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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:53 PM
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Get your CA Special Election Results here
http://vote2005.ss.ca.gov/

Less than ten minutes till official results start appearing.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:55 PM
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1. OK here we go...
We know Diebold layed off in Virginia, but not in Ohio. What do you think are our chances?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:58 PM
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4. I'm really interested to see what and where they decided to
manipulate tonight.

They had to do Ohio, to protect Blackwell.

Let's see what else we can turn up.

(And meanwhile, NOTHING on cable, little on local)
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:08 PM
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11. My jury is still out as to why?
The way I have it figured is that it turned out that way for a reason and it is not because the people spoke.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:11 PM
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17. Maybe I'm paranoid, but tend to agree.
Since they let Shelley become toast, I've little trust in our state Dems, let alone in the GOP who wants to gobble up CA.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:08 PM
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12. I'm wondering and thinking the same here in California...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:09 PM
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14. I'm in the Paris of the Pacific
:hi:
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:12 PM
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20. Only close elections can be manipulated
Otherwise the manipulation would be obvious.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:22 PM
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44. Do you think so?
I wonder.

With enough propaganda and the right machines, I really wonder.

I mean, look at how long people were covinced that Chimp was popular?
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:24 AM
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173. Channel 4!
http://www.kron4.com/Global/category.asp?C=72171

good local coverage of SF / CAlifornia votes!
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:59 PM
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6. Arnie's going to get his ass handed to him tonight!
Keeping my fingers crossed though.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:19 PM
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36. Grope THIS, Arnie!
:rofl:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #36
55. Yeah! El Gran Grope!
:rofl:
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:56 PM
Response to Reply #55
103. Arnie is deeply devoted to Arnie, and he's welcome to get physical
with himself, and these sorts of things, as far as I'm concerned.

:)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:58 PM
Response to Reply #103
105. Well, it's a good thing he is, because CA and Austria are not.
:)
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #1
32. I'm nervous about the abortion one
the fundies went all out to hide what their real intent on this one is
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:56 PM
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2. The polls there do not close until 8PM?
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:56 PM
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3. Thanks
God, I'm nervous.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:58 PM
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5. Keeping kicked! (and fingers crossed) ....n/t
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:02 PM
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7. That Map Feature Is Boss!
Can't wait to check out my little part of the state.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:03 PM
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8. Kicked and watching!
Ahnold SUCKS.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:06 PM
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9. Okay, California
Let's do it!
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:08 PM
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10. I voted absentee.
Walked my ballot to the polling booth.

It was a human readable mark sense ballot. Totally auditable paper trail.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:10 PM
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16. I voted by absentee, too
I ended up taking to the election office. Optical scan. The county went touchscreen this year.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:09 PM
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13. 1st Results
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 11:10 PM by LeftCoast
2.8% ( 499 of 17657 ) precincts reporting as of Nov 8, 2005 at 8:05 pm

Statewide Returns County Returns | County Status

Propositions Yes Votes Pct. No Votes Pct.

73 Y Minor's Pregnancy 253,101 52.8 226,530 47.2 Map

74 Y Teacher Tenure 259,966 53.8 223,709 46.2 Map

75 Y Public Union Dues 282,726 58.5 200,745 41.5 Map

76 N Spending/Funding 223,422 46.3 258,258 53.7 Map

77 N Redistricting 231,739 48.7 244,048 51.3 Map

78 N Rx Drug Discounts 206,108 43.5 267,543 56.5 Map

79 N Rx Drug Rebates 183,739 38.9 288,096 61.1 Map

80 N Electric Regulation 169,175 36.5 294,304 63.5 Map




Y - Proposition is passing
N - Proposition is not passing
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:10 PM
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15. Here comes the results.
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 11:11 PM by longship
73 Y 52.8%
74 Y 53.8%
75 Y 58.5%

All the rest are NO.

