REUTERS: Indictments Mon or Tues

Its a big story from the MM BUT they do minimize the potential

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyID=2005-10-23T161616Z_01_MOR119416_RTRUKOC_0_US-BUSH-LEAK.xml
"WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald appears to be laying the groundwork for indictments this week over the outing of a covert CIA operative, including possible charges of perjury and obstruction of justice, lawyers involved in case said on Sunday.

Top administration officials are expected to learn from Fitzgerald as early as Monday whether they will face charges as the prosecutor winds up his nearly two-year investigation, the lawyers said.

Fitzgerald could convene the grand jury as early as Tuesday to lay out a final summary of the case and ask for approval of possible indictments, legal sources said. The grand jury hearing the CIA leak case normally meets on Wednesdays and is scheduled to expire on Friday unless Fitzgerald extends it.

While Fitzgerald could still charge administration officials with knowingly revealing Plame's identity, the lawyers said he appeared more likely to seek charges for easier-to-prove crimes such as making false statements, obstruction of justice and disclosing classified information."

http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/

she is also a attorney.

Of course the MM is gonna spin it as no big deal

-- why did we invade Iraq in the first place?

-- how much of the Iraq-rational is true and how much was "sexed up"?

-- what didn't bush* know, when didn't he know it and why didn't he know it?

-- how much of what we are hearing out of the White House regarding Syria and Iran is true and how much is spin?

If there are indictments, there will absolutely be perjury and obstruction charges. That's certain.

Beyond that is speculation, and not as easy to prove. Reuters is probably holding back a bit because those charges are not as cut and dried as the obvious perjury.

the unexpected. Fitzgerald is going to do what he believes is right. I think that the conspiracy and espionage issues will be included in the indictments.

please explain..haven't heard that suggested before

the perjury charges, because he already has what he needs on the still more serious charges.

Also, there seems to have been so much serious crime the neocons have been involved in, much, if not all of it interconnected, I will not be at all surprised if, pursuant to the broad mandate given to him by the Attorney General, he extends his term, as Special Prosecutor.

After all, their m.o. in everything has not been to pussyfoot on the margins, but to dive in head first, making for the bulls-eye (usually a pot of gold), with all the long-term foresight (NOT) of their very own Big Business.

While Fitzgerald could still charge administration officials with knowingly revealing Plame's identity, the lawyers said he appeared more likely to seek charges for easier-to-prove crimes such as making false statements, obstruction of justice and disclosing classified information."

I am not struck with that notion that Mr. Fitzgerald will take the easiest road, for some reason.

My guess is as good as any, but I hope it is not wishful thinking.

Who could well be the lawyers who accompanied their clients to testify before the GJ....

Bottom line, we know nothing yet!! We will know when they know. Fitzgerald has made a very good living thus far by not tipping his hand, no matter how many anonymous sources, talking inside baseball, try to spin this whole business.

The ordinary rule is that a Grand Jury witness may not have a lawyer present with him/her when appearing before the GJ. The lawyer may be outside the room and the witness may request permission to consult with his/her attorney before answering a question.

some defense lawyer has talked to them, and the story takes the reader in the other direction--Everyone is waiting; nobody knows.

...there is nothing to say that more serious charges can't be brought later on (as long as the evidence is there). A lot has been happening in the case lately. He might just want to put something on the table as a strategic manuever. Throwing down the gauntlet may be what it takes to make a breakthrough in another direction.

Stupid hurricane.

I hope the worst thing the hurricane does is keep you from watching the news for a while.
:hug:

...first part, in which the reporter is being very cautious? Later, he gives evidence of an expanded probe, and concludes with how bad this could be for the Bush regime.

2. Nobody's talking. And he has to rely on unidentified "lawyers" involved in the case, and outside lawyer pundits. My feeling about it was: a cauldron about to boil over (with the reporter a bit worried about getting scalded?--by lying defense lawyers? rumors? 'friendly fire'?) But that may just be me.

thats for some people!!!

come back and tell me IF ya don't smile

Peace.

I wouldn't lump them with the rest of the korporate media.

It only suggests that the subjects in question may learn whether they will face possible charges.

Nothing new here.

I want a cool B-day present!!!:evilgrin: :party: :party:

That is if there are lots of charges and lots of chargees to vote on.

Here's to Scorpios (truth seekers of the Zodiac).

:toast:

Oct. 25th is a killer B-day. Daylight savings gives you an extra hour of sleep during the week, the leaves are turning, you get to throw a Halloween/ B-day party.....

And you are a Scorpio (Libra cusp)..

:party: :toast: :party: :toast:





The Wellstone B-day sucked.... but let's hope this one is THE BEST EVER!!!

go to hooters.

