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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:01 PM
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I love John Edwards.
I think I posted this last week.

Just finished watching him with Tweety.

Damn!

This guy is goooooood.
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mdvet Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:02 PM
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1. do i hear wedding bells :)
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:06 PM
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5. Hey, I'm married to a wonderful guy. But John Reid rolls my socks.
I think he would be a historic President.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:03 PM
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2. "You're are only hope Obi Wan'
That phrase runs through my head when I see him.

Important to remember that it took Luke, Lea, Han, and all the rest to get the job done.
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rootvg Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:17 PM
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9. Yeah, But...
...John Edwards doesn't look at all like Alec Guinness!

(sound of breathing through hands placed my face)

"The force is strong in that one..."

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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:22 PM
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10. Yeah. But I feel a little like Leia, typing into my R2D2...
...trying to send out a message to someon to save us from the Dark Lord of the Sith.
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Flying_Pig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:05 PM
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3. Oh please....
:puke:
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:07 PM
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6. Yea, only Dean supporters can show
enthusiasm for their candidate! Otherwise, it is unseemly.

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uberotto Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:15 PM
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7. Exactly...
You people act like these rules are hard to understand or something.
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childslibrarian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:05 PM
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4. He better watch out for the people in his own state
I have relatives in NC and they report being angry at Edwards for leaving after only being a senator for 4 years. Seems they feel he is too ambitious with too little experience...
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:15 PM
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8. People in SC seem not to mind.
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:28 PM
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12. John Edwards rocks ! And you are right about SC ... we love him here
Edited on Mon Oct-13-03 07:28 PM by SayitAintSo
I do believe he's the "real deal".... and an added bonus ....he's eye candy... :)
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:39 PM
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13. you mean 6 years
he's going to serve his term, and with his name at the top of the democratic ticket we can hold the seat for Bowles or Dan Blue
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:44 PM
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15. speaking from a hole here in NC
do you want him?
or maybe the folks in the following thread down south a bit,
take him,
please?

dp
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Liberal_Andy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:46 AM
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28. the dems here (in NC) love him!
the ones who are angry with him are repugs!
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GR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:27 PM
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11. Sorry I Thought He Was Awful...Handsome But Awful...
In the first five minutes he said he supported Bush's decision to go into Iraq w/o U.N. approval.

He also couldn't think of a favorite movie and had no favorite philosophers. Not a deep thinker...but of course deeper than Bush...but who isn't.

I think he should drop out immediately...
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:43 PM
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14. Handsome AND wonderful.
No favorite movie - big effing deal.

Favorite philosophers - been there, did that.

John Edwards is working on a game plan to save America. F*** this bullshi**.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:46 PM
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16. Apparently , he wasn't so sure of the model car he drove when asked
Edited on Mon Oct-13-03 07:59 PM by AP
a couple months ago. I find that refreshing. He works hard. Not concerned with material things. How many lawyers or doctors do you know who don't know what kind of car they drive.

I think more Americans are going to relate to the fact that he doesn't have a favoirte philosopher. I'll go out on a limb, but I'm going to guess that there are fewer than 500,000 Americans who have a favorite philosopher.

I'll admit that it was nice to have a well-read, Rhodes Scholar as president, but I think Edwards will be a produce a nice synthesis to the thesis (Clinton) and anithesis (Bush) that preceded. I think voters are going to relate.
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:53 PM
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17. John certainly won't learn from history, and has no hindsight
After reaffirming his choice to go to war, and defending the decision to toss the UN and go it alone, he holds that even in light of the faulty intelligence this was the right thing to do.

Faulty intelligence is a sugar coated excuse for the administration's repeatedly and grotesquely told lies of what constitutes a threat to the US, and who is doing the threatening.

I cannot tolerate Edwards blindness to the facts as he scurries to take a Republican position on US national security. In the face of the bombastic right throwing patriotism in our faces, and calling us traitors because we don't want to see tens of thousands of innocent people die because of our ignorant and lying administration, we need leadership that is willing to stand up to the lies and stupidity and challenge the premise, the distortion of facts, and the course that we should take.

The actions of the Bush administration are threatening our national security far more than Saddam ever did. We are sinking into the abyss of strike/counterstrike with an ever-increasing world population that detests our government. Our economic existence is being obliterated by policies that will require us to spend more and more of our taxes on rebuilding countries we have reduced to rubble, and fighting off the terrorists that this creates.

