Joe DeGenova just said Wilson wasn't very smart to write an editorial

Swede

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:37 AM
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Joe DeGenova just said Wilson wasn't very smart to write an editorial

when your wife is a covert agent. He's one of the commentators on CNN. What an idiot.

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Epiphany4z

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:39 AM
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1. Yeppers looks like they want

to blame the CIA for letting Joe write the piece.

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Beaverhausen

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:39 AM
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2. Yeah, it's not like Joe Wilson was Ambassador to Iraq or anything

oh wait...

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Punkingal

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:39 AM
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3. How sick and desperate they are!

As if he outed his own wife!

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wtmusic

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:40 AM
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4. Yeah...that just INVITES illegal activity on the part of your opponents!

What was he thinking??? :silly:

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Armstead

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:41 AM
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5. He actually has a point

Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 11:42 AM by Armstead

If your wife is a secret agent, doing something to raise your profile and invite publiuc scrutiny of your life is not the best way to keep her identity a secret.

Lest anyone flames, I am totally against the war, and believe everything connected to it stinks. But we gotta be honest ourselves.

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RetroLounge

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:44 AM
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7. Bullshit.

What raised his profile?

1) Writing an editorial about something you know all about, having been 2nd in command in bagdad and then in command during the first gulf war.

2) Being swift boated from all sides by the right wing.

RL

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Avalux

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:46 AM
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9. Nope. Sorry.

He was an Ambassador, and had been living a high-profile life. Laying blame at Wilson's feet is spin, RW spin.

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Fleshdancer

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:46 AM
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10. Like being an Ambassador?

or Director of Africa for the NSC? Or working for the State Department?

All this time she has remained undercover during his high profile jobs. She would still be undercover if Libby et al didn't leak her to the media.

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Armstead

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:50 AM
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13. Eyes on the ball

Clinton invited trouble by having adulterous BJ's in the Oval office, and then lying about it.

If someone goes on a mission and criticizes the administration on a very secret and sensitive subject, there's a good chance his wife's identity will come out.

It doesn't mean Wilson was wrong, and it doesn't mean the administration's action were justifiable. But we shouldn;t emulate the right wing and try to twist inconvenient facts.

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July

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Fri Oct-28-05 12:07 PM
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26. Actually, what Wilson did was more setting the record straight

rather than "criticizing the administration," which was using the notion of "a very secret and sensitive subject" to bullshit us into war.

And why would there be "a good chance" of a wife's identity coming out for telling the truth, or even for criticizing the administration? Wilson's a professional, and he was not willing to let the lies pass.

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emulatorloo

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:50 AM
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14. blame the victim?

not to flame, but listen to yourself.

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Armstead

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Fri Oct-28-05 12:02 PM
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23. I know what I said and I'm sticking to it

I'm NOT defending what the WH did. It should not let them off ther hook.

But I hate "spin" from whatever source. And the plain truth is that by doing what he did, Wilson was taking a risk about the consequences.

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Canuckistanian

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:51 AM
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16. No, I disagree

Why should anyone have the right to pry into your personal life just because you annoyed someone in power? And if someone found out, even accidentally that Plame was covert CIA, it was their duty and responsibliity to STFU.

And anyways, the RWingnuts are floating the idea that revenge was JUSTIFIED.

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stopbush

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:54 AM
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17. self deleted - dupe

Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 11:57 AM by stopbush

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stopbush

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:56 AM
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18. It's called "living the cover."

The worst thing an undercover agent can do is walk around with a sign hanging over their family saying, "I'm not an undercover agent." Wilson was in a position to write about Niger and he did. He would have done so if Plame wasn't a NOC. His going about his normal business helped to keep her cover intact. Let's not lose sight of who actually blew her cover.

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Bouncy Ball

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:58 AM
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21. Sorry, nope.

If I follow your argument to its logical conclusion, that means Joe Wilson and every other spouse of a covert agent should hide away in a cave on an island off Mars.

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Armstead

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Fri Oct-28-05 12:04 PM
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24. No but dropping a political A-Bomb in the NYT is not exactly discrete

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NYC Liberal

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Fri Oct-28-05 12:08 PM
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27. No, he doesn't.

IF someone found out about it, they should NOT HAVE LEAKED IT! End of story. They did, now they are receving justice for it.

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Corgigal

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:42 AM
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6. He told Condi that he was going to do this

This administration wanted him to write it. They already had the goods on Wilson and his family. They wanted his argument out there so they can discredit Wilson.

GOP SOP.

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Avalux

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:44 AM
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8. He didn't out his wife in the editorial.

The point of her being a covert agent is that NO ONE KNOWS who she is, including the fact that she's married to Joe Wilson.

What a dumbassed comment - to be repeated I'm sure.

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Kingofalldems

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:49 AM
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11. DeGenova is there to confuse

Just throwing stuff ou there to confuse the issue. SOP for the GOP.

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Humor_In_Cuneiform

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:49 AM
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12. I disliked DeGenova after he spoke one sentence at the most. n/t

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emulatorloo

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:51 AM
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15. Who the buck is Joe DeGenova and why the buck should I care

what the buckhead he says?

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progressivebydesign

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:57 AM
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19. 'he was askin' for it', is that what they guy intimated? sheesh n/t

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Gloria

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:58 AM
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20. The dark haired CNN reporter (?) outside the courthouse ....

he made the interesting comment at some point that there are lots of people working undercover married to high profile people, including well-known people are seen on TV!!

He had this little smile on his face... maybe your anchorman or commentator has a spouse that's NOC!!

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still_one

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Fri Oct-28-05 11:59 AM
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22. joe degenova, along with most of the repukes

an appologist for treason, but worse than that, an appologist for a war that was based on LIES!!!

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Mr_Spock

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Fri Oct-28-05 12:05 PM
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25. Who gives a flying FUCK what JoeDi says?

He's a fucking RW freeptard.

What do you expect?

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