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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:03 PM
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IF Bush is named an "unindicted co-conspirator," how can we dump his ass?
It looks like Scooter "Toady" Libby and Karl "Smirko's Brain" Rove are toast. By extension Sneering Dick Cheney may soon be out of a job -- whether he's named an unindicted co-conspirator or not. And, no thanks to WHIG, a bunch more neocon scum may soon be out of there.



However, one big turd may remain occupying 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, the crazy moron himself, Baby Doc Bush -- even if he's named "unindicted co-conspirator." My reasoning is, if things go as they have for the past five years, Corporate McPravda will largely back the BFEE front-man stooge Bush and heap blame on the expendable top fall-guy Cheney. Congress, populated largely by sold-out turds they are, will try to do likewise. Of course, the Federalist Society packed judiciary will try support their head fascist, Boosh.

Here's what the BFEE is staring at:



THE COMING HURRICANE FITZGERALD...

Wherein we submit our entry in the "guess how many indictments" pool.


by thepen

http://www.opednews.com

As always we feature the action link first, this one to call for the impeachment of George Bush
http://www.millionphonemarch.com/impeach.htm

There is a storm of historic proportions headed for the United States, one that will make Hurricane Wilma (also en route) look like a small splash in the pond by comparison. It's been building and gathering strength in the increasingly hot waters of the Special Counsel's office for almost two years, and in a matter of days it may lay waste to the entire political infrastructure of Washington, D.C., from one end to the other.

We start with the understanding that the crime of the century (so far) has taken place in Iraq. Lies and forged evidence duped the American people into waging preemptive war against a country that posed no threat to us -- all for the cynical and greedy purpose of enriching a handful of the Bush administration's closest cronies. In the process, over 100,000 people have been senselessly murdered and maimed, including many thousands of our own service people. Hundreds of billions of dollars have been looted from the treasuries of two countries, mostly our own. Even worse, many believe that the attack of 9/11 was not only foreseen by the inner circle of our government, but that orders for a deliberate "stand-down" allowed it to occur. Why? So that the horrific resulting tragedy would justify all that followed.

The magnitude of these crimes is so monumental that their perpetrators were obsessed with suppressing any evidence of it. They ruthlessly smeared all critics, purging and intimidating any dissenting voices. For them the treasonous acts of exposing (and thereby destroying) one of our most critical intelligence assets (a front company secretly working to prevent the spread of WMD), were just another day's collateral damage. Having lied successfully for so long, having corrupted their mainstream corporate media lap dogs, and having made eunuchs of many in the "opposition" party, they considered themselves unassailable. Such arrogance has seldom been equaled.

SNIP...

For the criminal purposes of the Bush administration, Patrick Fitzgerald is their worst nightmare come true. He is a career prosecutor with a reputation for being not only "frighteningly" brilliant but fearless, and with a driving passion for determining the truth, their most mortal enemy. Indeed, the fastest way to get Fitzgerald’s fur up is to try to lie to him as a witness. See, he's a workaholic already, and liars just make him work harder. And if you've committed a federal crime like maybe . . . oh gee, maybe like perjury . . . says an old attorney friend, "Pat Fitzgerald's gonna get ya." Oh, and did we mention that he always goes for the person at the top of the conspiracy?

CONTINUED...

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_thepen_051022_the_coming_hurricane.htm



One big spark of hope. Remember when journalists' lawyers were hoping to prevent Judy etc from testifying in the case? Fitzgerald showed a panel of judges the evidence he had, and they agreed instantly that there had been terrible damage to the national security of the United States. Gee. It must be something for Reaganite type judges to side with the guy going after the occupants of the monkey house. What could they have seen? In the Valerie Plame-WMD-Iraq War hoax, one word jumps to mind: Treason.

A couple of questions:

What can we do about it?

What can we do to make certain Bush gets the boot?

How do you plan to to help?


Personally: I'll continue to spread the word about how important this case is for our nation. Second, I make certain every person I can reach in a position of power learns how I feel. Third, make certain the Truth gets out and that you won't take it lying down.

Thanks to DU, I'm not alone.

BTB: Our friends at "millionphonemarch" have a nice idea or two:

http://www.millionphonemarch.com/impeach.htm
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:09 PM
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1. kick nm
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 11:39 AM
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23. Thanks, texpatriot2004! Guess who helped create the forged Niger docs?
HADLEY!