Still too early to tell. 2.8% reporting.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. Heavily populated liberal counties aren't in yet
Couple of big red counties aren't it yet either...
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:12 PM
Response to Reply #15
19. Ugh!! Don't Scare Me...
Where are these precincts, Bakersfield?? COME ON L.A., COME ON SF!
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:13 PM
Response to Reply #19
23. Is no on the first 4 73,74,75,76 good?
I can't remember
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:14 PM
Response to Reply #23
26. 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78 ARE ARNIE NIGHTMARES!
NO NO NO NO NO!! Come on CA....
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #26
28. Thanks - looks like early results are Repuke angry bigots
Let's hope it gets better soon :D
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:12 PM
Response to Reply #15
21. 79 and 80 were the ones that the Democratic Party suggested
voting yes for. So far things don't look so good. But it is early.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:14 PM
Response to Reply #21
25. I guess there are RW murderer morons in Cali too
Damn those Satan worshipers!
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OhNoTheyDidNot Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:12 PM
Response to Reply #15
22. To early - to early - to early - to early must wait .........
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:13 PM
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24. Slight update - 8:10 PM
Propositions Yes Votes Pct. No Votes Pct.

73 Y Minor's Pregnancy 309,629 52.3 282,848 47.7 Map

74 Y Teacher Tenure 312,533 52.4 285,029 47.6 Map

75 Y Public Union Dues 341,048 57.1 256,273 42.9 Map

76 N Spending/Funding 266,184 44.7 329,147 55.3 Map

77 N Redistricting 278,858 47.3 309,524 52.7 Map

78 N Rx Drug Discounts 252,694 43.1 333,455 56.9 Map

79 N Rx Drug Rebates 225,611 38.6 357,967 61.4 Map

80 N Electric Regulation 207,836 36.2 364,741 63.8 Map


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Y - Proposition is passing
N - Proposition is not passing
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:16 PM
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27. Moving in the right direction.
That's better. Not looking good for 79/80, though.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:17 PM
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33. When People Are Confused, They Vote "No"
I didn't expect these to pass because they were so overshadowed by all the ads for the others.

I'll take 79 & 80 going down, though I voted for them, if 73-78 go down too!!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:17 PM
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31. if these propositions don't go down, this may be my last election
it is becoming evident that our state and country have become entities of special interests
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:42 PM
Response to Reply #31
86. We need you in the Election forum.
:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:30 PM
Response to Reply #24
60. If 75 passes, we'll know our elections are screwed.
Because NO ONE was behind that.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:16 PM
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29. Oh Jesus. 76-78 going our way. Everything else - not cool.
My county is as red as it gets. :puke:
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:18 PM
Original message
So far I'm very optimistic. The red counties aren't swinging heavy enough
to make up for the blue counties that will be coming in soon.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:20 PM
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39. I hope your right
are the people in California that stupid?
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:21 PM
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40. Ok - I'll keep my eye out. Lake County surprises me. Voting NO on 73!
Lake is pretty conservative.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:17 PM
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30. Dems want NO on 73, 74, 75, 76, 77
Just an FYI for those not up on the CA special election
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:21 PM
Response to Reply #30
42. And 78. Yes on only 79 and 80.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:18 PM
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34. My son(a high school senior) is working a poll at a retirement home
in Alameda county tonight. Can't wait to talk to him later about the voting machines and the turn out.

Sorry for bragging, just proud of my little democrat.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:37 PM
Response to Reply #34
79. I miss California so much...lived in SF...remember a great
Halloween Party in Alameda. Be proud of the little Dem! I am now back in Ohio...how can our Issues 2, 3, 4, and 5 fail so miserably.....just over the weekend, 2 and 3 were polling beautifully....4 was behind...and 5 was close. It reminds me of Georgia elections in '02. Totally rigged or I live in a state of stupid assholes....gee, what a choice.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #79
191. I can see why you miss it, feel that way about Oahu myself.
I hear Alameda is a cool town. We are down 880 from there a ways.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:18 PM
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35. Love the map thingy, check it out for sure n/t
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:19 PM
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37. LA Ain't In Yet
Watch us rock the state.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:20 PM
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38. 8:15 - Latest
I'll keep up the minute by minute updates for a little while

Propositions Yes Votes Pct. No Votes Pct.

