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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:48 PM
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MSNBC: 70% of Bush voters thought they HAD found WMD's in Iraq
Also that the hijackers had been Iraqis.

Tucker Carlson: "I don't know anyone who thought that - I find it hard to believe that people fell for that."

Tweety: "Those are the 'regular' people. The admin kept on putting the two together."

Guess this backs up our assertions that these people were all as dumb as a box of rocks.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:51 PM
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1. I know people who believe those things.
They either vote for Bush because of Guns, Gays and God or they are scared young people who don't ever read or hear real news. I spoke with a young Bush voter. They had NO idea that 15 of the hijackers were Sadui Arabian. :(
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:54 PM
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6. This is why
they put out their propoganda talking points. It's easy and sound byte material. Choas in any form is their best friend.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:52 PM
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2. I am surprised that these voters even knew who bush is.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:52 PM
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3. Right Wing Media
That's why.... duh! They fell for all the propaganda. It made them feel special to finally have Right Wing News, so they believed what they heard. Their stupidity and prejudice towards the fictitious "Left" made it that much easier for the pundits to lie to them.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:53 PM
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4. Oh brother
Tucker is the type of republican who blows where the wind blows. Plus, he's so annoying. Is he ADD or something? :shrug: Nothing against ADD or anything like that but I was just wondering. When he was on Bill Maher's show he would talk SO fast he would get ahead of himself.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:53 PM
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5. Bush said it himself: "You can fool some of the people all of the time,
and those are the ones you want to focus on".

I remember when he said that (prior to 9-11). I've since had lots of Republican acquaintances tell me it means nothing, because he was only joking.

But Bush thought that was a *funny* comment. That says a hell of alot about the guy, I'd say.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:54 PM
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7. It's probably 60% today.
:eyes:

Tweety's show was good today. He also said "If the American People would have known then what they do today, this administration would not have been able to sell the war."
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:55 PM
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8. I think they hear those lies in church. n/t
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:56 PM
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9. FAUX NEWS WATCHERS! That's what we get when that so-called news network
feeds nothing but WH PROPAGANDA! 70%???!!! OMG. That is just pathetic.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:56 PM
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10. Think back about how many times the MSM reported WMDs being found
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 07:59 PM by NNN0LHI
Then they would admit it was a mistake a week later. The WMD finds were always on the front page but the followup retraction article saying it was a mistake was usually found on page 39.

This happened 20 or 30 times? Maybe more?

Don
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:56 PM
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11. People believed their President
How much time do people have to research the truth? Most people are working full-time jobs, with family responsibilities on top of that. Many people are living paycheck to paycheck and are worried sick about what would happen if they got sick or lost their jobs. Many people are without health insurance. The repugs want people reduced to this level.
What we should be doing is broadcasting loud and clear how the * administration lied to these people. People should not have their trust so abused. Let's not castigate these people. Let's try to turn this around with a simple clear message about their lies and treachery.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:56 PM
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12. They found them... problem was that they were all falling
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wookie294 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:57 PM
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13. POLL: Republicans are wildly misinformed
Poll of Republicans....

– 75% of Republicans believe Iraq was providing substantial support to al Qaeda.

– 74% believe Bush favors including labor and environmental standards in agreements on trade.

– 72% believe Iraq had WMD or a program to develop them.

– 72% believe Bush supports the treaty banning landmines.

– 69% believe Bush supports the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty.

– 61% believe if Bush knew there were no WMD he would not have gone to war.

– 60% believe most experts believe Iraq was providing substantial support to al Qaeda.

– 58% believe the Duelfer report concluded that Iraq had either WMD or a major program to develop them.

– 57% believe that the majority of people in the world would prefer to see Bush reelected.

– 56% believe most experts think Iraq had WMD.

– 55% believe the 9/11 report concluded Iraq was providing substantial support to al Qaeda.

– 51% believe Bush supports the Kyoto treaty.

– 20% believe Iraq was directly involved in 9/11.

http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Iraq/IraqRealities_Oct04/IraqRealities%20Oct04%20rpt.pdf
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 08:01 PM
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14. Yup, read the PIPA report
This all started in 1988 when Ronald Reagan abolished the Fairness Doctrine. The Fairness Doctrine said that the airwaves belong to the public. They were public trust assets just like our air and water and that the broadcasters could be licensed to use them but only with the proviso that they use them to promote the public interest and to advance American democracy. They had to inform the public of issues of public import. They had to have the news hours. None of those networks wanted to show the news because it’s expensive, they lose money on it. They had to avoid corporate consolidation. They had to have local control and diversity of control. That was the requirement of the law since 1928.

Today as a result of the abolishment of that doctrine, six giant multi-national corporations now control all 14,000 radio stations in our country, almost all 6,000 TV stations and 80 percent of our newspapers, all of our billboards and now most of the Internet information services, so you have six guys who are dictating what Americans have as information and what we see as news.

The news departments have become corporate profit centers, they no longer have any obligation to benefit the public interests, their only obligation is to their shareholders and they fulfill that obligation by increasing viewer ship. How do you do that? Not by reporting the news that we need to hear in to make rational decisions in our democracy but rather by entertaining us, by appealing to the prurient interests that all of us have in the reptilian core of our brain for sex and celebrity gossip -- . So they give us Laci Peterson and Michael Jackson and Kobe Bryant and we’re today the best entertained and the least informed people on the face of the earth and this is a real threat to American democracy.

If you look at the PIPA Report and I’ve known this for many, many years because I do 40 speeches a year in red states Republican audiences and there is no difference. When people hear this message and what this White House is doing and the Gingrich Congress, there is no difference between the way Republicans react and the Democrats react except the Republicans come up afterwards and say, “Why haven’t we ever heard of this before? I say to them, “It’s because you’re watching Fox News and listening to Rush.”

And 80 percent of Republicans are just Democrats who don’t know what’s going on .


http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0916-27.htm
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wookie294 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 08:03 PM
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15. Congress needs to break-up the media aristocracy
after the Republicans are kicked out of Washington!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 08:06 PM
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16. Those are some of the saddest statistics I've seen. Appalling.
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