Watching NOW. Matt Cooper is a total sleezeball.

Knew Karl Rove was his source and would not reveal it even as Scott McClellan lied to the presspool saying Rove was not involved in leaks.

Where is the accountability for the press? The press gets to decide what is or is not an issue involving national security b/c they get to protect their sources?

This is sick.

different than protecting sources because they were eyewitness' to crimes. That is a good analogy.

the Bush Administration, and a prosecutor forced the reporter to reveal his source, would we like that analogy?

been committed like the outing of a CIA agent. If the leak itself is a crime then the reporter is now eyewitness to the crime. If an investigation ensues then yes they have testify what they know. Leaking classified information in of itself isn't necessarily criminal, and in most cases won't be.

Cooper is married to Mandy Grunwald who is a longtime Clinton campaign team member.

Why in the world would any reporter keep WH malfeasance off the radar and out of the campaign even while Wilson was being maligned as just a partisan campaign hack working for Kerry?

Are Americans in charge of anything anymore? God I am just so damn disgusted by this bullshit!

He is the person who wrote an article about Plame. He let the public know she was a CIA agent who worked for Brewster, Jennings, & Assoc. Why is he not ever mentioned? Why isn't he being charged for outing an agent? I just don't get it. He should have checked more on her status before reporting on her. He just took right wing talking points and published them again. Sickening. I have lost more respect for the media, if that were possible. Matt Cooper, Judith Miller and Bob Novak should be fired at the very least.

Ought to leave every single issue of Time and their books to gather dust on the shelves.

in book form..:puke:

That's what's wrong with media..

He should have checked, but the guilt is on the leaker, not he leakee.
Just another journalist who acted as a stenographer for the govt.

This was all driven by the same Cheney mindset that began with the Nixonian WH. War, any war, for any reason, for oil. But all in the name of terrorism. These are all seasoned reporters. They both knew to ask and not to ask.

And its fucking wrong, all of it.

I think that Joe Wilson and his wife will file civil suits against Novak and possibly Cooper at a later date. Their written words caused harm and a civil suit could be won by the Wilson's.

Josh Marshall of TPM wrote about a quote from Novak of something to the effect that Novak wasn't clear about the difference between an analyst and an operative in the CIA.

After checking Nexus-Lexis, it was clear that Novak was very well versed in intelligence matters and had written many articles showing he damned well knew the difference.

the status one before outing her to the masses. And I haven't worked in Washington with the press and powers-that-be for the decades Sohack has. He is either a complete moron or he knew exactly what he was doing.

was told not to print Valeries name or the story by the cia!

he did anyway..why??

because rove told him to!

I've also wondered about Novak, it was HIS article that outed Plame yet Miller goes to jail. The only explanation I can come up with is that Novak ratted out Scooter to save his own hide. I think he's probably a little scared of the BFEE to rat out someone higher in the food chain, Rove or Cheney. This is one time where scrub-ya's cluelessness helps him. He can probably legitimately say, I didn't know her name. I'd be surprised if he can spell CIA.

This is far from over, to those people that are disappointed, I think, in time, we'll get our vindication over this case, the war and even the disastrous presidency. One domino has fallen, the next will pick up speed and hopefully, this criminal White House will be exposed so even people who get their news only from the TV will realize what we've known since 2000.

There are compelling reasons to protect sources so that we get the story. If sources get the feeling that they won't be kept confidential, they wont come to reporters to give important stories. I tend to side with confidentiality, though it is troubling in national security cases.

Without confidential sources, Watergate would not have been exposed and the Republican President Nixon would not have been forced to resign in disgrace.

compelling reasons for reporters to blow the whistle on what becomes the real story as opposed to what one wants to report on. Bear in mind, it has yet to be disclosed whether these reporters sought out the administration about Wilson or if/when the administration soought out these reporters.

I'll say it again, reporters are not meant to be in the driver's seat when it comes to national security. This is a scenario that proves it.

2010 soldiers are dead b/c these reporters and scores of others took part in this bullshit in place of doing their jobs.

That's what it basically comes down to. I cannot justify in my mind hiding behind a shield of journalistic privilege when it endangers others. The best analogy I can come up with is that it is illegal to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater and then claim the right to free speech as your defense in a trial where those who have been trampled seek damages.

Wrong is wrong. Period. I normally see many shades of grey, but in this instance Miller and Novak should be indicted, convicted and spend the rest of their lives in prison. Especially Miller. Pull their asses out of the swarming mass of journalists and focus in on them, their particular cases. This kind of anti-American and anti-world crap is not what the journalistic shield was intended to protect.

such as outing of a CIA agent. There is a big difference. Just think of the consequences of being able to leak anything. The CIA would not be non political anymore. Don't like one and the info they gather just leak their name. There has to be repercussions for things like this. Like Fitzgerald said in this kind of case the journalist is an eyewitness to a crime. Very rarely would a leak be of this nature. Of course the spin is to blur these lines. They crossed it in this case, and it was of consequence to the security of this country.

Novak and Miller and the others as their conduit for the smear. They LIKE that he's a sleazeball, because he's THEIR sleazeball.

to this admin. killing us. It may signify the loss of a job for the Wilson's and so on and so forth...but for Americans their adherance to this mythical right to the protection of sources is now killing us.

Wah, wah, wah..I want to write the story I want to write and so what if it risks national security. So what if we in the press have knowledge of illegal behavior and deceit prior to a very contentious election. So what if 2010 and soldiers have died...

That is their rationale and its pure crap.

for the press.

There are journalists who take risks to inform the public, who deserve to be able to protect their sources.

Cooper and Miller weren't taking any risks, they were being White House pets.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think I'm starting to respect Novak for flipping so early. IF he was sincere in his belief the leak was no big deal and not illegal he was doing the administration a favor they didn't even realize, in taking the option to testify early. IF he knew damn well the leak was illegal, he chose not to protect those guilty of a criminal act that jeopardized nat'l security.

until his lilly white ass was on the line. That's not reporting, that's just journalistic crap.

Its a shame.

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judy miller for propaganda in taking us to war..even if it began as a nuisance lawsuit..she deserves nothing less...then move on to novak and nyt and WP...we have a right in our constitution to hold them accountable!!

remember they are our airwaves they use ....and they are supposed to be the fourth estate in our constitution...

and they have lied and abused our constitution and been the propagandists our constitution demanded they protect us from!!

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