73 Y Minor's Pregnancy 368,534 52.3 336,698 47.7 Map

74 Y Teacher Tenure 370,773 52.1 341,571 47.9 Map

75 Y Public Union Dues 403,901 56.8 308,275 43.2 Map

76 N Spending/Funding 317,362 44.6 393,343 55.4 Map

77 N Redistricting 334,202 47.5 368,829 52.5 Map

78 N Rx Drug Discounts 299,877 42.8 400,269 57.2 Map

79 N Rx Drug Rebates 264,980 38.0 432,227 62.0 Map

80 N Electric Regulation 245,081 35.7 439,798 64.3 Map
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:22 PM
Response to Reply #38
45. I'm a bit worried about 75 now....
Hope things turn around. Looking at the map, prop 75 has overall more support than a lot of the others. That may swing keep this one winning.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #45
51. 75 is the biggie for me
also 77
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:29 PM
Response to Reply #51
59. 75 is scary..I'm hoping, it doesn't look good...
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:34 PM
Response to Reply #45
70. If Californians pass 75
It's just spitting in the face of all the firefighters, nurses, and teachers. We will get what we deserve when union power is eviscerated.

This is pissing me off.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:37 PM
Response to Reply #70
78. It is starting to look like this whole election was to pass 75.
I hate Arnold I hate Diebold I hate Bush I hate Republicans!!!!!!
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:21 PM
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41. Another update
Propositions Yes Votes Pct. No Votes Pct.

73 Y Minor's Pregnancy 368,534 52.3 336,698 47.7
74 Y Teacher Tenure 370,773 52.1 341,571 47.9
75 Y Public Union Dues 403,901 56.8 308,275 43.2
76 N Spending/Funding 317,362 44.6 393,343 55.4
77 N Redistricting 334,202 47.5 368,829 52.5
78 N Rx Drug Discounts 299,877 42.8 400,269 57.2
79 N Rx Drug Rebates 264,980 38.0 432,227 62.0
80 N Electric Regulation 245,081 35.7 439,798 64.3

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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:21 PM
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43. Any Donna Frye results? Where?
?
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toymachines Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #43
49. nothing yet
i think its good, if jerry is ahead they would be blasting it.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:12 AM
Response to Reply #49
147. Absentee votes put Jerry ahead
But, then, they run more conservative.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:22 PM
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46. 700,000+++ votes in Alameda County and mostly democrat, still to count.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:23 PM
Response to Reply #46
48. don't San Francisco
or for that matter the Northern California
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:35 AM
Response to Reply #48
188. SFO county has lots too, thinking big population area not
yet reporting(8:15 time. Smaller rural areas are often in the valley and northern mountainous areas that tend to be repub areas and they seem to report earliest.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:23 PM
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47. Neither LA nor San Fran are in yet
so, the numbers look pretty good so far.

Votes are all from Central Valley and San Diego - these are results from conservative counties.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:28 PM
Response to Reply #47
58. Exactly.
That's the ace up our sleeve.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:31 PM
Response to Reply #47
64. The numbers do not resemble the will of the people of California
to this intuitive wacko -- conservative or liberal.

Ok, going to chew some glass for a while.
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desi826 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:24 PM
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50. I'm gonna be sick
They are going to mess with LA County votes, mark my words. They know this is where Arnold is MOST hated...especially LA city. That's why I was counting on the rest of the state to give a good foundation so maybe all we needed to do was tip the balance.
The Right's gonna get what they could never achieve on their own, here in CA, recriminilizing abortion.
And the Constitution is going to be changed before the women in this state even realize what they have lost.
Des
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #50
52. Ummm... didn't you vote punch ballot?
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desi826 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:32 PM
Response to Reply #52
66. Yeah
but LA County is the biggest fight he has. They have to do something to counter our votes.
He knows we'll be coming with the big smackdown.
I'm just praying the miracle continues, but if those props stay exactly as they are, with NO change, they were tampered with.
Des
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 01:03 AM
Response to Reply #52
210. Tallied with GEMS by Diebold, and no audit capability.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:25 PM
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53. Argh, stupid fundies! It looks like a yes on 73 so far...
:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr;
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:25 PM
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54. STEADY S.T.E.A.D.Y
this is early still
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:25 PM
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56. 8:20 - not much change
Propositions Yes Votes Pct. No Votes Pct.

