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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:14 AM
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"The Last Abortion Clinic"
Scheduled 'Frontline' topic scheduled to air 11/08/05.

This November, the Supreme Court will take up its first major abortion case in five years: Ayotte v. Planned Parenthood of Northern New England. This case will come before a changed court. But for Betty Thompson, a former abortion clinic director in Jackson, Mississippi, the concern is less about Ayotte and more that Roe v. Wade is simply becoming irrelevant as states pass hundreds of abortion regulations across the United States. " are going to chip away at Roe v. Wade until the law is on the books, but nobody will be able to access the service," she tells FRONTLINE. According to one abortion provider in the South, who prefers to remain anonymous: "The assault on abortion rights is very clever. It's very smart. And we are losing."

In the last two years, Mississippi has passed legislation on fetal homicide prosecution, new clinic regulations, requirements to report abortion complications, rights of conscience, and a law that would prohibit the state's last abortion clinic from offering abortions beyond the first trimester. Americans United for Life (AUL), the nation's oldest national pro-life organization, refers to this as the "Mississippi Miracle." "We're sending a very clear message that we do want to protect the unborn," says Lt. Gov. Amy Tuck. "That's why we've passed the legislation that we have, and it's passed overwhelmingly. It's bipartisan support. It's Democrats and Republicans. ... It's the House of Representatives and the Senate. Mississippi is truly pro-life."

With an ever-increasing number of state abortion regulations and a steady decline in abortion providers, the procedure, while still legal, has become daunting and expensive in many states. In Mississippi, Medicaid offers support for women seeking to continue with an unintended pregnancy, but no state funds or facilities may be used for abortion services. In the last decade, all but one clinic providing pregnancy terminations in the state have closed. The last abortion clinic, in Jackson, is difficult to access for women outside the capital who do not own a car, who have limited funds for gas or who cannot easily take time off from work or child care responsibilities. "It's like even before Roe v. Wade for these poor women," says Pat White, a nurse-midwife who has been working in the Mississippi Delta for decades. "We are making decisions for them. These women have no option except to continue with the pregnancy, whether they can afford it, or whether or not it's wanted, or whether or not they can emotionally provide for the child."

But Americans United for Life considers Mississippi an example for the nation. In fact, the organization's motto is "Changing Law to Protect Human Life, State by State." "Mississippi has an impressive track record," AUL senior legal counsel Clarke Forsythe tells FRONTLINE. "Our goal is to see that other states pass the type of legislation that Mississippi has passed over the past decade, and we see a lot of legislative activity. Legislators and governors across the country in many different states are looking at the same type of common sense legislation that Mississippi has passed."


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/clinic/#press
(this is the press release page)


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/
('Frontline' homepage)

Scheduled for 11/22/05: "The Storm"

Nov. 22, 2005 at 9pm (scheduled air date)

In the wake of Hurricane Katrina, FRONTLINE will produce a documentary special that investigates the political storm surrounding the devastation of America's Gulf Coast. Veteran FRONTLINE producer/reporter Martin Smith will lead a team to ask hard questions about the decisions leading up to the disaster and beyond.


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mestup Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:18 AM
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1. Thanks for the heads-up
http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/yourstate/whodecides/states/index.cfm
 
Click on any State
Example: Kansas
"96 percent of Kansas counties have no abortion provider"

Ah...the evil liberals and their on-demand abortions.
:sarcasm:
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:40 AM
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7. 96% of KS counties have almost no one living in them.
I think it is about 80% of the population living in the KC/Wichita/Topeka-Lawrence areas.
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mestup Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:56 AM
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14. LOL! Good point. (Shoulda used another example.)
Here's Georgia:
"94 percent of Georgia counties have no abortion provider"
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:40 AM
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8. This is a nice chart
http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/yourstate/whodecides/maps/abortion_bans.cfm

Where are you seeing the number of counties that do not have an abortionist?
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:26 AM
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2.  I see women are being enslaved in Mississippi.
"...common sense legislation..." And what services R being offered 2 support that woman AFTER she is FORCED 2 bear the child of an unwanted pregnancy or a child w/ severe brain disorders??? What is done 2 support the child who grows up ignored, maybe abused w/little or no self esteem? Hope someone is doing a life study on these unfortunate children.

