Are DUers tolerant enough ot Christian-Democrats?

Trying to list a spectrum of views here..not looking for flames just trying to figure out where sentiment lie out there

I've not ever seen Christian Democrats singled out for attack, although I have seen Christian Democrats hide behind the dogma of their various religions to justify unequal treatment of others.

If someone is going to tell me that my rights are not equal and then hide behind dogma to do it, they deserve to be taken to task.

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Is there a specific issue you have with my post?

was against their religion. I hate to rain on your self-righteous perscecution parade but it's true.

and equality. But there are a few who don't care if there are Christians who are working for that. They see some of us as wearing the label Christian and therefore as being responsible for what every other Christian past, present, and future has done or will do.

of many for the sake of those few...it's like saying "Is America a hateful nation?" and basing it on the actions of Bush et al without taking into the account the fully 50% that did not vote for him and do not support nor approve of him.

AN I actualloy have not seen any of that. I would take them to the woodshed myself If I saw somehting like that.. Got a link?

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Must mean the end of the world is nie!

or a bunch of other '04 candidates.

But I don't recall any such opinions being posted.

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your question is "Are DUers tolerant enough ot (sic) Christian-Democrats?

The answer to that, for me, would be "yes" - I do believe that DUers are tolerant of Christian-Democrats. However, on your poll, if I choose "yes" - which is my correct answer to your question, then I am (according to your poll answer for Yes) agreeing that they are hateful.

Please re-do this if you want an accurate poll.

A christian posted a christian joke in GD and now you're on a mission.

My heart bleeds for you.

Really.

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because he was publicly calling out the mods, not because he's
christian.

Fer crying out loud.

Or do you think he should get special privileges and be allowed to break the rules because he's christian?

they see what they want to see. facts mean nothing. it's part of their religion. they run ever fucking thing and yet squeal like they are some perscecuted minority. thankfully not all DU christians are like this.

He is more representative of liberal christians on DU than people with pucker problems and no sense of humour.

...faction people here disagree with. Just look at an abortion thread, or gun control, or smoking (...), or any of the other subjects people here have very strong beliefs and passions about. Someone else said here once that we're like a big family at Thanksgiving dinner - we don't all agree or get along all the time, but in the end, we're still pretty much in the same family.

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There's bigotry here on DU, certainly. But it can cut both ways. People on both sides of the spectrum feel slighted and singled out. I'd like to focus more on all the ways we concur, and they are many.

These are all subjects that people here have strong feelings about and of which there is no consensus here. If we avoid these subjects altogether, we waste one of the greatest opportunities of a board such as DU - to explore, debate and (sometimes) understand our differing opinions and positions on such topics. If we restrict the manner in which we do so to politically-correct euphemism, we exclude some of these opinions and positions from our conversation or alter them so that they no longer have the same passion or meaning. The thing to keep in mind is that no one of us is more correct in our opinions than any other. At the end of the day, we are all mostly Democrats who may or may not be mostly opposed to the current criminal republican regime.

Freeper morans (sic) "moling" to get infighting started.

You want to bring it public then expect ridicule.....No matter whether you are Christian or Buddist or Muslim..Keep it to yourself and we will all be happy..

for those who choose to say Christians are idiots? I mean I am happy to keep my faith to myself while visiting the board but you can't honestly expect me to allow bigoted comments to go unchallenged.

Again my complaint is not about some one's personal views , but their bigoted intolerance of mine.

a weekly basis. We don't go around and say, "Accept Jesus and repent you dirty sinner!", but every week I seem to find new articles being posted in the GD forum saying, for all intents and purposes, "Your God is a fairy tale and you're a moron for believing in it.". Sure, only a minority of DUers do this, but they do insist on having the debate even though it divides this community. Fortunately, most of these topics have either been locked or disposed of like they should be.

For instance, this thread and there was another like it about a week ago: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5142196

wondering why we no longer carry the South.

Find me a Democrat on the national stage who mocks or insults Christians. Hell, find me a Democrat on the national stage who ISN'T a believer of some sort.

Then go back to scratching your head. We can't win the South because the Repukes have branded us as tax-raising, baby-killing, gay-loving, criminal-coddling wieners. And guess what - they tie those issues into RELIGION.

I'm a Christian (albeit a very unconventional one) and I guess I have a thick skin because I don't get worked up over criticizm of Christians. I guess it's because I assume they're talking about the Christian Taliban, who I also take jabs at.

This is a big board and it's meant for discussion. Some people are righteously angry at many of our country's so-called Christians. I don't think it hurts to remind them that many Christians are progressives and are on the "good" team. But Christians here could also understand that usually the criticism is not aimed that them. And sometimes people are merely stating their beliefs (or non-belief) and it's not their fault if you don't agree with them.

we think we have a duty to respond. I'd be happy to see these post in the Faith baord. but that smacks of a seperate but equal status for Christians.

I have a problem with ANYONE who tries to sell me their point of view, though. If I don't bring up the subject, then I'm probably not interested. Wake me up by knocking on my door, and telling me your point of view, and I don't care if you are God yourself, I will be PISSED.

If you want to be Christian, fine, but don't mention it every chance you get. This is what makes non-Christians angry. It's like, ha-ha, I'm better than you are because I'm Christian. That's how Christians got a bad name. And, I would feel the same way about Jews, Atheists or whatever belief.

zalinda

for athiestts to tel us Christians that we beleive in Fairy tales and are idiots?

I have not single OP on DU that tell people they are going to burbn in hell if they do not get saves. Have you?

Then get back to me on whether or not Christian Democrats here are being persecuted or attacked here. I have no problem with Christian Democrats. I think some of them are truly good. I've seen Christian socialists, and those are some of the best folks I've known.

Should we be like the backwoods bigots who hate atheists?

Not for me.

Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu ... all have their good people, and all have their evil people. I can find a reason to despise the person that doesn't include their religion.

Of course, anyone who puts their religion out there is fair game for challenge.

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if i say as a christian i believe that i have a responsibility with my fundamentalist christians preaching hate. i feel a responsibility as a christian, more so than a non believer, to stand up and confront the hate being preached to the nation and world

and i feel my fellow christians that are bothered with the loud mouth christians saying hate fags, have a responsibility too.


what is christian bashing?

These poll responses are inherently provocative