Things are getting hot:



HADLEY NAMED. La Repubblica has a dynamite series this week on the origin of the yellowcake forgeries. Laura Rozen reports:
With Patrick Fitzgerald widely expected to announce indictments in the CIA leaks investigation, questions are again being raised about the murky matter that first led to the appointment of the special counsel: namely, how the Bush White House came into possession of discredited Italian intelligence reports claiming that Iraq sought uranium "yellowcake" from Niger.
The key documents supposedly proving the Iraqi attempt turned out to be crude forgeries on official stationery stolen from the African nation's Rome embassy. Among the most tantalizing aspects of the debate over the Iraq War is the origin of those fake documents and the role of the Italian intelligence services in disseminating them.

In an explosive series of articles appearing this week in the Italian newspaper La Repubblica, investigative reporters Carlo Bonini and Giuseppe d'Avanzo reveal how Niccolo Pollari, chief of Italy's military intelligence service, known as SISMI, brought the Niger yellowcake story directly to the White House after his insistent overtures had been rejected by the Central Intelligence Agency in 2001 and 2002.

Today's exclusive report in La Repubblica reveals that Pollari met secretly in Washington on September 9, 2002, with then–Deputy National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley. Their secret meeting came at a critical moment in the White House campaign to convince Congress and the American public that war in Iraq was necessary to prevent Saddam Hussein from developing nuclear weapons.

The La Repubblica article quotes a Bush administration official saying, "I can confirm that on September 9, 2002, general Nicolo Pollari met Stephen Hadley."

Laura will have more on this story later today.
--The Editors

Posted at 11:19 AM

SOURCE:
http://www.prospect.org/weblog/archives/2005/10/index.html#008117



Much obliged for the kick. Sorry so late in getting back. I had to, uh, reprimer the Jeep! Yeah, that's it. I was reprimering the Jeep!
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SupplyConcerns Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:10 PM
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2. Re: the "guess how many indictments poll"
I had a dream last night in which news had just come out that EIGHTY-NINE indictments were handed down. I was telling people I knew who hadn't heard the new yet, and everyone was like, "wow... this is going to mean a total change in our government". It was a really vivid dream, and needless to say, waking up was somewhat disapointing, at least until I realized that, ten indictments or eighty-nine, the situation is well out of hand for Bush.

And thus ends my first "I had a really weird dream last night" DU post.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 02:44 PM
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16. That's not a weird dream!
That's bliss!!

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 11:47 AM
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24. 89! That may not be enough, there's so much treason going on.
Great dream, yours. And you're absolutely correct, SupplyConcerns!

Young Fitzpatrick has a most difficult balancing act: The fate of the nation and his obligation to uphold the Contitution. The guy must find how to spell out how these so-and-sos outted a CIA NOC in order to keep the lid on their phony rush to war in a way that clears them from government. The problem is, there are so many who deserve jail cells for eterninty -- from Steno Judy and the rest of the pro-war media whores to the turds in Congress who knew Bush was lying and went along with him to the traitors occupying the Monkey House.

We need to suppport Fitzpatrick and those in government who believe the rule of law applies to everyone.

BTW: Please keep posting your dreams. They're the stuff the world gets made from!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:13 PM
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3. 2006 house and senate elections
one of them has to go democratic. bush will not be replaced
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:26 PM
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4. Call me an eternal optimist...
I'm not so sure.


Peace.
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:44 PM
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8. I think 2006....
Edited on Sun Oct-23-05 12:45 PM by William Seger
... could be shaping up as a referendum on impeachment. Yes, it could happen. :bounce:
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:19 AM
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21. I'll vote for any Dem who promises to CHIMPEACH!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 11:49 AM
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25. From your keypad to the Great Spirit's to-do list.
And may both Houses be filled with Real Democrats who are sore pissed at the state of affairs and are ready, willing and able to do what needs to be done -- starting with Chimpeachment, if it hasn't already been done; and then the complete top-to-bottom investigation and clearing out of the BFEE and their assorted treasons.
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:36 PM
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5. kick and recommend
We should get the DU Activist Corp on this ASAP
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 11:52 AM
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26. Thanks, Tuesday_Morning!
I think I got kicked out of that club, for, um, professional reasons, but if I can be of help, I'm at your service.

