DU'ers Trashing Kerry With No Actual Evidence Or Direct Quotes- Pathetic

Someone please provide the actual quote, from Kerry's own mouth, where he denies saying anything about Election Fraud?

All I've seen so far is reference to a misleading Rawstory headline that links to a statement from someone in Kerry office and not the Senator himself. Rawstory claims "THE Kerry Sspokesman". The irony here is that many people now hyperventilating have slammed Rawstory as unreliable.

Additionally, where is the ACTUAL quote where Kerry says he believes there WAS Election Fraud or that 2004 was stolen?

Cause all I've seen is a casual recounting from an Author who is trying to sell his book. If Miller wants to consider himself a reputable journalist, he can give us a direct Kerry quote and indicate whether Kerry knew he was on record or not.

I want to know exactly what Kerry said to Miller and the context.

or are just unable to?

snarky at times. I prefer David Wade as he preserves snark for the Republicans.

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. Miller overplayed the story to make it more compelling and Backus underplayed it (BADLY) because Kerry needed it underplayed to preserve other efforts.

People may not understand that as much as WE all want to hear about the theft every day blasted in headlines, it may not be helpful to have quotes attributed to Kerry when he's still involved in election lawsuits in Ohio.

behavior.

Still waiting for Miller to post an actual quote and indicate if it was Kerry speaking on record.

Miller wants to be considered a professional journalist, let him provide an actual quote officially attributed to Kerry.

Not some general story from some party.

Was Miller taking notes at the time? Was he drinking?

And the kicker, are you one of the DU'ers who've trashed Rawstory for being unreliable? Cause the second "Kerry Quote" didn't actually come from Kerry and that misinformed title was posted at Rawstory.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/05/11/05_mcm.html


As for rawstory, I'm as cynical of them as anyone else. Same goes for Miller. But this is prototypical Kerry, if you've been paying any attention at all.

It is 'prototypical" of Kerry and if it wasn't, there wouldn't be such discussions about sorting out what Kerry did or didn't say.

There is always confusion surrounding what Kerry has said, because his style is to obfuscate.

That was my point.

And, yes, I would like to see her replaced with someone tougher and smarter not snarkier. My guess is that she was the one in the office at the time. I prefer David Wade.

knows just what to say.

that Miller said in the AAR interview -- which I haven't listened to -- that Kerry merely *didn't* say that it was off the record.

I take that to mean that Kerry didn't realize that a casual conversation with someone handing him a book at a fundraiser needed to be categorized as "off the record" or else this person would feel free to recount his version on AirAmerica. I wouldn't be surprised if Kerry expressed general agreement with the idea that there was fraud and shenanigans in Ohio, and Miller took it to mean that he agreed with the much stronger claim that "the election was stolen," which is a horse of a different color.

*can* speak for the senator -- she would've checked it with him, and if she'd messed it up, a correction would've been issued. So a statement from his office is as good as a statement from Kerry, unless we hear something different from him personally.

Granted it has cost Kerry ground on DU which is left of center, but it reinforces negative perceptions many have had about Kerry for a long time.

Maybe he can hire Rove as an advisor when he becomes available.

I'd be happy with a Jimmy Swaggart-style confession on the Senate floor. :satire:

cryingshame, you're giving me hope that not everyone on this board buys Republican lies about Kerry or is a not-so-covert FR disruptor. Stop that! It is too painful when my hopes are crushed.

I just fucking hate the circular firing squad and hypocracy.

embrace, but when it is bullshit, you gotta stand up for it. like mongo's porn...... i dont like porn, but what repugs and fundies are doing, i have to stand up for porn.

it is not about protecting kerry, it is about, wtf are you people doing to this party. kerry is the most active senator the last ten months, and we want to take him down? i bet repugs are a gigglin and a gigglin. this story mark gives does not make sense, does not sound like kerry, is selling a book on fraud, wtf..... i wnat to know before creating it as my world

and rawstory, i tuned rawstory out a while ago. i consistantly saw them slant stories to attack kerry in the same ole, repug talking point attitudes.

who the smart, decent people on this board are. I don't expect people to love everything about every Democrat, but the extremity of the hatred coming from even long-time members here which is not even based on anything Kerry is reliably documented to have said shocked me. It really means something to me that people who are distinctly NOT in love with him, or would have prefered a different candidate last year have come forward to say not "don't hurt Kerry" or even "Democrats should defend other Democrats," but--don't lie? Don't hate. Work with facts.

yes

Clark operatives?

There are no Clark "operatives" on this board - only fans of his.

And, on top of that, what makes you think Clarkies are saying bad things about Kerry.

I think he has a case of source's remorse, but I don't hate the man and I don't think he's a wimp. He's just too cautious.

laying into Kerry, have tended to appear at the same time. As if concerted. Maybe I've misread what I saw and distorted the reality, but I don't think so.

I've got a short fuse when it comes to my ignore list. Really if people are here to send me on wild goose chases and be counterproductive against the Democrats, I keep a lot of them from wasting more of my time.

One year until 2006! Use your time wisely!

:shrug:

;)

With 18 or so threads on the same topic all over DU in the past day, the op probably thinks everyone knows EXACTLY what he is talking about. Seems like a reasonable assumption to me.

I guess it's easier to make a broad-brush personal attack in a separate thread than individual personal attacks that might get removed? It's really too bad that discussion isn't deemed sufficient. What the hell ... attacking the messengers as a vague group rather than the individual messages is so much more satisfying.