73 Y Minor's Pregnancy 459,324 52.1 423,129 47.9 Map

74 Y Teacher Tenure 458,207 51.5 432,738 48.5 Map

75 Y Public Union Dues 498,170 56.0 392,459 44.0 Map

76 N Spending/Funding 390,171 43.8 498,614 56.2 Map

77 N Redistricting 411,035 46.7 468,361 53.3 Map

78 N Rx Drug Discounts 373,130 42.5 502,810 57.5 Map

79 N Rx Drug Rebates 331,141 37.9 541,328 62.1 Map

80 N Electric Regulation 305,231 35.5 552,283 64.5 Map
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:31 PM
Response to Reply #56
65. Hey thanks LeftCoast! eom
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:28 PM
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57. 8:25
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 11:31 PM by longship
Propositions Yes Votes Pct. No Votes Pct.

73 Y Minor's Pregnancy 694,164 52.9 619,174 47.1
74 Y Teacher Tenure 691,852 52.2 633,693 47.8
75 Y Public Union Dues 747,761 56.7 573,102 43.3
76 N Spending/Funding 589,768 44.6 732,241 55.4
77 N Redistricting 622,278 47.5 686,485 52.5
78 N Rx Drug Discounts 566,593 43.4 737,059 56.6
79 N Rx Drug Rebates 483,672 37.2 814,174 62.8
80 N Electric Regulation 440,928 34.5 834,078 65.5

7.2% reporting.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:30 PM
Response to Reply #57
61. Gawd, those three better turn around.
73 - Abortion issue
74 - Blame the teachers
75 - Corporate pol donations good; union pol donations bad
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:31 PM
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63. My god Arnie is gonna get to sielnce the unions, the damn
fucking bastard
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:34 PM
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69. if this is true it doesn't make sense
redistricting and spending funding should be winning also, if they are voting down the unions. Are the people in those counties that stupid.

They are also screwing the teachers
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:35 PM
Response to Reply #69
73. Lets see what happens, remember some sectrions of
San Diego county are very, VERY red
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:38 PM
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80. thanks
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:00 AM
Response to Reply #69
110. human nature
gotta have someone to hate, like teachers and state workers.

:-(
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:30 PM
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62. Are these precincts or absentee reporting?
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:32 PM
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67. I think it's projections based on early precinct returns
If you click down you can see the percentage of precincts 'in' from called counties is actually pretty low.

On a positive note, some HUGE democratic counties still need to be counted. I hope it's enough!!!
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:36 PM
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74. Yep ...... Los Angeles, Riverside, San Bernardino .....
I wouldn't be surprised to see it really turn in our favor here soon. Keep the faith. Peace. :)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:36 PM
Response to Reply #74
77. I am keeping it, trust me, but I need to go get me some tums
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:36 PM
Response to Reply #67
76. LA County: We're 7 Million Strong
Let the country folk have their moment.

Not a single LA vote is in yet.

Get ready, Arnold. We're about to kick your ass.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:38 PM
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83. A full 1/5 of the population should help QUITE a bit. nt
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:33 PM
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68. 8:30 update
Propositions Yes Votes Pct. No Votes Pct.

73 Y Minor's Pregnancy 694,785 52.9 619,902 47.1
74 Y Teacher Tenure 692,584 52.2 634,318 47.8
75 Y Public Union Dues 748,525 56.7 573,697 43.3
76 N Spending/Funding 590,391 44.6 732,973 55.4
77 N Redistricting 622,910 47.5 687,199 52.5
78 N Rx Drug Discounts 567,199 43.4 737,787 56.6
79 N Rx Drug Rebates 484,157 37.2 815,013 62.8
80 N Electric Regulation 441,338 34.5 834,975 65.5

7.7% precincts
reporting
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:35 PM
Response to Reply #68
71. LA and San Berdoo not reporting yet.
nt
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:39 PM
Response to Reply #71
84. Remember during the recall....
LA was one of the very last to report. That and Alameda County I think. Very smelly.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:35 PM
Response to Reply #68
72. Thanks!
:hi:

No major changes. I'm sweating 75. Ack.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:02 AM
Response to Reply #72
118. me too, leftcoast
75's my baby too.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:36 PM
Response to Reply #68
75. This is going to be a very long night
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:01 AM
Response to Reply #68
114. i'm waiting for those Y votes to turn N!
:scared:
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:38 PM
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81. Do you think the results will be in tonight?
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:38 PM
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82. 8:35 update
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 11:40 PM by longship
Propositions Yes Votes Pct. No Votes Pct.