Regarding the message, I've a few ideas:

Government requires the Truth.

Why did Bush lie our nation into war?

Why did he sacrifice the national security in order to cover-up his lies?

Who in Congress will stand up and investigate?

Thanks for making your voice heard, Tuesday_Morning! You are what a Democracy is all about.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:41 PM
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6. I don't think the corporate media could spin this.
If bush didn't know, he's an idiot. If he did know, he's a crook.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:44 PM
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7. yes to both
I honestly wonder if his own party won't move to have him impeached.
They badly need a " fall guy" .
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:52 PM
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9. They certainly would, to save their own butts
After all, that's why they followed him down the radical neocon path in the first place.
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pearl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 01:12 PM
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11. My Suggestion
Which requires some activism.
First, identify at least 16 moderate repubs in the house
who we can "flip" politically. example repubs in blue states
or repubs in blue parts of red states. Storm their phones
their email etc. etc. with a message.

Its time to choose between your party and your country.

Do you approve of normalizing treason?
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 01:41 PM
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14. Good idea
... but I don't think many would actually flip just on principle -- not if they think their "base" wouldn't buy into it. The ones who actually value principles have already flipped, and there's apparently not very many of them. The only thing that will do the trick is realizing that the electorate ain't buyin' that shit no more.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 02:46 PM
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17. John Duncan Jr.
Edited on Sun Oct-23-05 02:47 PM by Clark2008
Republican in a red state; however, he voted against the treasonous war and against additional funding for the treasonous war.

He is a paelo-conservative who thinks we should be saving instead of spending like drunken sailor on leave in Hookerville.

Edited to add: He's a congressman from the Second District in Tennessee.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 01:10 PM
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10. That is exactly my take
Some rethugs are already distancing themselves from bush*, and if his administration is gutted, I fully expect that they will all turn of him. We, of course, cannot let them out of their blind support for him that easy. We'll let them help us impeach them, but then we must forever remind the voters how their sick allegiance to him & his agenda has hurt this country & the world.
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pearl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 01:17 PM
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12. Absolutely
What filth they are. :puke:
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 01:20 PM
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13. Kinda like de-Nazification ?
There are a number I would NEVER allow back into politices. Cheney is one of em.
DeLay is another but no need to stop here. I'd take out Lamar Smith and Coburn too.

Won't miss Kay Bailey Hutchenson either. Weasels, all.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 08:54 PM
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18. I hadn't thought of it like that, but it does sound about right
Every Senator, Congress-critter, and Beltway talking head who busied themselves with bush*boot-licking & selling the neo-con agenda should be treated like the accomplices to a crime that they are!!!

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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 06:28 AM
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19. Its a classic hubris situation
and there ought to be consequences for the ones who benefited from riding on the band wagon - until the wheels came off. Lets hold them accountable.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:03 PM
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27. Bush knew. That makes him more than a crook. Bush is a traitor.
Valerie Plame and her colleagues at Brewster Jennings & Associates and their network and contacts around the world worked to fight the spread of nuclear weapons. In allowing her to be outted (just to get at her hubby, Amb. Joseph Wilson, a guy who said Bush lied out loud), Bush reduced the national security of the United States. That's treason.



Why Patrick Fitzgerald Gets It

By Larry Johnson

Federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald understands very well that something beyond a crime was committed when Karl Rove, Scooter Libby, and other White House operatives spread the name of undercover CIA officer, Valerie Plame, around Washington as part of a coordinated effort to discredit her husband, Ambassador Joe Wilson. Someone needs to alert Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen that he is a nitwit and moron for trying to advance White House supplied talking points that no real crime occurred.

SNIP...

Other mental midgets like Cohen, such as Victoria Toensing, continue to insist that no crime could have been committed because Valerie Plame, "worked at a desk job". Newsflash for these so-called Washington insiders who have proven they know nothing about the intelligence community--at least 40% of the people working at CIA Headquarters are working undercover. Just because they may physically go to the CIA building in McLean, Virginia everyday does not mean that their relationship with the CIA is acknowledged.

During my four years of sitting at a desk at CIA I was undercover. My position with the CIA was not even known by my own parents. Only my wife was privy to that secret. Many of the undercover folks still working at CIA are at headquarters on a temporary basis. Some travel overseas on temporary assignments that last less than a month. Others await a semi-permanent posting for a two or three year stint overseas.