:eyes:

and not answered, in the other threads.

And there are multiple other threads.

I take this as more of a "meta" complaint that there are posts that are merely to trash someone based on hearsay. He is not calling out specific DU'ers, just suggesting that certain behavior occurring at DU is inappropriate.

FWIW, there have been plenty of personal attacks in the other threads that I expected would be removed, and they have not been. Flame war seems to be the order of the day today. I do not know why. :shrug:

Starting a new thread is always better, because you get to reframe things. It's a frustrating cliqueniess that is bound to happen.
I so agree. oh wait am I guilty of this too?

:hide:

... goes off to start a new thread asking if my response was a meta-whine, and seek support from people with me-too's.

:loveya:

Here's the link to MC Miller's account, as close to a quote as I can imagine. What happened later with staff statements should be viewed with this first-person account in mind.
<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=399775&mesg_id=399790>

Or you can go to DU's "Election Reform" forum and search for it there. It's post #10 in this topic <http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=399775&mesg_id=399775

Kerry's "I know..." reply to Miller's question is IMHO, not exactly
saying "the election certainly was stolen..." I think Miller, in his
enthusiasm for proving theft, which I heartily share, may have
"extended" Kerry's comment a bit.
(edit, add comment to first line)

and that's quite different from a journalist speaking on record with an elected politician and getting attributable quotes.

<Someone please provide the actual quote, from Kerry's own mouth, where he denies saying anything about Election Fraud?>
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The point is, Kerry has nothing to say about Election Fraud - or anything of importance :-(

here is just one link I came up with re Count Every Vote Act:

http://kerry.senate.gov/v3/cfm/record.cfm?id=243484

8/03/2005
John Kerry on the 40th Anniversary of the Voting Rights Act

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“Real election reform means passing the Count Every Vote Act of 2005, which seeks to end absurdly long lines, the erroneous purging of voters, voter suppression and intimidation, and unequal access to the voting process. {b]The Count Every Vote Act would also incorporate a voter-verified paper trail for use by all voters, including those for whom English is a second language, illiterate voters and voters with disabilities – and mandates national standards in a variety of areas, including voter registration and counting provisional ballots.

“Real electoral reform also means fully funding the Help America Vote Act, funding the activities of the Election Assistance Commission, and helping states invest in better voting machines with paper trails. That means putting partisan politics aside and joining together as proud citizens to eliminate barriers to voting, encourage the greatest level of civic participation possible, and restore the confidence of the American people.

“One of the most significant ways we must continue the fight for civil rights and voting rights is with the nomination of our next Supreme Court Justice. We all know the crucial role the Supreme Court plays in protecting and preserving voting rights and civil rights. So far, what we’ve learned about Judge Roberts’ record on these areas is troubling, and I intend to keep pressing for all the relevant information on his record so the Senate can make an informed decision on this lifetime appointment.

“I hope Washington can come together to make election reform a reality, because there is no greater right than the right to vote. This precious right was hard-fought by brave American citizens who risked their lives to register voters, who marched, who stared down Bull Connor’s police dogs, who faced the threat of lynching, and some who even lost their lives fighting to open up the polls and make the right to vote real for every American.

bolton and the scj, pullout of war, schools........
"Kerry has nothing to say about Election Fraud - or anything of importance :"

i think i will call you on the honesty of this statement

But lets not look at facts! :sarcasm:

Thanks for your insightful post. I am going to stop supporting all this worthless crap now, thanks to your stirring words! Hell, all he's doing is wasting my time with all his stupid statements about human rights, lifting up the poor, education, health care and all his other crazy ramblings about "values" and "accountability" and "reform".
WTF's wrong with you, Kerry? I have spent HOURS reading all this crap you've been doing over the past year.
Quit wasting my time!

