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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 05:51 PM
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Kerry and Fiengold make scathing statements on Iraq Intelligence!
Edited on Tue Nov-01-05 05:53 PM by cynatnite
SENATOR JOHN KERRY (D-MA): “For a year and a half, the Republican leadership in Congress has refused again and again to complete Phase II of their investigation into pre-war intelligence failures. All the requests I and other Senators have made of the Intelligence Committee for more information have been pushed aside. The Republican leadership has been complicit in a political cover-up of the decisions that led to war. Nothing could be more serious or more deserving of full public disclosure. The families of our troops deserve the truth, as does every American. Now that one of the chief architects of the war in Iraq has been indicted for related crimes, it is more important than ever to know how intelligence was presented to the Congress.

“The country and the Congress were misled into war. It is deeply troubling that the Republicans in Washington are so afraid to share the truth with the American people. Clearly it will require an independent, outside investigation to get to the bottom of this.”

SENATOR RUSS FEINGOLD (D-WI): “I applaud Senator Reid’s effort to focus the Senate on what should be our top priority – our country’s national security. I voted against the Iraq war because I was concerned it would become a dangerous diversion from the need to keep Americans safe from terrorism. The war has become all of that and worse and that’s why I have proposed a flexible target date of December 2006 for an end to our primary military mission in Iraq. This Administration’s policy has made our country weaker militarily and economically, and it has emboldened and fostered the terrorist networks that threaten us.

Debating our nation’s security in closed session does not undermine consideration of the pending reconciliation bill, as some Republicans have tried to argue. Even if Democrats wanted to, they could not prevent the measure from coming to a vote. Far from obstructing the Senate’s business, Democrats are advancing it. Senator Reid has finally succeeded in overcoming the real obstruction we have seen in the Senate, namely thwarting efforts to get a complete and truthful accounting of the Administration’s activities in their rush to war.

more at:

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Kerry_Feingold_make_scathing_statements_on_1101.html
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 05:52 PM
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1. For or against?
Edited on Tue Nov-01-05 05:53 PM by ArkDem
:evilgrin:

Sorry, the title was just too good for a straight line....
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 05:53 PM
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3. Oops
:blush:

:rofl: Fixed.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 05:53 PM
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2. Thanks - 2 great senators behind our leadership.
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afdip Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 05:55 PM
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4. why did it take a year and a half . . .
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ItsTheMediaStupid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 06:00 PM
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5. Because sleazy corporate weasels control the airwaves
It took the Fitzgerald investigation to get people to pay any attention to this.

One more time, "It's the media, stupid!"

It might be more correct if my name was ItsTheChickenShitMedia. They aren't stupid, they're just cowards and whores.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 06:35 PM
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9. hahahaha...love the nick
and you are right....the media is a goddamned evil Lernian hydra that, thankfully and foolishly, is down to only five heads.

It holds Democrats and Republicans alike in thrall, and should be seen as a set of manacles for the mind.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 07:46 PM
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14. they talked it last summer with dsm and it went away
they talked about it on plame and then went away. they talked about it pretaining to phase II then it goes away. they have been talking about it. talk to media about why they ignore and dismiss the dems. the media make comments on air about doesnt matter what the dems have to say

you tell me, why we arent hearing what our dems have been and are saying
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 06:03 PM
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6. Brilliant. Two of my favorite Senators, and a culmination of
the DSM issue that Kerry brought up oh so long ago. It is exactly what was in his letter then.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 06:12 PM
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7. Yea!!!!!!!!!!!!! K&R!!! n/t
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 06:28 PM
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8. So I guess it's finally game on!
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 07:01 PM
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10. Well, alrighty then.

Kicked and recommended.






Peace
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 07:05 PM
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11. The Repuke Congress has abrogated its constitutional responsibilities
and prerequisites by, in effect, becoming a lock-step arm of this Administration and have, IMHO, wholly abrogated their oaths of office, thereby making a mockery of their offices and the institution of the Congress.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 07:08 PM
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12. Yay!!!
Nice work, guys. Keep the pressure on.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 07:40 PM
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13. Let's have a Kerry Feingold ticket in 08
Kerry would make a great VP.
Feingold would make a better POTUS. :patriot:
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 09:35 PM
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17. yur damn right on! nt.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 07:51 PM
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15. Something left out of Kerry's statement
On June 22, 2005, John Kerry sent a letter to the Senate Intelligence Committee requesting an investigation of pre-war Iraq intelligence failures (and the Downing Street Memo). That letter can be found here. Senator Roberts response can be found here.

LINKS to Letters - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=1021
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 09:04 PM
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16. "Clearly it will require an independent, outside investigation"
I could suggest someone who would be good for conducting an outside investigation. :-)
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 09:35 PM
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18. Yeah!!! You go guys!!
:yourock:

I love how the story also posts the Republican response: "They have no convictions, they have no principles, they have no ideas." Waaaahhhh!!!! :cry: :cry: poor Fristy.... so upset he couldn't come up with anything more than the usual tired bullshit so eloquently belied by Mr Kerry's and Mr Feingold's statements...
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 11:58 AM
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19. BFD!!!, honest investigation would show that both parties warmongered
with or without good intelligence. Unless these two and several others admit the illegality of the war and their errors vis a vis the Iraq war and call for withdrawal, especially if key Dems cave on Scalito as they did on Roberts, why should we think there's more than a dimes worth of difference?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 12:37 PM
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20. One has already, the other really, REALLY doesn't need to
Kerry coughed up a mea culpa last week, and a "I made a mistake" two years ago.

And if you think that Feingold has anything to apologize for in this regard then you have NOT been paying attention.

The other bit of your post confuses me. Roberts and/or Scalito have nothing to do with intelligence re: the Iraq War. Two separate battles.

Scalito looks to be a fight. But Roberts had too much support.

They can't just sit there and filibuster everything. The problem is not Dem caving. The problem, and the fault, and the responsibility and ultimately the blame almost completely rests on the REPUBLICANS. Welcome to life in the minority. The nice part of that is that we aren't to blame for shit. THEY are.
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