John Fund of WSJ is a damned liar

on CNN saying thayt Wilson lied about his trip to Niger

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

host/whore, throughout this entire fiasco, has ever asked one of these wingnuts exactly WHAT he lied about?

I've seen this over and over, and they just let it go by, as if etched in stone, that Wilson lied about his trip

never, ever has anyone tried to get to the bottom of Wilson's so-called lies about Niger

wonder what they could be....hmmmm?

fit easily into Wilson is 100% innocent or Wilson is 100% guilty framework. And our press corps is lazy.

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They lie about that too!

The answers I've heard were "He said the VP sent him to Africa, and that's not true!" "H lied about knowing that the yelloe cake documents were forgeries. He couldn't have known because it doesn't fit the time line!" I'm sure there's more and my brain just isn't remembering right now.

Any time they're challenged about this slander, they make two specious defenses: {1} that Wilson claimed he was sent by Cheney (he never did) and {2} that the "Senate Intelligence Committee" reported his deceit and falsehoods.

It's that latter one that takes us down the rabbit hole into Reichbot Wonderland. The Senate Intel Report DID NOT make any such allegations ... in it's main report body. Those slanderous claims were made by Pat Roberts, the chairman, in an abuse of the power of the chair by attaching a partisan addendum to the Report, an addendum that is merely a collection of partisan crap never agreed to by the committee.

The reason it's an effective lie is because to challenge it is to go on a fool's errand, and cooperate with the lengthy distraction. It's NOT about Wilson!! It's about the corruption and criminality of the Bushoilini cabal!

the focus on this investigation is too time consuming and the citizens of this country is worried about more important things? He compared it to other partisan scandals and then finally Jeffrey Toobin reiterated that it was the CIA that wanted this investigation and not the Democrats.

I'd like to know what's MORE important to the American people than an investigation into the full extent of "our" government's criminality?

but that fact that they keep either repeating the lie or accepting the lie continues to piss me off.

Bay Buchanan tried it yesterday on Wolf I believe and he said no he didn't and she backed off saying "fair enough."

Which seems kind of weird to me, because look at this guy...



My wife is about 5'2" and some 95 pounds soaking wet. If someone who looked like this goober even laid a hand on her, she'd kick his a$$ up around his ears. She would make him pray for a quick, merciful death. Mr. Fund has "weak guy" written all over him, which is why I find it hard to believe he actually beat any women...but, then, you never know.

Yes you never know. I am shorter than your wife, though I weigh a bit more :-(, I would kick his a$$ too.

(however, they don't like to talk about the Niger documents being forgeries) :rofl:

I was watching it and finally just turned it off in disgust. Just why is Joe Wilson a "bad guy"? And they keep drawing parallels with the Clinton witch-hunt/impeachment. I hate that phony "equivalance" because it has the effect of trivializing neocon treason practically out of existence. When I turned it off they were dismissing the idea that there was a "conspiracy." Spin, spin, spin...right up to the bitter end.

and without someone saying LIAR..LIAR everytime they do it, their lies become "accepted" fact..:puke:

...impregnated the adult daughter of his lady friend, and then was accused of domestic violence and a restraining order was out against him. He apparently was abusive to the young woman and argued with her about the abortion. Something like that. It was a few years ago.

Ski and Skinner show

summary of that somewhere at Salon's Table Talk, on the Media Folder there. last time I looked, the thread I started on them over five years ago is still up

lessee if I can find the fun URLs on the Fundbeater story

includes items on his EX FIANCEE and her mom (which relationship he denied existed), taped conversations...all kinds of very cool stuff, the sort of thing that should keep Fund and the likes of Dick Morris from EVER being allowed on the air again

amazing what the socalled MSM allows

http://www.americanpolitics.com/20020116Editors.html

snip:

Early this afternoon, our publisher had a conversation with Melinda Pillsbury-Foster, the mother of Morgan Pillsbury, whose live-in relationship with conservative editorialist and commentator John Fund has been the subject of reports, rumor and speculation for the last few months. In early September of last year, John Connolly broke a story concerning Ms. Pillsbury's pregnancy by Fund during the peak of "Lewinsky-Mania". The article was accompanied by a Windows Media recording of a phone conversation between Ms. Pillsbury and Fund, whose audacious caddishness defies description.

In recent weeks, political bulletin boards, particularly Capitol Grilling, have been rife with discussion of the relationship. Most of the subject threads on Capitol Grilling were removed as one rumor after another would surface: claims of police visits to Mr. Fund's apartment, suggestions of his involvement with other women, and questions concerning the circumstances of Fund's planned departure from the print edition of the Wall Street Journal. We believe the first claim to be true, based on documents provided to American Politics Journal by Ms. Pillsbury herself.

In the last few days, both Jeannette Walls at MSNBC and the New York Post's Page Six have picked up on the story. Ironically, the one gossip-obsessed outlet that seems to have passed on the story is FOX News. About three weeks ago, political strategist and writer Jeff Koopersmith tipped off Roger Ailes to the brouhaha. The next day, Fund was a guest on one of the FOX News Channel's programs. Shades of Dick Morris and Newt Gingrich!

The terse and blunt nature of Ms. Pillsbury-Foster's subsequent press release, which is reproduced in its entirety below, speaks volumes in and of itself. While the editors leave it to our readers to reach their own conclusions, they believe that her assertions concerning Fund are not only credible but may be convincingly supported.

>>>>>this is great, Pillsbury-Foster's open letter to Fund, in its entirety:

An Open Letter to John Fund
By Melinda Pillsbury-Foster

Jan. 16, 2001

It seemed a little strange today to call my daughter, Morgan Pillsbury, on her cell phone and hear John Fund ranting in the background to reporters on his landline denying that they were living together. But as I think I said earlier, nothing about this is normal.

Morgan told me, after he left for a few minutes, that he was completely enraged when Lloyd Grove read my entirely moderate and conciliatory statement to him. I think the thing that annoyed him the most was being called a small pundit. But I want to assure him that I recognize that he is over six feet tall. He is also rather overweight, as are many of us who are now middle aged.

So he is not small, at least in that sense.

I actually meant he was only a small presence on the national scene. Others might see this differently. I am sorry if I hurt his feelings.

His continued assertion that he and Morgan are not now domestic partners, as the saying goes, is specious. She irons his shirts, does his laundry, handles his dry cleaning, cooks his meals, pays his bills, keeps burritos in the refrigerator, and scrubs the toilet. That is about as domestic as you can get. John gives her stuffed animals, named Cuddles and Snoopy, good night hugs and has even offered to pay child support for them if and when the two part. In pillow stuffing, but at least he understands his responsibilities to them.

That is marriage. The wedding was entirely a formalization of what is; an afterthought.

Morgan has some other recordings in addition to the one she gave to John Connelly. Since John seems determined to continue to deny their relationship I suppose she should play them for him over the phone - at a safe distance - then to his attorney.

Then we can perhaps avoid having to listen to them on line.

So, John, have a very nice day. I'm going to take the kids to Disneyland tomorrow. We will be thinking of you when we see Grumpy, Dopey, and most especially Mickey Mouse.

He was fully accepted by the MSNBC crowd even when in the throes of the domestic trouble.

ents.