11/04/2005 The Rosa Parks Memorial Statue Act of 2005 (S. 1959)
11/02/2005 Senator John Kerry’s Eulogy of Rosa Parks
11/02/2005 Senators Bill Nelson, John Kerry Aim to Curb Increases In Medicare Premiums for Seniors
11/01/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Tax Reform
11/01/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Closed-Door Senate Session and Senate Failures to Investigate Pre-War Intelligence
11/01/2005 Kerry's June 2005 letter to the Intelligence Committee
11/01/2005 Roberts Reponse:
10/31/2005 Statement by John Kerry on the Nomination of Judge Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court
10/31/2005 Senator Kerry, Congressman Markey Fight to Protect Patients' Privacy
10/28/2005 John Kerry on Bush’s Terrorism Speech Today
10/28/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Indictments in CIA Leak Case
10/27/2005 Statement by Senator John Kerry on the Withdrawal of Harriet Miers' Nomination to the Supreme Court
10/26/2005 Statement from John Kerry on the Passing of Congressman Ed Roybal
10/26/2005 Statement from John Kerry on The Loss of the 2,000th American Service Member in Iraq
10/26/2005 Statement from John Kerry on Senate Defeat of LIHEAP Amendment
10/26/2005 Senator John Kerry Lays Out Path Forward in Iraq
10/25/2005 John Kerry Statement on Passing of Rosa Parks
10/24/2005 Statement by Senator John Kerry on Nomination Of Ben S. Bernanke to Serve as Chairman of the Federal Reserve
10/20/2005 John Kerry on Commerce Committee Defeat of McCain Amendment
10/19/2005 John Kerry to Introduce Legislation to Help Prevent Future Dam Emergencies
10/18/2005 STATEMENT FROM SENATOR JOHN KERRY ON TAUNTON EVACUATION
10/18/2005 STATEMENT FROM SENATOR JOHN KERRY ON TAUNTON EVACUATION
10/18/2005 Kerry, Kennedy Urge President Bush to Fully Fund LIHEAP
10/14/2005 John Kerry Statement on Passing of Vivian Malone Jones
10/13/2005 Senator John Kerry on Small Business Administration's Role in Hurricane Reconstruction:
10/13/2005 John Kerry Statement on Passing of Dr. C. DeLores Tucker
10/12/2005 Kerry, New England Senators Call on Bush Administration to Increase Energy Assistance for Low Income Families, Seniors
10/07/2005 Kerry on Bush Speech, President’s Attacks on Critics
10/05/2005 John Kerry on Senate Defeat of LIHEAP Amendment
10/04/2005 Senate to Debate Kerry LIHEAP Amendment This Week
10/03/2005 Statement on the Nomination of Harriet Miers for Associate Justice
09/29/2005 Kerry, Durbin, Solis, Hastings Fight to Protect Public Health And Environmental Equality in the Gulf Coast
09/26/2005 John Kerry Addresses American Competitiveness
09/23/2005 John Kerry Joins Effort to Protect Communities' Rights to Provide Broadband Services
09/22/2005 Kerry Introduces Plan to Combat Global HIV/AIDS, Neglected Diseases
09/21/2005 John Kerry Opposes Roberts’ Nomination for Chief Justice
09/21/2005 Remarks by Senator John Kerry on His Opposition to Judge Roberts' Nomination for Chief Justice
09/20/2005 John Kerry Addresses African American Prostate Cancer Summit; Demands Washington Address Racial Disparities
09/19/2005 John Kerry Addresses the Lessons of Katrina
09/15/2005 John Kerry Responds to President Bush’s Speech to the Nation
09/15/2005 Senate Passes Kerry Legislation to Provide Tax Relief, Help Guard and Reserve Troops Hurt By Katrina
09/14/2005 John Kerry: Administration Must Investigate Gas Price Gouging
09/13/2005 John Kerry Statement on President Bush’s Failure to Respond to Hurricane’s Devastation
09/13/2005 OTIS REMAINS OPEN FOR NEW MISSION
09/12/2005 Senator John Kerry on Resignation of FEMA Director
09/09/2005 John Kerry Says SBA Must be Held Accountable for Misuse of 9/11 Funds
09/09/2005 John Kerry Offers Major Package of Legislation to Help Small Businesses, Others Devastated by Hurricane Katrina
09/07/2005 Kerry, Kennedy and Meehan Demand EPA Cleans Up Water Contamination at W.R. Grace Superfund Site
09/07/2005 Kennedy, Kerry Announce Introduction of Lowell Park Expansion Legislation
09/06/2005 Senator Kerry Applauds Fight to Keep Otis Open, A-10s at Barnes
09/04/2005 Senator John Kerry on the Passing of Chief Justice William Rehnquist
08/26/2005 Senator John Kerry on BRAC Commission’s Decision on Otis and Barnes Air National Guard Bases
08/26/2005 STATEMENT FROM SENATOR JOHN KERRY ON BRAC VOTES ON HANSCOM
08/25/2005 Senator John Kerry Commends Decision of BRAC to Keep Portsmouth Naval Shipyard Open
08/23/2005 John Kerry Says Proposed Fuel Economy Standards Don’t Address Problems with Foreign Oil, High Gas Prices
08/17/2005 SENATOR KERRY, SENATOR KENNEDY ANNOUNCE GRANT FOR MEDFORD LAW ENFORCEMENT
08/17/2005 SENATORS KERRY AND KENNEDY ANNOUNCE FEDERAL GRANT TO WEST SPRINGFIELD POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR FINGERPRINTING TECHNOLOGY