What a f*cking disaster these states are.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:29 AM
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3. Thanks for telling about this
Edited on Mon Nov-07-05 12:29 AM by FreedomAngel82
All these "pro-life" people are nothing more than selfish. They don't care about the unborn. If they did they wouldn't vote for the policies of those "republicans" like Bush who do nothing for life. :mad: And I'm sure they don't care about rape, incest or a medical issue either with pregnancy. :mad: Being "pro-life" is more than "saving the babies". It's about caring about life which they don't care about.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:32 AM
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4. I've said this before
That the backlash against the Republican Party when R vs. W is overturned will be limited. People expecting a tidal wave may instead find that instead it's more like a mild rain storm.

Why? Because in a post Roe vs. Wade world, well to do women from well off moderate Republican families will have the means to travel to a blue state or to Canada to get the procedure done where it is safe and legal. They will still have their Bush tax cuts and will only be mildly inconvenienced by the new laws, so they will stay Republican. The fact that poorer women without rich parents will be stuck having an unwanted child will just not be a priority with these people.

I've already started hearing cheery lines of "no big deal" or "it just goes back to the states" from nominally pro-choice Republicans from affluent backgrounds. In their upper-middle class mindset, they also say that "Oh, well women who live in red states where abortion is illegal can just go to blue states where it's still legal". Sure, no big deal. :eyes:
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lynch03 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:38 AM
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5. nt
Edited on Mon Nov-07-05 12:42 AM by lynch03
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:39 AM
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6. We will have to raise money for a "travel pool" so that all women
Edited on Mon Nov-07-05 12:39 AM by Gloria
can get transportation and fees paid. "Rescue" ....if it can be done for dogs, it can be done for women, right??? RIGHT?????????

I am so pissed off. I won't be watching this program, it will upset me too much. I've been marching since the Reagan years....and our "leaders" have let it all get frittered away because the are appeasers.

If Dems don't fight Alito, I am seriously considering dropping out--totally. Biden today really pissed me off....
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:41 AM
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9. You are right
There will need to be a "social service" wing for the pro-choice movement to perform these functions, as you said, although I suspect red states will pass addtional laws restricting the rights of minors to cross state lines to get abortions.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:45 AM
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12. Then it goes underground....false ID's etc. ... terrible, a doctor in
an article I read says she can't belive women are going to third world status in this country...

Neither can I...
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:42 AM
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10. Thanks for trying. I wish more at this site listened to us.
Edited on Mon Nov-07-05 12:43 AM by BlueIris
The "no big deal" attitude toward the real possibility of the elimination of abortion rights in Red States even if Roe is preserved is WAY off base, especially from the Left and far, far too many allegedly enlightened people I know. People also need to look seriously at the other consequences of restricted access to legalized abortion in America or other restrictions on reproductive freedoms beyond the "women without rich parents will be stuck having an unwanted child." Women will kill themselves, destroy their health, endanger their lives. I get that the point of your post is that Republicans (and so-called non-Republicans) simply aren't thinking about ANY of the consequences, but it really bothers me when no wonder looks at the egregiousness of everything else restrictions to choice do to women and those who claim to love them.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:43 AM
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11. It will be a big deal
And I think it will be the end of the republican party too if they do that. They'll never want to get rid of Roe V Wade because 60-70% of the country is for keeping Roe V Wade. I think they'd never try to get rid of it because what else would they run on??
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:49 AM
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13. It will be a big deal ONLY if there are leaders willing to MAKE IT a big
deal! And who might that be??? Democrats??? Hillary? Who? Our "leaders" are already signaling backing off on this freak Alito--Biden mouthing off all over national TV.

Then it goes to the states. Every state will have strong leaders in the fight?? In the same states that are passing restrictions all over the place?? Even in California, a sneak attack parental notification initiative could win??
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 01:01 AM
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15. Freak is right!
:puke:

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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 08:02 PM
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16. Bump for the Monday crowd....
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