73 Y Minor's Pregnancy 772,399 52.9 689,258 47.1
74 Y Teacher Tenure 767,175 52.1 707,852 47.9
75 Y Public Union Dues 827,430 56.3 642,835 43.7
76 N Spending/Funding 655,264 44.5 815,910 55.5
77 N Redistricting 692,805 47.5 763,447 52.5
78 N Rx Drug Discounts 630,746 43.4 819,507 56.6
79 N Rx Drug Rebates 538,140 37.2 905,941 62.8
80 N Electric Regulation 490,748 34.5 928,589 65.5

11.5% prec reporting

75 movin in the right direction, finally.
A few northern counties still have not reported. San Berdoo and LA still out.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:41 PM
Response to Reply #82
85. Humboldt, L.A. and Alameda Co.s not in yet. n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:42 PM
Response to Reply #85
87. Nerve racking I need 74 and 75 to fail
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:43 PM
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88. SF isn't in either
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #85
104. Alameda uses paperless touchscreen machines
:(
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:43 PM
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89. 8:40 update
Propositions Yes Votes Pct. No Votes Pct.

73 Y Minor's Pregnancy 790,689 53.0 701,720 47.0
74 Y Teacher Tenure 785,721 52.2 720,169 47.8
75 Y Public Union Dues 846,741 56.5 654,336 43.5
76 N Spending/Funding 671,432 44.7 830,450 55.3
77 N Redistricting 708,870 47.6 777,884 52.4
78 N Rx Drug Discounts 644,512 43.5 836,065 56.5
79 N Rx Drug Rebates 547,455 37.1 926,855 62.9
80 N Electric Regulation 499,179 34.4 949,743 65.6

11.9% prec reporting.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:44 PM
Response to Reply #89
90. Is it me or are they starting to close in
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:50 PM
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94. still no LA or SF
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:53 PM
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99. That's the question of tonight.
Or rather, yes, they are closing in. Tonight will show us how close they are.

F$ckheads.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:49 PM
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91. 8:45 update
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 11:49 PM by longship
Propositions Yes Votes Pct. No Votes Pct.
73 Y Minor's Pregnancy 792,217 52.9 705,566 47.1
74 Y Teacher Tenure 787,714 52.2 723,587 47.8
75 Y Public Union Dues 848,694 56.4 657,770 43.6
76 N Spending/Funding 672,214 44.5 835,066 55.5
77 N Redistricting 710,160 47.5 781,949 52.5
78 N Rx Drug Discounts 646,044 43.4 839,798 56.6
79 N Rx Drug Rebates 547,644 37.0 931,899 63.0
80 N Electric Regulation 498,663 34.2 955,369 65.8

12.1% reporting
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:50 PM
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93. does not look for 75 DAMN ARNOLD
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:55 PM
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100. This is the one that will tell us how screwed our elections are n/t
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:49 PM
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92. SF, LA, San Bernardino Counties: Not 1 Vote Counted Yet
Everybody cheer up!

They'll run the table and break Arnie's little rotten heart.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:51 PM
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95. I certainly hope you are right
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:51 PM
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96. Map for Prop 75 (Anti-Union)
Click for map
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:05 AM
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125. omg, it looks bad for us!
i'm shocked that sacramento county is going Y with all the state workers there....
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:06 AM
Response to Reply #96
128. It looks like NoCal is the only thing saving unions
WTF is wrong with my fellow Angelinos?
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:53 PM
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97. I checked out the counties that I know are blue
and they were "no" across the board. I'd give up 79 and 80 if we could smack down the rest.
As in, "fuck you, Arnie."
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:55 PM
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101. it will be much more complicated than that
I wonder why SFO and LAX are taking so long
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:58 PM
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107. Lot's of votes to count
Let's hope they go our way.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:53 PM
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98. 8:50 update
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 11:56 PM by longship
Propositions Yes Votes Pct. No Votes Pct.
73 Y Minor's Pregnancy 794,934 52.9 707,944 47.1
74 Y Teacher Tenure 790,254 52.2 726,181 47.8
75 Y Public Union Dues 851,373 56.4 660,190 43.6
76 N Spending/Funding 674,366 44.5 838,044 55.5
77 N Redistricting 712,377 47.5 784,865 52.5
78 N Rx Drug Discounts 648,118 43.4 842,779 56.6
79 N Rx Drug Rebates 549,486 37.0 935,140 63.0
80 N Electric Regulation 500,333 34.2 958,827 65.8