08/17/2005 SENATORS KERRY AND KENNEDY ANNOUNCE FEDERAL GRANT TO WEST SPRINGFIELD POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR FINGERPRINTING TECHNOLOGY
08/13/2005 Senator John Kerry Delivered Democratic Hispanic Radio Address on Saturday August 13, 2005
08/13/2005 Senador de Massachussets, John Kerry, Emite el Mensaje Semanal Demócrata por Radio
08/12/2005 Senator John Kerry Delivered Democratic Hispanic Radio Address
08/10/2005 Kerry, Kennedy, Romney and Delahunt Say New Calculations Show Defense Department Overstates Savings from Closing Otis ANGB by $500 Million Dollars
08/09/2005 John Kerry Says Energy Policy Fails Americans
08/08/2005 Statement by John Kerry on the Passing of John H. Johnson
08/08/2005 Statement by John Kerry on the Passing of Peter Jennings
08/03/2005 John Kerry on the 40th Anniversary of the Voting Rights Act
08/01/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Recess Appointment of John Bolton as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations
07/29/2005 SENATOR JOHN KERRY LAUDS DECISION BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION TO KEEP MASSACHUSETTS TAXPAYER ASSISTANCE CENTERS OPEN AND URGES THE ADMINISTRATION TO SAVE BOSTON CALL SITE
07/29/2005 Senators Kerry and Kennedy Lead Bipartisan Effort to Get Emergency Funds for Shellfishermen
07/29/2005 John Kerry Says Energy Bill Fails Americans
07/27/2005 John Kerry Says Revolution in Telecommunications Must be Addressed in Legislation
07/26/2005 Senator John Kerry, Senator Edward Kennedy, Representative Michael Capuano Join the Massachusetts Coalition to Save Darfur to Raise Awareness of the Genocide
07/26/2005 Senators on Both Sides of the Aisle Call on President Bush to Release Home Energy Funds for Relief from Extreme Heat and Record Energy Costs
07/26/2005 Finance Committee Passes Kerry Plan to Protect Pensions, Hold CEOs Accountable
07/25/2005 Senators Urge Congressional Investigation Into Leak of CIA Agent Valerie Plame’s Name
07/22/2005 Kerry: American People Must Know Roberts' Record on Civil Rights
07/21/2005 Kerry, House and Senate Environmental Leaders Call for Administration To Reverse Backwards March on Environmental Justice
07/20/2005 Bush Administration Blocking Gas-Price Relief for Farmers, Truckers, Small Businesses
07/20/2005 John Kerry: Protect the Bill of Rights and Freedom of the Press
07/20/2005 John Kerry: Fewer Speeches, More Action Needed on Port Security
07/19/2005 Statement by John Kerry on the Nomination of John G. Roberts to the Supreme Court
07/19/2005 STATEMENT FROM SENATOR JOHN KERRY ON BRAC COMMISSION HEARING TODAY
07/18/2005 Senator John Kerry Announces $8,037,000 Grant Awarded to the Massachusetts Victim Witness Assistance Board
07/18/2005 Senator John Kerry Calls for Immediate Action on Veterans’ Health Care
07/15/2005 MASSACHUSETTS CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION DEMANDS SANTORUM APOLOGY
07/14/2005 Statement of Senator John Kerry on Homeland Security Bill
07/14/2005 Statement of Senator John Kerry: White House Claim that Too Much is Being Spent On Veterans’ Health Care is “Outrageous”
07/14/2005 Senator John Kerry Fights for Red Tide Program Funds, Criticizes Bush Budget Cuts
07/13/2005 John Kerry on Rick Santorum's Insult to Massachusetts and Abuse Victims Everywhere
07/12/2005 Senate Adopts Port Security Amendment to Homeland Security Bill
07/12/2005 John Kerry: America’s National Security - Not Karl Rove’s Job Security - Should be Administration’s Only Priority
07/12/2005 SENATOR JOHN KERRY AND SENATOR EDWARD KENNEDY ANNOUNCE $13,709 GRANT TO BOLSTER LAW ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS IN WARREN
07/12/2005 Senator John Kerry Works to Secure America’s Ports
07/07/2005 Statement from Senator John Kerry On Terrorist Bombings in London
07/06/2005 SENATOR JOHN KERRY FIGHTS FOR MASSACHUSETTS BASES AT PUBLIC BRAC HEARING
07/01/2005 Sen. John Kerry On The Retirement of Associate Justice Sandra Day O’Connor
06/30/2005 John Kerry continues to fight against LNG in Fall River
06/30/2005 John Kerry: CAFTA is a Giant Step Backward
06/29/2005 PRO-TRADE DEMOCRATS BLAST BUSH TRADE POLICY
06/29/2005 John Kerry on Medicaid: The Status Quo is Broken, Especially When It Comes to Kids
06/28/2005 New York Times The Speech the President Should Give
06/28/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Bush’s Fort Bragg Speech
06/28/2005 John Kerry Speaks Out on Iraq, Details Concrete Steps President Must Take to Rescue the Mission
06/24/2005 Kerry Fights to Help Small Businesses and Farmers Deal with Soaring Fuel Costs
06/23/2005 STATEMENT FROM SENATOR JOHN KERRY ON ADMINISTRATION’S DENIAL TO DECLARE MASSACHUSETTS RED TIDE CRISIS A NATIONAL DISASTER
06/23/2005 Kerry on Rove Comments: Make America Safe, Not Divided