The point that Cohen and the other White House hacks have missed is that protecting the identities of intelligence officers, whether they are working under official or non-official cover, is part of national defense. To compromise these identities is to commit an act of treason.

Patrick Fitzgerald understands that he must prosecute within the confines of the law. However, he also understands that what was done to the wife of Ambassador Joe Wilson was more than a rough game of inside the beltway hardball. Karl Rove told Chris Matthews that "Wilson's wife is fair game". Not only was she an unfair target, but in going after her the White House political crew unwittingly exposed several intelligence assets and caused the loss of intelligence assets overseas.

CONTINUED...

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/1757



Bush is a liar.
Bush is a crook.
Bush is a mass murderer.
Bush is a war criminal.
Bush is a traitor.



Word.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 02:43 PM
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15. Spreading the word!
What a difference a year makes. Last summer, when we were doing intensive research here on all things Plame, there were many close friends and relatives who were not too familiar with the situation, and had no idea who the characters involved were. Now, everyone knows the situation, Valerie Plame, Karl Rove, Scooter Libby, Judy Miller and Patrick Fitzgerald are all well known names, and everyone seems to agree that something is rotten.

Spreading the truth does make a difference!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 06:59 AM
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20. My father's favorite president
was LBJ. He used to tell me that LBJ was potentially greater than FDR, in part because FDR had carved out the foundation LBJ could build upon, but even more because LBJ was comfortable around the poor people he wanted to help. He said FDR was isolated by his position, and cared for the poor in theory, but that he was a curious man who was uncomfortable around anyone who was not rich or powerful.

My father could do a heck of an LBJ impersonation. And he used to tell me that two things really defined LBJ's power as a politician. The first was how, around friends, he invaded peoples' personal space. LBJ was famous for getting face-to-face with people he wanted to convince to follow his lead. He would wrap his arms around a congressman's shoulder, or jab a senator repeatedly in the chest.

But my father's favorite was LBJ's infamous statement about an enemy: "I want that fucker's balls in my hand!" Those close to LBJ heard that line when he was preparing to attack an opponent.

The democratic leadership is unfortunately becoming isolated from the grass roots membership of our party. They seem uncomfortable to be in the space that we inhabit. But they have an opportunity to build a room for all of us to share, and to place it on top of the foundation that Fitzgerald has constructed for America.

Bush may not be listed as an unindicted co-conspirator, but he can not escape being convicted in the public's perception when the facts that DUers have known for two years become known to the general population. And those in the House and Senate need not sit like bumps on a log in their offices: they can begin to wrap their arms around this story, and jab the administration in the chest. And they have Bush's balls in their hand right now -- and they can put the squeeze on in order to stop this God-awful war. Any democratic official who does not is, in my opinion, our enemy.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:42 PM
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28. That, H20, deseves a new thread all it's own.
We've been nice. We've bitten our tongues. Look where it's gotten us.

We all need to be the LBJ's, the Rosa Parks, and the change we have been waiting on. Time to say: No More. The dem leaders we have now, have lead us into complacency. We can't afford another moment of that.

We've got their balls in our hands, Let the Big Squeeze Begin!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:09 PM
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29. Agreed on both o' ya: Operation BIG SQUEEZE.
Democrats used to be able to think big. Until that spirit returns, we need to squeeze hard. Now's the time to get busy.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:14 PM
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30. We've got the whole world in our hands: sing along
We've the neo-con's balls in our hands
We've the neo-con's balls in our hands
We've the neo-con's balls in our hands

Its time for OPERATION BIG SQUEEZE!

*************

Octafish, Thanks. You ROCK.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:48 AM
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22. Thing is, every single corrupt criminal act was the product of Bush policy
It was Bush policy that led to the formation of the OSP and WHIG. It was Bush policy that allowed for "doing whatever it takes" (lying, manipulating, deceiving, concealing) to institute pre-emptive, aggressive warring. It was Bush policy that led to Gonzales memorializing approval of torture techniques, which breached both national and international laws prohibiting such inhumane treatment. It was Bush policy that led to the sacrifice of national security in order to conceal the truth about WMDs.

He and his policies are the core of all subsequent illegal behavior.
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