Is George Tenet Mr. X? Is Plamegate a CIA plot?

I mean he became "outside the government" after he resigned.

Further, is the whole Plame affair a CIA plot of revenge? Did the CIA itself out Val? I think these are interesting proposals. Here is some discussion around that.

http://tinyurl.com/dw4vy

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Jacqueline, (Wilson's second wife), was a French diplomat and may have provided the connections for Wilson to see the forged documents that were supplied by the French through the Italians. It has been reported that she was a "cultural counselor" for the French Embassy, which some say is code for she was doing undercover work.

In other words it is possible that Wilson knew that the docs were forged because he was privy to the information that French wanted to discredit the British info on Saddam shopping for yellowcake and that Wilson's objective was the same. The French just happen to manage the yellowcake production in Niger.

IOW, he didn't lie in his first statement...he saw the documents

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French intelligence soon began a campaign to discredit the US case for war against Iraq. In 1999, French intelligence had begun investigating the security of uranium supplies in Niger, where uranium production was controlled by a consortium led by the French mining company COGEMA, a division of the French state-owned nuclear energy firm AREVA. At that time, Italian businessman Rocco Martino provided French intelligence with genuine documents revealing that Iraq was planning to expand trade with Niger. French intelligence took an interest in the documents and asked Martino to provide more information. In 2000 he used a contact in the Niger embassy in Rome to provide French intelligence with documents purporting that Iraq had purchased uranium from Niger. These documents were later exposed as forgeries;

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Since it is now also known that French intelligence was trying to push Martino’s forgeries on US and British intelligence, as simultaneously the Democratic National Committee was planning to discredit President Bush’s Iraq policy by accusing his administration of manufacturing evidence against Hussein’s regime, heightened suspicion is cast on Wilson’s use of the Niger investigation to discredit the Bush administration’s case for war.

Wuli also just posted a timeline thread asking the question about how Joe Wilson saw the documents before they were turned over to the CIA and other questions. It also validates the theory that he saw them in advance:

Then if you connect the dots between the article,Was the Joe Wilson Valerie Plame Affair a CIA Plot? http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_27261263.shtml

and the article New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name, http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/10/25/120424.shtml
you come away with all the makings of French/CIA coup attempt. George Tenet was Novak's first source, he was the administration official that was described as "no partisan gunslinger" by Novak.

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beleive anything out of news max ..its a reich wing propaganda rag...

just thought i would fyi with you!!

fly

Thanks for posting it at DU.

so if I WERE to think this might be the case, I'd be thinking it was pretty clever.

The argument is that the CIA was going to be "cleaned out" anyway, so maybe this was a way to get even? Maybe for the French too?

But maybe it backfired...and maybe they didn't think the administration would go so far as to actually USE it.

Press Club speech by Joe Wilson before you go further.

I'm only discussing this because it is an interesting hypothesis.

... too many assumptions not based on the evidence--and the suggestions that France was pushing false evidence on the US and the Brits doesn't make sense. They wouldn't gain anything by promoting a war that wasn't in their interests. And, the documents were used to justify war.

Most of the supposition about Tenet depends upon him being retired, and yet, Novak published her name eleven months before Tenet retired.

Finally, the "disgruntled" ex-CIA people mentioned could just as easily have been the people mentioned in Josh Marshall's reporting on SISMI, who visited the Italians along with Michael Ledeen in 2001.

Also, I think I read somewhere that the break-in at the Niger embassy occurred quite a number of years ago. Cannistraro wasn't planning this a decade ahead.

Nah, all this, along with some comments by other ex-CIA people that they were upset by the perversion of intelligence. The other thing that makes me think that this is a red herring is the Office of Special Plans--that group was set up to bypass the normal intelligence vetting system and it was dismantled after the Iraq invasion started. That was the group pushing a high degree of the suspect intelligence, not the CIA, and those fellows in OSP had a strong motive to do so, not the CIA.

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