06/23/2005 STATEMENT OF SENATOR JOHN KERRY ON NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND REPORT BY MASSACHUSETTS PUBLIC EDUCATION COALITION
06/23/2005 John Kerry: Time for a Policy Wake-Up Call on China
06/22/2005 Kerry joins Bipartisan Group in Offering Climate Change Amendment to Energy Bill
06/22/2005 Kerry Statement on the Release of the DNC Voting Rights Institute Ohio Report
06/21/2005 John Kerry on Marine Corps Report on Equipment Shortages
06/16/2005 Commerce Department Answers Call from Senator Kerry and the Massachusetts Delegation to Declare a Fishery Disaster in Massachusetts
06/16/2005 New Report: Private Accounts Would Cut Benefits, Increase Costs for Small Businesses
06/15/2005 John Kerry Fights to Protect Medicaid Benefits in Massachusetts and the Nation
06/15/2005 John Kerry Urges Bush Administration to Keep Massachusetts IRS Taxpayer Assistance Centers Open that Help Elderly and Low-Income Citizens
06/15/2005 John Kerry on GOP Proposal to Raise Retirement Age
06/15/2005 Kerry Takes Aim at Bush Energy Scheme
06/14/2005 CAFTA Information
06/14/2005 SBA RESPONDS TO SENATOR JOHN KERRY’S REQUEST TO DECLARE THE RED TIDE CRISIS AN ECONOMIC DISASTER TODAY
06/14/2005 John Kerry: After Decades of Inaction, A Time to Heal A Nation’s Wounds Over Lynching
06/13/2005 Jeffords and Kerry File Renewables Amendment To Energy Bill
06/13/2005 John Kerry: We Need a New, Common-Sense Approach to Trade
06/12/2005 John Kerry Applauds RiverFest for the Concord, Sudbury and Assabet Rivers
06/10/2005 Massachusetts Congressional Delegation Asks Commerce Department to Declare Massachusetts Disaster Area in Wake of Red Tide Crisis
06/10/2005 STATEMENT FROM JOHN KERRY ON GOVERNOR ROMNEY'S EFFORTS TO AID FISHERMEN
06/09/2005 SENATOR KERRY CONGRATULATES OUTSTANDING NCO OF THE YEAR STAFF SERGEANT ADAM BERG
06/09/2005 Kerry and Waxman Call for GAO Investigation Of Manipulated Climate Change Science
06/08/2005 John Kerry and Massachusetts Delegation Members Senator Kennedy and Congressmen Frank, Tierney, Delahunt and McGovern Strongly Urges Governor Romney to Act Quickly to Aid Fishermen in Red Tide Crisis
06/08/2005 John Kerry and Massachusetts Delegation Members Senator Kennedy and Congressmen Frank, Tierney, Delahunt and McGovern Strongly Urges SBA to Act Quickly to Aid Fishermen in Red Tide Crisis
06/02/2005 Pepperell Springs Conservation Effort Complete
05/31/2005 John Kerry to Join Students and Parents in Round Table Discussion on the Future of Head Start
05/31/2005 John Kerry to Visit Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts to Meet with Students and Staff of the TRIO Program
05/31/2005 Senator John Kerry to Visit Upper Housatonic River Valley to Highlight the Importance of Designating it a National Historic Preservation Area
05/31/2005 John Kerry to Host Town Hall Meeting on Issues Affecting Massachusetts’ Seniors
05/31/2005 John Kerry to Participate in Opening Ceremonies with the Kinsella Family at Brockton Rox Baseball Game
05/31/2005 Statement from John Kerry on Governor Romney’s Veto of the Stem Cell research bill passed by the Massachusetts Legislature
05/27/2005 Senator Kerry Honors Massachusetts War Heroes on Memorial Day Weekend, 2005
05/25/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Vote on Priscilla Owen
05/25/2005 Congressional Delegation United on NStar Utility Workers
05/24/2005 Fallout from "Nuclear Option
05/24/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Stem Cell Research
05/22/2005 Senator Kerry delivered at BU Medical School
05/19/2005 John Kerry on “Nuclear Option” on Judicial Nominees
05/18/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Massachusetts Lawsuit to Stop Toxic Mercury Pollution
05/17/2005 KENNEDY AND KERRY ANNOUNCE RECORD TRANSPORTATION FUNDING FOR MASSACHUSETTS – A $1.17 BILLION INCREASE OVER TEA-21
05/17/2005 Statement by John Kerry on the 51st Anniversary of Brown v. Board of Education
05/15/2005 John Kerry on New Mercury Rules:
05/13/2005 Statement by John Kerry On Pentagon’s Base Closure List
05/12/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Bolton Nomination
05/12/2005 John Kerry: It's Time to Reign in the Spin
05/05/2005 Statement by Senator John Kerry In Observance of Holocaust Remembrance Day
05/05/2005 John Kerry on Harmful Changes to “Roadless Rule”
04/28/2005 Kerry, Lautenberg Introduce Legislation to Stop Taxpayer-Funded Fake News Hearing on Bill Set for Early May
04/27/2005 John Kerry: White House, Congress Should “Go Back to the Drawing Board” on Energy Plan
04/25/2005 John Kerry to Address America’s Dangerous Dependence on Saudi Oil
04/21/2005 John Kerry on Republican Congressional Leadership's Failure To Focus on Real Priorities of the American People
04/21/2005 John Kerry on Republican Congressional Leadership's Failure To Focus on Real Priorities of the American People