But as I always say, the more the merrier. But in all seriousness, lets hope the inditements come down. And lets hope they are big, natural charges.

Fitzgerald has made his list, now he's checking it twice.

Seriously, I think Fitz is making sure all the i's are dotted and t's are crossed.

Hope you have more than one reason to celebrate. :D

Which is good.

I'm glad the general public is hungering for this kind of news instead of TomKat or what-the-fuck-ever.

charges I'll assume it's because that's the best case that could be built. If he issues no indictments at all, I'll assume it's because indictments are not warranted.

I really hope we don't see alot of "he's a Bush mole!" crap around here if the guy doesn't go for the DU brass ring.

...to be "mainstream"!! Please call them what they are, the Corporate Media.

NGU.

how about CAEM
Corporat And Entertainment Media

I only watch the wheather channel and ooops they have manmade hurricaines now ..scalar haarp

so I only watch ..waht do I watch..??

This is a war an info war. battle for your heart and mind

Pray for the innocents..

:kick: :kick: :kick:

is that said lawyers are Rove's and Libby's. Early on, any info available came from Luskin, Rove's lawyer, quoted by name. Then it morphed into the anonymous lawyer as a source. No info seems to have come from Fitzgerald.

So I take this stuff with a biiiiiiig grain of salt.

between a repuke sex scandal and a dem one

well now we understand
s.. to repukes= war
s.. to dems =

It's beginning to look a lot like Fitzmas
Everywhere you go.
Who's gonna do five-or-ten?
We're thinking once again
Of handcuffs and of orange jumpsuits aglow.
It's beginning to look a lot like Fitzmas
Indictments on every score
But the prettiest sight to see
Is the scowl on Darth Cheney
At the slammer's front door.

A warrant or writ, a subpoena that fits
Is the wish of Barney and Ben;
The thought of Turdblossom hung up like a possum
Is the hope of Janice and Jen;
And Mom and Dad can hardly wait for court to start again.

It's beginning to look a lot like Fitzmas
Everywhere you go.
There's an defendant who doesn't want to tell;
One in the White House as well --
The felony kind that doesn't mind the law!
It's beginning to look a lot like Fitzmas
Soon the bells will start
And the thing that will make them ring
Is the indictment that we sing,
Right within our hearts!

crispini

Merry Fitzmas! :hi:

EOM

"Today, in one of the most difficult decisions of my presidency, I accepted the resignations of twenty-two of my closest associates in the White House, twenty-two of the finest public servants it has been my privilege to know."

:hi:

if anything it definitely rules out Monday to report them...and makes Tuesday very unlikely as well.

:evilgrin:

I dont mean to be callous but that's my best guess.

Commented on Meet the Press Sunday that this allegation of perjury is a technicality and doesn't merit indictment. She is totally contradicting statements she made during Clinton's impeachment. The Young Turks are ranting on the hypocrites of the Republican Party right now. You can listen live if you go online to http://www.youngturk.com/.

Reuters needs to marginalize this story even more.

Again it would be very interesting if somehow in the broadening course of this investigation, a slush fund of hush money was exposed. It would trail thru dozens of middle people in this thoroughly corrupt operation and perhaps lead us back to many larger mysteries including 9/11. Tracing the money in Watergate was key to putting the puzzle together. These players are extremely arrogant. I am sure they have left a money trail for all the bit players.

Cackle, cackle!!!!!


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IT finally occurs to me where I heard the name Wormser before, at least a close approximation. The very excellent and ,sadly, now deceased actor Jon Vernon played the inimitable Dean Wormer in Animal House, circa 1979. Somebody has to pick up this ball and run with it.
Its great material for Bartcop and I think I will head over there with the tip, not anything he doesn't already know.

Now regarding the slut Jude Miller. Not only should her Pulitzer be revoked but she should herself be under investigation for espionage. It is quite possible that she is an undercover Israeli agent. It certainly is not far fetched. I myself was fed alot of bull during my Bar Mitvah years. This little girl is a Jewish princess right out of HollyWood High in L.A. Her audience is proportionately Jewish and wildly biased toward zionism. Willing consumers for all the fear she force fed them in the runnup to the War. Eventually a real house cleaning of Israeli double agents is going to have to be done in Washington, not to speak of the New York Times. They have moved freely thruout our power circles with blank checks and a terrifically strong lobby for many,many years now and have successfully infiltrated most all levels of power and influence. The day this stuff gets exposed is the day that America might begin to face reality imo.

unless the government appeals the Judge's ruling to a higher court. The Judge extended his stay just a handful of days until Wednesday, October 26th. So much potentially going down right now.

http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/courtweb/pdf/D02NYSC/05-06267.PDF