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MojoXN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 11:24 PM
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I am the poster-child for Pro-lifers...
I am adopted. And yet I support the rights of women to choose abortion if they decide to do so. As a Freeper would say, "Whaaaa?!"

I am 24 years old (almost). I was raised by wonderful people, starting at the tender age of nine days. I do not know who my biological parets are, and to be perfectly honest, I could care less. So, in light of the fact that I was a PRIME candidate for abortion, why do I support this right?

Easy. I've seen what happens to unwanted children as they grow up. An unwanted child is another mouth to feed. Another person that must be clothed, protected, provided for. Some people become pregnant and simply CANNOT provide for their unborn child, both pre and post-natally. Why should someone bring a child into the world who will never be truly wanted, let alone appreciated? Simply because sperm and ovum melded? I think not.

A more brilliant DU'er than I once said (rather succinctly), "Republicans: Life begins at conception, and ends at birth." They didn't take it far enough, on many fronts. First of all, both sperm and "eggs" are alive to begin with. It isn't as if two inert components "magically" become a thinking, living, viable person as soon as they merge, nor is it the case that said entity is thinking, in any meaningful sense of the term.

Second, why is it that the lives of those who have been born some time ago don't seem to matter to the anti-abortionists (pro-lifers)? I mean, how the hell is one, "pro-life" if they support pointless wars of conquest? But I digress.

Why am I pro-life? I have known MANY people who grew up in HORRIBLE situations, only because their parents "didn't believe" in abortion. Beatings, sexual abuse, emotional distance to the point of lasting harm, you name it these unfortunates have suffered through it all. Is it better to live a life of hell rather than never live at all? That's not for me to decide. But I would submit, for your consideration, that the so-called "culture of life" focuses on the unborn (who aren't truly 'alive' until month six) at the expense of the post-born.

What's wrong with this picture? Everything. The solution? There isn't one. Just rest assured that this adopted individual supports the pro-choice position, as he has seen what happens when it is not an option.

I know that I'm preaching to the proverbial "converted." Sorry to be so disjointed, organization was never my strong suit. Any thoughts?

MojoXN
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 11:28 PM
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1. "Republicans: Life begins at conception, and ends at birth."
There you have it.
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 11:30 PM
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2. Your parents seem like wonderful people
but they brought you to West Virginia. Isn't this child abuse or something? ;-)

Actually, I like West Virginia, it is a VERY underrrated state. I gues it depends on where you are. I like Charleston, and the eastern panhandle, but I'm not so sure I'd like to spend much time in coal country, the southern part of the state.
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MojoXN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 11:33 PM
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4. I'm in the Northern Panhandle.
Y'know, the part that looks like it's flipping you off?

And yes, my Mom IS a wonderful person. As for my dad, he means well, but... Let's just say he's a sixteen-year-old trapped in a fiftyeight-year-old body.

I used to live in the Coal Counties. They aren't as bad as you would think. Poor as hell, but downright steeped in culture. Thank you for your kind observations, brother or sister. Yol Bolsun!

MojoXN
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 11:30 PM
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3. I personally would've never had an abortion but completely
and 100% believe in a woman's right to choose.

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MojoXN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 11:34 PM
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5. I have a penis...
But I CERTAINLY support a woman's right to choose.

MojoXN
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 12:01 AM
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15. WTF?
This post and this entire thread is so...I wish you understood why people SHOULD be pro-choice. HELLO. CIVIL LIBERTY. HUMAN RIGHT. But you don't. That is really, really sad.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 11:34 PM
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6. I'm adopted too Mojo
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 11:38 PM by shadowknows69
and born in 1969 so I admit I have conflicted feelings about abortion. I absolutely support the right of women or anyone to be in complete control of their own body but I can't help the splinter in my mind that reminds me I was a pre-Roe V. Wade adoption and that I guess it could have gone either way after if it was after 1972. Could have gone either way in 69 too but lets face it the decision was harder, logistically, before r V. w. I too couldn't have been blessed with better parents (well ok my dad had some issues and they're divorced) and I never felt unloved. Don't know where I'm going with this post except to thank you for putting this out there. I am a pro-life/pro choice adoptee. Safe,legal and rare. I guess. As I said. There will always be that splinter. I imagine its pretty common among adoptees my age. Is this too hard for anyone else to understand? I'd really like to know.
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MojoXN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 11:38 PM
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7. What do you mean by pro-life/pro-choice?
I'm a tad confused... Do you mean to say that you prefer the birth option, but support the right to choose abortion?

Oh, and from one fellow adoptee to another, "What did the adopted kid's friends say to him?"

"You don't even have a family!"

To which the adopted kid replies, "That's right! No holiday spending spree for me! By the way, how are things between you and YOUR family?"

The stunned silence is worth it...

MojoXN

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 11:44 PM
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8. You're singing my song...
Although i was never adopted...just dumped on relatives, who already had a house full of their own, with no time or room for me. It is pretty hard to get over the 'family' thing, when you've never had it. My mom died when i was a year old, and my dad, a WW11 vet was totally useless after that. Unwanted children are wide open to all the abuse the world has to offer, and aren't even aware that what's going on is not right. And, you never get over it. In order to be successful at anything in life you need a sense of self. And only those who have missed that part know what it's like. Like birds of a feather i have always gravitated towards those of my kind...which is anyone intimate with depravity. Its a cruel enough world, why make it more so?
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MojoXN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 11:45 PM
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9. Kick for egotism (and prurient interest...)
This self-aggradizement has been brought to you by:

MojoXN
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 11:54 PM
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11. Yeah
pro birth/pro choice. its just that lingering wonder what my mother would have done after Roe V. Wade. I absolutely think adoption is a better way to go than abortion but it's in my nature to wish freedom for everyone as I said. Would I have respected my mother's decision if she had terminated my birth? I guess that's a question for when I reach a higher plane of existence.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 11:53 PM
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10. I have parkinson's my life is a living hell
And yet the pro life crew wont even look at stem cell research. Therefore I know what you mean when you say republicans think that life begins and end at conception.
Peace -
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MojoXN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 11:56 PM
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12. Stem cell research is the most promising medical development...
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 11:56 PM by MojoXN
of the last half century, if not longer. It must be nice to be able to truly believe, "Abortions are bad Mmm'kay? You shouldn't have one, or it'll make you bad." Unless YOUR (Rightists) 16 year old daughter gets pregnant, in which case, it's OBVIOUSLY A-OK. Oy, the hypocrisy!

MojoXN
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 12:01 AM
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14. Mojo your a good person and that was a great post
There is a article on my fight with the prolifers in my old church before ibecame disabled. It's in the religious forum. Unfortunately I dont have the link. Peace my friend :D
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 11:58 PM
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13. Great post
Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 12:00 AM by FreedomAngel82
:hug: I'm a pro-life and pro-choice person. I'm pro-life in the policies I believe in. Such as better public education, stronger economy, healthy enviornment, protection etc. I'm pro-choice for the reason's you mentioned. Sometimes people do have to have an abortion. I wouldn't wish abuse or anything you mentioned on even Bush and his administration. With the republicans those who want nothing more than control I call them pro-fetus. They don't care about you as a person. All they want is to control you and claim they care but their policies clearly show other wise.
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MojoXN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 12:03 AM
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16. MERRY FITZMAS!!!
OK, rant off. Maybe within a short span of years, the true "adults" will be back in charge. Until then, there's always Canada! ( to say nothing of Switzerland)

MojoNX
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