04/21/2005 John Kerry to Address Republican Congressional Leadership's Failure to Focus On Real Priorities of the American People
04/20/2005 John Kerry on Retirement of Senator Jim Jeffords
04/20/2005 John Kerry: It’s Time for President Bush to Address Gas Prices, Dependence on Foreign Oil
04/19/2005 John Kerry at Senate Hearing on Toxic Mercury Pollution
04/19/2005 John Kerry at Senate Hearing on Toxic Mercury Pollution
04/19/2005 Senator John Kerry spoke this afternoon at a Senate hearing on toxic mercury pollution. The Merrimack Valley is one of nine mercury 'hotspots,' or areas with elevated mercury levels, in New England. The Senate Democratic Policy Committee held the hearing on mercury in response to repeated denials of Republican-led committees to hold hearings on the matter.
04/19/2005 John Kerry Fights to Halt Devastating Transit Cuts to Massachusetts Projects
04/19/2005 Statement from Senator John Kerry on Pope Benedict XVI
04/18/2005 Senate OKs death benefit boost for families of active-duty troops
04/14/2005 Channel 5 in Boston Reports on John Kerry's Victory for Military Families
04/14/2005 Kerry, Lautenberg Secure Hearing and Mark-Up on Fake News
04/14/2005 Senators John Kerry and Frank Lautenberg Say Taxpayer-funded “News” Abused by Administration Should Have Disclaimer
04/13/2005 Kerry pushes military initiative
04/13/2005 Senator Kerry Takes Military Story to the Senate
04/13/2005 Senate Passes Two John Kerry Amendments for Troops
04/12/2005 John Kerry Fights to Add Troop Benefits to Supplemental
04/11/2005 Statement by John Kerry on John Bolton’s Nomination as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations
04/07/2005 Kerry: Publicize benefit for vets
04/04/2005 Stem-cell Research is Pro-Life
04/02/2005 Statement from Sen. John Kerry on the Passing of Pope John Paul II
03/30/2005
03/30/2005 Bush's Budget Assaults Our Values, by John Kerry
03/29/2005 Budgeting our values, by John Kerry
03/29/2005 Leading health care, children's and labor organizations support KidsFirst
03/27/2005 Dishonest' Bush budget ignores needs of the nation, by John Kerry
03/26/2005 Budgeting our values, by John Kerry
03/25/2005 Thanks to Dedicated Citizens, Assabet National Wildlife Refuge Opens
03/25/2005 SENATOR KERRY ANNOUNCES $267,986 STUDENT SUPPORT SERVICES GRANT FOR MASSACHUSETTS COLLEGE OF LIBERAL ARTS
03/25/2005 Bush’s latest budget plan is assault on country’s values, by John Kerry
03/24/2005 Leahy, Jeffords, Boxer and Kerry
03/22/2005 John Kerry on EPA Hiding Harvard Scientific Data on Health Effects of Mercury
03/17/2005 John Kerry Statement on Senate Action to Save Medicaid from Drastic Cuts
03/17/2005 John Kerry Says Washington Budget is Out of Touch With American Values
03/17/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Senate Action to Save Medicaid from Drastic Cuts
03/17/2005 Senate Passes Landrieu-Kerry Reserve Fund For Reservists and Small Businesses
03/16/2005 John Kerry will make a major speech on America's budget priorities on Thursday, March 17, to the Center for National Policy
03/16/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Paul Wolfowitz’s Nomination to be President of the World Bank
03/16/2005 LAWMAKERS ANNOUNCE NEW FUNDS FOR YOUTHBUILD PROGRAMS IN MASSACHUSETTS
03/16/2005 Senate Opens Arctic Refuge to Drilling
03/15/2005 Senator John Kerry fights to establish the Upper Housatonic Valley National Heritage Area in Massachusetts and Connecticut
03/15/2005 Senator John Kerry fights to establish the Upper Housatonic Valley National Heritage Area in Massachusetts and Connecticut
03/15/2005 John Kerry on New Mercury Rules:
03/15/2005 Senators John Kerry and Maria Cantwell Team Up to Fight Drilling for Oil in Arctic Refuge
03/14/2005 Kerry, Cantwell Fight Arctic Drilling
03/11/2005 Statement of the National Association of Public Hospitals and Health Systems in Support of the “Kids Come First Act of 2005” (S. 114)
03/11/2005 Statement from Edward J. McElroy, President, American Federation of Teachers, Supporting “Kids First Act of 2005”
03/11/2005 “Kids Come First Act” Addresses Medicaid Challenges Facing Children
03/11/2005 Vote Kids Lends Support to Kids First Bill:
03/11/2005 March of Dimes Supports “Kids Come First Act of 2005”
03/09/2005 John Kerry Announces Half-Million ‘Citizen Cosponsors’ Of KidsFirst Health Care Plan
03/09/2005 John Kerry grassroots press conference
03/09/2005 John Kerry on Bush's Energy Plan: "Americans Deserve Better"
03/08/2005 Kerry Organizes Grassroots Coalition Behind KidsFirst Act, Calls for Senate Action
03/08/2005 John Kerry on President Clinton
03/07/2005 Statement by John Kerry on John Bolton's Nomination to be Ambassador to the United Nations
03/03/2005 Kerry, Bipartisan Coalition Win 11th Hour Push to Save Boston Teacher from Deportation
03/02/2005 A Pioneer in Civil Rights
