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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 05:58 PM
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David Boies on Lou Dobbs-no wonder Gore tossed in the hat.
"This will never go to trial...it'll damage the nation too much...no one wants to see this go to trial."

Folks, this is how the vote was lost. This was how our civil rights were tossed away.

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:00 PM
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1. Boies - one of the most over-rated attorneys ever.
maybe worse.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:04 PM
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2. IS HE CRAZY??????
eom
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:50 PM
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23. Sounds like it.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:06 PM
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3. It will damage the nation to see why we were lied to?
Oh, I see. :sarcasm:

What does Boies have to do with Gore? Involved in the 2000 Selection, was he?
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:13 PM
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9. Boies was Gore's attorney. n/t
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:15 PM
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10. What MH1 said, and he gave Gore bad advise, similar to the
patter we heard from him this evening. He needs to sit down and shut up and let others fight for our nation if he's too timid to do so.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:07 PM
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4. but his clientele is down, and he has this "gravitas" thingie.
He has been frequently out-thought by night school lawyers who know exactly what it means to try a case outside of the limelight.

I can understand what he said, though, about not going to trial. I suspect that he is right. The administration cannot afford the dirty laundry that will automatically come out. Watch for a plea-bargain, clear indications of wrongdoing by Cheney, a forced resignation by him, possibly Rove, and a whole new team in the VP's office and White House. The bad news is the debt that he owes to the fundie fanatics at the extreme right. If they take over for Card, Miers and others, including the VP, watch out. Syria and Iran will be invaded, at a minimum.

144,000 of Shrub's best friends will be heading to their promised land and waiting for the big cloud to take them away. Unfortunately, it might be a mushroom cloud. (thanks to Condi for making this all possible, including the reference)

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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 03:45 AM
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29. Put the fear of God into some of those AIPAC folks...
they could possibly prevent this.

If not going to trial means the outcome you are proposing, then it would not be such a bad thing. My fear is that it will all just fade away, but reading DUer's comments keeps me encouraged.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:08 PM
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5. David "They cleaned our clock" Boies.
He isn't the guy you want on your side.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:10 PM
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6. I want it to go to trial NOW Boies!! If it destroys this phoney democracy
Then the Republicans deserve it!!!

I will not live nor will I have my children's children
live in this over saturated corruption!!!!
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:10 PM
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7. Yeah,,,that`s the ticket!
"It`ll damage the nation too much" especially the Red State`s children.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:31 PM
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15. As soon as he said that I literally gasped ... DAMN!
This "bought and paid for" INSINCERE a**hole represented Gore?!? Between his alleged representation and Lieberman as his running mate, no wonder Bush-Co. was able to easily steal the election. :puke:
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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:12 PM
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8. Remember he advised Gore
to "let the system work"

what a POS
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:21 PM
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11. He's probably jealous of the Fitz!
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:38 PM
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16. He should be. nt
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:25 PM
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12. What on earth are you people talking about?
Are you judging Boies on the basis of this this statement or all of his work? If that latter, you are not well informed.

Maybe you should turn off the computer and go save civilization yourselves. You apparently know exactly what to do.

How does the trial of Libby get to Cheney? If you think it will, you know a lot more about this than I do (and I've read everything.)

You'd destroy the country for some long shot chance to get Cheney? He is unimportant. Honestly.

We need a discussion in this country on the reasons we were given for going to war. A trial of Libby will NOT go there.

Today was a huge disappointment. I personally think this is the end of it. At least we showed a high admin official is a big fat liar.

Fitz will not bring down Bush. This is not Watergate.

Go have a drink. Keep fighting. Find another way to open the discussion about why we went to war.

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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:28 PM
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13. On what effin' Jovian plain do have you been living?
Cheney and* and their crew have been systematically destroying this country for several years now. This is worse than Watergate.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:46 PM
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21. What Bush and Cheney did is much worse than Watergate
but I don't see how the indictments, or Fitz for that matter, get us there.

I just don't see how the trial of Libby opens a discussion on how we got into this war.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:51 PM
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26. It already has opened discussion in the public arena.
Fitzgerald will take care of the crimes he is able to prosecute and facts will come to light in the course of the investigation and be made known to the public. It's up to the citizen to take up the discourse in the public arena and to correct the course of the nation at the ballot box and in through the representatives they elect. The Rs will get slapped down for their hubris and greed, and for their disregard for the rights of the people and the sanctity of the law. This is far from over.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:41 PM
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19. It's not just the "trial of Libby" that is the issue with Boies....
it was his remark that "too many bad things" would come to light in this trial and it would damage our nation. What exactly are these bad things that would be brought to light? I'm sure he must have a clue and most of the rest of the country doesn't. This is what has become of the Democratic party in general and its DLC leadership: government has become so corrupt that it would be totally embarassing to both parties if it were all brought to light. This is only a short-term consideration, these people are only concerned about how we are going to look tomorrow or the next day, not with what is going to happen in the distant future because you KNOW it will all come out sooner or later.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:48 PM
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22. Exactly.
Expose the corruption to sunlight. This nation needs to heal and the only way to do this is to expose the corruption and to get rid of it.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:51 PM
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25. Fitzgerald will apply thumbscrews to Libby
Libby will either fess up to the fact that Cheney gave him marching orders to out Plame (conspiracy) or Libby will go to jail, lose his law license and go bankrupt.

Cheney has his pacemaker set on auto-defib tonight. I guarantee it.
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Native Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:30 PM
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14. Didn't you love Dobb's conclusion...
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 06:31 PM by Native
I agree with you David, it would be injurous (not a word - try injurious you moron) to the American public if this were to go to trial. Puke!
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:39 PM
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17. I hate to add insult to injury ...
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 06:42 PM by ElectroPrincess
but I'm getting this sinking feeling that if we don't hold our mostly - piss poor excuses of Democratic Representatives accountable TO THE PEOPLE instead of the CORPORATIONS, the rise of Nazi Germany will look like a Boy Scout Jamboree when compared to the "death and destruction" that will be unleashed on the world in the not too distant future!?!

Between Bush, Blair and the New "nut case" leader of Iran, we are SO f*cked ... *WE* meaning the non-investor classes within the ENTIRE World Community.

No, I'm making a promise to myself NOT to vote for any Corporate loving Democrat. Some things are more important that Party Loyalty, i.e., preventing corporate fascism and a One World Order. Don't forget that Wolfie is comfy running the WORLD BANK. Yes, we are sooo f**ked if we can't get our message out to the Average American. :puke:
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:42 PM
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20. Maybe Dobbs & Boies can't take it, but we can.
We're Americans, we're supposed to be tough.
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:40 PM
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18. "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH"
Now if I could just get Jack Nicholson's accent.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:51 PM
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24. Maybe he means it won't go to trial because they will cut a deal? n/t
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 06:52 PM by bluedawg12
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:54 PM
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27. "no one wants to see this go to trial"
:raises hand:

Speak for yourself, you incompetent hack. I want a big, fat, public, televised trial. In three-part harmony.
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randomelement Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:57 PM
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28. David Boies of SCO vs IBM fame?
Geezus - some Democrats are listening to THIS GUY? I'm reading this and I'm thinking "Gee, that name sounds familiar for some reason .....". He's around for the money AND ONLY THE MONEY - and his advice just flat stinks. Don't believe me? Just check out SCOX on http://finance.yahoo.com. This guy led McBride right down the primrose path (well, McBride wanted to go there anyway, but Boies did NOTHING to stop him). Send him over to the Republicans where he belongs ..... they're the party of greedy bastards - he'll fit right in.
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