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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:35 PM
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Josh Marshall on with Al Franken right now
talking about Italian connection.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:37 PM
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1. kick
:kick:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:37 PM
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2. I hate knock off sequels
"The French Connection" was good.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:40 PM
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9. hey, you!!!!!
:hi:

who let you out of the Lounge? :D
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:44 PM
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13. They did the unthinkable
they erased a funny ass thread I had started and they did it real quick like. I am punishing them by running amok in GD.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:46 PM
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16. LOL -- RUN FOR THE HILLS
Underpants is channeling Godzilla :D
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:38 PM
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3. What's he saying?
Damn this is getting good!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:39 PM
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6. basically reviewing his post on TPM
the shite has officially hit the fan
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:39 PM
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7. talking about the aluminum tubes claim
how the * admin lied about the only use the tubes had -- the CIA did tests.

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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:43 PM
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12. Italians knew these were forgeries
after he found out CIA didn't buy it. Tried to find way around CIA to get this to US Gov.

Italy wanted to show US Italy was a good friend of US. Knew the Bush Administration would want this Bogus info.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:46 PM
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15. Lora Rosen has confirmed that Stephen Hadley
had secret meeting with Italian guy in Sept. 2002 just before the documents popped up in Rome. Two weeks before important speech. White House was fighting with CIA about the use of this information.

Documents popped up at a very suspicious time allowing Bush to include them in that speech.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:47 PM
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18. Al Franken "It's begining to look a lot like Fitzmas" cute.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:48 PM
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19. Commercial break nt
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:51 PM
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20. Now they are talking about Indictments nt
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:54 PM
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23. Says he dosent think anyone will be indicted. DAM!
Just kidding!!!

:evilgrin: :rofl:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:38 PM
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4. read my mind
:hi:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:40 PM
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11. Hey --
I was over at Uly's Sunday.

I told him and his wife you stole his other plant :hi:
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:38 PM
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5. I trusted Powell, too.
Yep. Franken isn't the only one who feels like an idiot about that!

:banghead:

Peace.
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eek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:39 PM
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8. thanks. has he talked about that Italian
Secret Service guy whom we 'accidentally ' killed while he was rescuing the journalist?

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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:40 PM
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10. he said * was referring to this doc in his SOTU but shrub cites UK sources
whats the deal :shrug:

peace
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:51 PM
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21. he just said that since our Intel wouldn't allow it, the neoCONs added UK
to get it in and past the CIA :crazy:

so does this mean there is no separate uk intel, that it is all based on the SAME forged DOC that our OWN intel told them was FUCKING FAKE?!?

if true, ya'll realize what this means right?

* lied to all U.S. reps AND weTHEpeople

IMPEACH!

peace
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:45 PM
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14. Italians knew * would want bogus information --
Chimpy wanted to include this info in his speeches even before the SOTU speech.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:47 PM
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17. You surprised?
I am not, not at all, these boys need to go to the Hague... all of the conspirators

I wonder if the Carabinieri will want to have a talk with the Italian Connection... and I mean the type of talks they usually have...
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:51 PM
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22. Here's the article they're talking about
Translation anyone? I got this from the Translator

http://www.freetranslation.com /

which is awful

http://www.repubblica.it/2005/j/sezioni/esteri/iraq69/bodv/bodv.html



"Pollari went to the White House to offer its truth on the Iraq" The dossier on the uranium from the Niger did
not involve the Ioc of CARLO BONINI and GIUSEPPE OF REMAINDER

ROME - For Nicolò Pollari, director of the Earthquakes, the rules of its occupation I am inequivoche. It says to Republic: "I Am the director of the intelligence and the mine alone institutional speaker, after the 11 September, was at Washington the director of the Ioc, George Tenet. How it is obvious, I speak only with him. ..". But it is actual truth that our barbefinte have working only with the Ioc? Or they supported also the clandestine efforts of the intelligence parallel created from Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz with the "group Iraq", the office for Special plans of the Pentagon, the office of the national security advisor, specific to find the useful tests for the "change of regime" to Baghdad?

It is a fact that, to the eve of the war in Iraq and with the supervision of the diplomatic advisor of Palace Chigi, Gianni Castellaneta (today ambassador in the Usa), the director of the Earthquakes organizes to Washington its diary with the staff of Condoleezza Rice, in those national years security advisor to the White House. Republic is in a position to document this double platform of the government and of the Italian intelligence. At least one of the meetings "very little institutional" of Pollari and, how they the secret agents say, it "accomplishment of a system" that holds together Government - Intelligence - Information.

Short recapitulation. The Earthquakes of Nicolò Pollari wants to credit the iraqui purchase of uranium crude to build a nuclear bomb. The diagram of the game is rather transparent. The cards "authentic" on an attempt to purchase in Niger (old "intelligence" Italian of the eighties) the door in gift the vicecapo of the Center Earthquakes of Rome (Antonio Nucera). They come bundled with other card built to the bell' and better with a theft simulated in the embassy of the Niger (if they extract of it card addressed and you stamp). The documents come shown from the men of Pollari to the agents of the station Ioc of Rome while a "mailman" of the Earthquakes, a such one of name Rocco Martino, delivers them to London to the MI6 of sir Richard Dearlove. It is the before instantaneous one. It returns useful to tell the second chapter of the Large organizing Deciet in Italy to build the necessity of a military intervention in Iraq. It already we saw. Greg Thielmann, former director of the front desk of intelligence of the Department of State, itself meeting place on the table the report "Italian" on the uranium. It does not remember the exact date.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:55 PM
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24. Thursday? Oh shit.......
I'll need a straight jacket! LOL!

Peace.
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