03/02/2005 Working to Strenthen the American Military
03/02/2005 Jackie Robinson to Receive Congressional Gold Medal
03/02/2005 Jackie Robinson Receives Congressional Gold Medal For His Civil Rights Work
02/28/2005 Our military needs a better ally at home
02/24/2005 John Kerry on U.S.-Russia Nuclear Agreement
02/17/2005 John Kerry Calls for Election Reform
02/16/2005 John Kerry on Climate Change:
02/15/2005 John Kerry: Military Families Must be Part of Supplemental
02/14/2005 John Kerry Says America Must Stand By Our Military
02/11/2005 Senator John Kerry to Discuss Strengthening America's Military at Annual Worcester Telegram & Gazette Visions Ceremony
02/09/2005 John Kerry on Medicare Costs Estimates and the Health Care Crisis in America
02/09/2005 Remarks by Senator John Kerry on Climate Change
02/08/2005 John Kerry to Address Climate Change at The Brookings
02/07/2005 Statement by John Kerry on the President’s Budget
02/03/2005 Statement by John Kerry on the Nomination of Alberto Gonzales for Attorney General
02/03/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Social Security
02/02/2005 Statement by John Kerry on State of the Union Address
01/31/2005 Statement by John Kerry on the President’s Budget
01/27/2005 Remarks by Senator John Kerry on Kids First to Families USA
01/27/2005 John Kerry Rallies Families USA to Fight for "Kids First"
01/27/2005 Senator John Kerry "Kids First"
01/26/2005 John Kerry’s “Kids Come First” Act
01/21/2005 THE ARCTIC NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE
01/19/2005 Senator John Kerry Opposes Nomination Of Dr. Condoleezza Rice for Secretary of State
01/16/2005 Senator John Kerry Statement on Martin Luther King, Jr.
01/16/2005 Statement of Senator John Kerry
01/16/2005 Statement of Senator John Kerry
01/14/2005 STANDING BY OUR TROOPS AND MILITARY FAMILIES
01/06/2005 Statement by Senator Kerry on the Nomination of Alberto Gonzales for Attorney General
01/05/2005 Senator Kerry Statement on the Congressional Certification of Electoral College Results
12/10/2004 John Kerry Calls on Rumsfeld to Investigate Why Troops Lack
12/08/2004 Senator John Kerry’s Statement on Election Reform
12/08/2004 Senator John Kerry’s Statement on Energy Report
12/08/2004 Senator John Kerry’s Statement on Intelligence Reform
12/08/2004 Senator John Kerry’s Statement on Intelligence Reform
11/24/2004 Senator John Kerry’s Statement on Energy Report
11/24/2004 LAWMAKERS ANNOUNCE NEW FUNDS FOR U MASS DARTMOUTH PROGRAMS THAT BENEFIT SOUTHEASTERN MASSACHUSETTS
11/23/2004 LAWMAKERS ANNOUNCE FUNDS FOR NEW BEDFORD
11/23/2004 KERRY, KENNEDY, DELAHUNT SECURE $700,000 FOR PLIMOTH PLANTATION EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS:
11/23/2004 Congressman Capuano, Senators Kennedy and Kerry Secure $5 Million for Somerville Projects
11/23/2004 KENNEDY, KERRY, DELAHUNT SECURE $700,000 FOR PLIMOTH PLANTATION EDUCATIONAL
11/23/2004 KENNEDY, KERRY, DELAHUNT ANNOUNCE $500,000 FOR MARTHA’S VINEYARD HOSPITAL
11/23/2004 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ANNOUNCE FINAL PHASE OF SNESL IMMIGRATION LAW CLINIC
11/23/2004 KERRY, KENNEDY AND FRANK ANNOUNCE FUNDING TO COMPLETE ROUTE 106 REHABILITATION
11/23/2004 KERRY, KENNEDY, MCGOVERN AND FRANK ANNOUNCE NEW FUNDING FOR FALL RIVER
11/23/2004 Kennedy, Kerry and Capuano Secure Millions for Important Cambridge
11/23/2004 KENNEDY, KERRY & DELAHUNT DELIVER $1 MILLION TO FIGHT CANCER
11/23/2004 KERRY, KENNEDY AND LYNCH ANNOUNCE $1.5 MILLION IN FEDERAL FUNDING FOR BROCKTON PRIORITIES:
11/23/2004 KENNEDY, KERRY, CAPUANO, LYNCH AND MARKEY ANNOUNCE FEDERAL ASSISTANCE FOR THE GREATER BOSTON AREA
11/23/2004 KENNEDY, KERRY, & LYNCH ANNOUNCE $200,000 IN FEDERAL FUNDING TO IMPROVE DRINKING WATER IN BRAINTREE, HOLBROOK AND RANDOLPH
11/22/2004 Kerry Gets Unfair Tariffs Lifted:
11/22/2004 KERRY, KENNEDY AND Markey Secure $9.23 Million for Projects in the 7th District of Massachusetts
11/22/2004 KERRY, KENNEDY AND MCGOVERN ANNOUNCE OVER $3.2 MILLION FOR WORCESTER AREA
11/22/2004 KERRY, KENNEDY AND OLVER ANNOUNCE NEARLY $2.4 MILLION FOR UMA
11/22/2004 KERRY, KENNEDY AND TIERNEY ANNOUNCE $550,000 FOR NORTH SHORE COMMUNITY
11/22/2004 KERRY, KENNEDY, OLVER AND NEAL ANNOUNCE $37 MILLION IN FEDERAL ASSISTANCE FOR WESTERN
11/22/2004 KERRY, KENNEDY AND TIERNEY SECURE $900,000 FOR ESSEX NATIONAL HERITAGE
11/22/2004 Kerry, Kennedy and McGovern ANNOUNCE OVER $4 MILLION FOR ATTLEBORO, FRANKLIN AND SEEKONK
11/22/2004 KERRY, KENNEDY, OLVER AND NEAL ANNOUNCE $750,000 FOR CONNECTICUT RIVER
11/19/2004 Senators Edward M. Kennedy and John F. Kerry Announce Their Opposition to the Proposed LNG Facility for Fall River in a letter to FERC
11/19/2004 Kerry Statement on Increase in Debt Limit
11/17/2004 Kerry Fights to Restore Fiscal Responsibility
http://kerry.senate.gov/v3/cfm/press-statement.cfm