While the administration and the Republican Party have framed the national consciousness in terms of defense and security, our economy is being stripped of its ability to create jobs. Our industry has been exported to cheap labor countries, and we have taken the first step of moving all high skill high wage jobs to these same countries. Within 10 years, the jobs in this country will be centered on merchandizing and healthcare, and we will have no competitive industry that can create wealth through export.

This combined with a massively escalating need to fuel military expenditures spell doom for our way of life. John Edwards is voicing opinions and ideology that make him a continuation of the problem, and nowhere near a solution.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 08:21 PM
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21. It's not a republican position
Edited on Mon Oct-13-03 08:24 PM by Bombtrack
supporting regime change isn't parallel to party identification.

I'm sure that people like Jonathan Alter, Timothy Noah, Michael Kinsly, Chris Hitchens, Fareed Zakaria, Tom Friedman, Paul Berman, Mitchell Cohen , Dave Remnick and Tony Blair would be surprised to learn that they are republicans.

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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 08:38 PM
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22. I'm sure they would be surprised
to find out they are Republicans. I am not familiar with several of these people, but Noah, Kinsley, Hitchens, Blair, and Friedman all have articulated postions that are shared with the Republicans, and they would not be surpised by that.

Edwards view that Saddam represented a grave threat to the national security interests of the US is a Republican position. Unfortunately, it was also a Democrat position until some of the cowardly lions realized there was discontent in the homeland and they could now offer an alternate view and be heard over the Republican screams of traitor.

In light of the disclosures of the lies on WMD, holding on to the Republican position is indefensible.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 08:45 PM
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24. So would FDR.
The far left of the party objected to FDR getting involved in WWII.
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 08:52 PM
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25. Republicans called it "Roosevelt's War"
and did so with disdain, so I guess the far left of the party and the Republicans were in agreement on that. What is your point?

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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:50 AM
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29. Liberal internationalism is one of the hardest things to achieve
in American politics. Wilson, FDR, Truman, and WJC all experience resistance to the notion.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:55 PM
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18. And he's cute
n/t.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 08:02 PM
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19. Yes he is.
I haven't been an Edwards fan. He was impressive. I especially like the way he turns "class warfare" in it's head.

We need to do this and none of the others so far have shown quite touch for it that Edwards has.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 08:12 PM
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20. "This guy is goooooood."
As long as you are AB (able bodied)!

It upsets me tremendously when someone fawns all over a candidate that in essense said, fuck the disabled w/a vote he had been begged to vote against.

There was absolutely no reason for his vote. He voted against me and my fellow disabled. He will never get my vote.

Furthermore, I was born in N.C., still have family and friends there and they are not pleased w/him. He has not listened to his constinuents and will have a tough time winning his own state.

Screw him.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 08:43 PM
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23. For twenty years his career was all about helping the disabled
and you reduce an entire career to a single vote on a judge at a time when the Democrats are trying not to be accused of being obstructionists on appointments of judges so that they have a ton of legitimacy when they stand tall on a couple, like that last one.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 09:09 PM
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26. Bullshit!
Edwards more than knew what that vote meant to millions of disabled people all across the country. At a time when the ADA is being watered down to almost non-existence, voting to give a misogynistic, racist, anti-disabled judge a lifetime appointment was hardly trying to be an un-obstructionist.

Hiding out in his office across the hall until the vote was over, then asking if he could still vote, proves he had something to hide.

It wasn't a single vote. It was another and another and another vote against the disabled! Have you any idea what it's like to have to go to court to try to get people/businesses to comply w/the ADA when you have judges already against you before you wheel into court?

All of this and more was explained to Edwards months before the vote. It was explained by NOW, Justice for All and by my father who has lived his entire life in North Carolina.

But to top it all off, your golden boy has never once apologized for assissting to make millions of disabled people's lives more miserable.

Belittle that "single" vote all you like. But remember, you are belittling me and millions like me when you do!
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:51 AM
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30. He sure dedicated a lot of time and effort to helping
disabled people for a guy who has disdain for them.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:36 AM
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CoffeePlease1947 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:57 AM
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31. Clark/Edwards 2004
Would be the best looking ticket in history. Not to mention they would win the south and wipe out Bush & Co.

Mike
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