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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:17 AM
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"US occupation of Iraq would be politically and militarily untenable"
So warned Republican, brilliant foreign policy guru, and GHW's close friend, Brent Scowcroft.

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001024.html

So warned a long stream of top US military brass. And most the world.

Too bad Duhhhbya always thinks he knows better. All his life he's been a massive failure. Now his failure is putting people 6 feet under. Way to go, bush.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:25 AM
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1. Just read the article
from the Buzzflash link....

I'm amazed by the insights into Wolfowitz, Condi and Cheney....

WOW!

Gotta buy the magazine and read the whole story.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:34 AM
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2. US occupation of Iraq IS politically and militarily untenable.
Our mighty military can't control an impoverished 3rd world country. They hunker down in well fortified bases and kill from a safe distance.

Politically, other than the few remaining paid off states of the "coalition of the willing", America is alone and scorned for it's bloody aggression against a sovereign state.

It's just a matter of time until we either get out or are thrown out by a hostile population who resent foreign soldiers killing and exploiting them.

The number of people who die in the process is in the hands of the politicians who are trying to cover their sorry asses.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:59 AM
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4. Even if we had 2 soldiers in Iraq for every single Iraqi it would not work
We could control them, FORCE them to do whatever we wanted them to do.

That is not democracy, it is not liberty, and they would still hate us as much as they do now.

Life in Iraq for ordinary Iraqis was improving up until bush's invasion. Hussein's regime's "worst excesses" (as HRW puts it) were in the 1980s. TWENTY YEARS ago.

And then we go stormtroopering in, INVADING their country, OCCUPYING their country...even had we not killed a single Iraqi, they'd hate us. Just as we would hate China or Russia or Canada if they came stormtroopering in and started telling us what to do. And we'd have to either occupy forever (the current neocon plan) or leave and then we'd see a strongman emerge and a dictatorship blossom in Iraq (the other current neocon plan a la Chalabi.)

The bushCabal & their bots love to spew on about Germany & Japan after WW2, but that is total apples to oranges. Japan and Germany were the aggressors; now WE are Japan & Germany. Japan & Germany surrendered; Iraq hadn't much of any army to surrender in the first place. Japan & Germany were homogenous socities; Iraq is not and never has been. Japan & Germany had experience with democracies previously. Iraq has not.

Not one allied soldier was killed from enemy fire in the allied occupation of Germany. Not one. There is nothing comparable whatsoever between Japan & Germany allied occupations, and the current occupaiton of Iraq.

We LOST this invasion & occupation the day bush launched his war of choice aggression.

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mnmoderatedem Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:41 AM
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3. the bleeding continues

I love it!! :bounce:
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:52 AM
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5. Kick n/t
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mnmoderatedem Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:24 AM
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6. notice his reservations about Iraq are the same things we've been saying?

I wonder why Scowcroft hates America? :shrug:
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:37 AM
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7. Scowcroft publicly opposed Duhhhbya's war of aggression before
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 11:39 AM by LynnTheDem
Duhhhbya's war of aggression. Here's his article in case you missed it;

Don't Attack Saddam

Saddam's strategic objective appears to be to dominate the Persian Gulf, to control oil from the region, or both.

That clearly poses a real threat to key U.S. interests.

But there is scant evidence to tie Saddam to terrorist organizations, and even less to the Sept. 11 attacks. Indeed Saddam's goals have little in common with the terrorists who threaten us, and there is little incentive for him to make common cause with them.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110002133

OIL.
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mnmoderatedem Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:28 PM
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8. Thanks! (nt)
nt
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