someone to post this superlative argument "ovah there...."
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rhino47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 09:44 AM
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9. Hiya Kevinbgoode Welcome to DU
:hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:

A very good point indeed.It is an argument used to suppress.So insecure in their own abilities they view equal rights as a threat.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 09:26 AM
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7. Creative work can only occur between 9-5 Mthru Fri. AT THE OFFICE.
We all know that!
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