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all those worthless things.

:sarcasm:

:eyes:

:banghead:

:argh:

who'd produce paradise with all the bells and whistles, and do it overnight.

I am pretty sure that Kerry is quite busy and he participates in lots of events.
The problem is, this is not what political leader of this level is supposed to produce.

getting it right before accusing someone of something. it appears to be a popular thing to do with John Kerry.

Day after day after day after day. They eventually got it right. They even reported when Fitz got his shoes shined. They are SOOOOOOOOOOO on top of things....

and i understand why kerry felt the need to qualify what he told miller via that spokesperson. not a big deal, imho, because the GAO report pretty much clear up the question: the election was stolen.

tend to say more pedantically, "nutshell".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=273&topic_id=48038&mesg_id=48084



Look at the thread to see the context. (bashers, take note - that is the supporters' forum.)

Oh, wait...that isn't the conversation that's at issue here... This one was actually on tape.

Kerry's sister invited Miller to a fundraiser party.

Miller approached Kerry to give him a copy of his book.

Miller exclaimed to Kerry "Senator, the election was stolen"

Kerry replied "I know!" and commenced to talking about what he is trying to do election reform (remember he co-sponsored a bill) and what resistance he has gotten.

It strikes me as a bit of party chat, where Kerry was relaxed and not in "reporter" mode, responding to a bit of hyperbole from Miller, or what he may have taken as such.

It was not an interview by any stretch, and it doesn't appear that Kerry said, as Miller claimes, as in the words came out of his mouth "I know the election was stolen from me."

What is this "Page Six"?

... Kerry allegedly responded "I know." to Miller's comment "You were robbed!" (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5264692)


During the course of their very brief encounter, Miller does not state that either he or Kerry made the statement, "The election was stolen." Yet Miller felt free to publicly (mis)interpret Kerry's alleged agreement w/the statement "You were robbed" as Kerry now believing the election was stolen.

IMO, it would appear that Miller is twisting Kerry's alleged agreement w/his (Miller's) comment ("You were robbed!") during a brief encounter into something that it was not (the election was stolen), possibly to further his (Miller's) own agenda, whatever it may be.

Kerry is capable of speaking for himself and does speak for himself... I'll listen to & evaluate his own words... not some third party who has neither the authority nor the consent to speak for or represent him.

It looks like Kerry's spokesperson was right to rebut Miller, and was quite swift about it. After folks bitched at Kerry for the delay in dealing with the Smear vets, you'd think a swift response would be seen as a GOOD thing.

I have no sympathy for Miller or his crying about Kerry's "despicable" denial of what went on. If you're going to twist an encounter to fit your own agenda, you ask for it.

It appears that, whether intentional or not, Miller may have let his personal beliefs shape his perspective on his brief encounter w/Kerry... resulting in a misrepresentation of the encounter. Perhaps he was hoping his version of the encounter would be perceived by the public as Kerry's endorsing the book?

Whatever Miller's reasons, his version of the encounter was dishonest, and that is despicable.

It can mean that lies were spread to discredit you, and dissuade likely voters.

It can mean that onerous methodologies were used to prevent people from voting.

It can mean votes were gamed/changed...

It can mean a lot of things.

... he perceived Miller's meaning to be. If Miller had conducted a legitimate, on-the-record interview, perhaps distortions, misperceptions, and misrepresentations might not have occurred, as statements could have been clarified.

A composite summary of some recent posts:

Asolutemente! Kerry won the election, and now he's trying to lose it again.

Mark said, Kerry said....but Rawstory said that a Kerry spokesperson said that Kerry didn't say what Mark said Kerry said.

Bush was really vulnerable; the election shouldn't have been close enough to be stolen. Gore, however, did great and is now standing up for us.

:wtf:

Opinions are like a**holes, the stinky ones smell up the place.

Find me a person who out votes Kerry on progressive issues (not one---all), who works as hard as he does to promote these issues and who is capable of getting the votes of more than 59 million Americans, and I'd love to see him or her as Kerry's running mate in 2008.

(not one---all), who works as hard as he does to promote these issues and who is capable of getting the votes of more than 59 million Americans, and I'd love to see him or her as Kerry's running mate in 2008".

A classical riposte, rebuttal, repudiation and all-round demolition of all the nonsense.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

:hi:

NO ONE here KNOWS what was said.

This is not about him - he doesn't have the luxury of standing 'behind" on this one. The spokesman possible fiasco would just be the cherry on top.
My teacup runneth over.

I will never vote for Kerry again. I don't know what choice we will have but I can't live through that heartache again!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2224678&mesg_id=2224678

Have your Senators cosponsored this bill? If not, are you bugging them to sign on?

Just like he didn't 10s of millions in campaign funds...


He's all about his future, at our expense. We gave 100% he gave us 80%.

MILLER FIRST!

I'LL PAY!

turned into "John Kerry said he now believes that the fraud happened and he should have won"

He misrepresented party chat as some big revelation.

I would have preferred a formal interview, thanks. That little chat was SO open to interpretation.

and Kerry should never talk to him again.


I would like to know the truth. What the hell is going on.

cut-and-dried little scenario?

used

;)

nov 3rd. i can swear there was just a very small group of people on this board that felt the election was stolen adn kerry had very LITTLE support to not concede. further i think it was the non kerry likers that didnt support election stolen adn instead said he lost because he ran a poor campaign. now i see the kerry non supporters say kerry wussed and conceded to soon because he won AND he ran a poor campaign, even though he didnt lose

how many of you now jumping kerry's ass suported election fraud nov 3rd. cause i didnt hear you voice on the 3rd

besides, if some people didn't realize it then, it's mostly kerry's fault for not making it an issue like Gore did. His rapid concession helped BFEE and MSM to hide the theft.

thru out the threads without any substance in a single post of yours. i have yet to respond to a single of your posts. they are so empty, a waste of time. whatever

Stick together People!!!!!

But I sure knew the election was stolen.

He was the most pathetic excuse for a candidate. I had to hold my nose to vote for him. At least Edwards was ready to rumble. And I'm not an Edwards fan, either.

Not an Edwards fan either. Hmmmmm.........

Thank you!