12.1% prec reporting

Most conservative internal counties have been reporting.
LA, San Berdoo, Contra Costa, San Joaquin, Santa Clara, Stanislaus not yet reporting.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:55 PM
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102. LA and SF don't have prelims posted yet - 8:57
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:58 PM
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106. We moved from OK/TX to CA in October '04
and live now North of Sacramento. Quite a few pro-Bush bumper stickers here when we first came. Now, we hardly see any. I guess they all scraped them off after they came to see that not Katrina but Bush was the natural disaster.

I hope that 73, 74, and 75 will also fail. :mad:
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:08 AM
Response to Reply #106
136. sacramento is not a blue county
unfortunately....and the outskirts are even redder.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:58 AM
Response to Reply #136
202. Yes...I was really surprised about that
but it is still better than Oklahoma and Texas. And, as I mentioned...a lot of the pro-Bush bumper stickers have disappeared...
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:58 PM
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108. 8:55 update
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 12:01 AM by longship
Propositions Yes Votes Pct. No Votes Pct.
73 Y Minor's Pregnancy 977,488 52.0 903,466 48.0
74 Y Teacher Tenure 970,102 51.1 928,555 48.9
75 Y Public Union Dues 1,040,526 55.1 851,026 44.9
76 N Spending/Funding 826,664 43.6 1,066,462 56.4
77 N Redistricting 875,048 46.6 999,577 53.4
78 N Rx Drug Discounts 808,279 43.2 1,058,659 56.8
79 N Rx Drug Rebates 706,563 38.0 1,150,907 62.0
80 N Electric Regulation 639,234 35.0 1,184,010 65.0

12.6% prec reporting.

75 making big move.
SF suburbs coming in. SF coming in. LA starting to report.

LA is 51% Yes on 75 (so far)
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:59 PM
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109. LA just came in Y on 75
I think 75 is going to win. :(
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:00 AM
Response to Reply #109
112. well the unions let this happen by electing bad leadership
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:02 AM
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119. Disagree. We let them take down Shelley. They tested us
to see how vulnerable we were. And, we caved.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:13 AM
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149. good point
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:01 AM
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113. Okay, we're screwed.
You ALL need to come help out in the election forum because these bastards are going after Big Casino, California.

We REALLY could use some help. It's not sexy, but most real things aren't.

Don't let them get away with it. :nuke:
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:01 AM
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115. Those Aren't Totals Are They???
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:07 AM
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134. I think these are just the early counted absentee ballots...
At least those counted in San Diego are the absentee ballots. We still have a long way to go. Not much more than a 10th of the votes have been counted. I've already noticed that prop 75 went from 56.8% to 55% now, so keep hope!
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fizana Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:04 AM
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123. I think that's absentee ballots only
LA still showing 0 precincts reporting. SF County has also barely reported any results either. I wouldn't write anything off just yet.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:00 AM
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111. 73 and 74 are looking better, but 75 is way behind
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:01 AM
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116. SF Rolling In
Check out those percentages!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:04 AM
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122. Thank you, San Francisco!
:grouphug:
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:06 AM
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129. Prediction: Not 1 Of Arnold's Props Will Win
Trust me on this.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:09 AM
Response to Reply #129
140. Your keyboard to the Election gods.
:)
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:07 AM
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132. Oh, it looks like it is turning around a bit on those first three...
...I just hope that there are enough votes left to count to smack that SOB Ah-nold hard in his smug fucking face!
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:01 AM
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117. Looks like this is going to be a decidedly mixed election
The worst ones have gone down to defeat, but some stinkers may have won.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:04 AM
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124. 13% reporting means 87% not reporting yet. Patience!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:05 AM
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126. I feel like that the dumb babysitter that left the front door open
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 12:06 AM by sfexpat2000
down stairs.

Let's see how we do.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:07 AM
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131. 73, 74 and 75 are horrific: and even with LA and SF they are winning
not good at all
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:08 AM
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137. LA has no precincts reporting, SF has 2.9%
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:11 AM
Response to Reply #137
145. Ok, I just saw that. Not so depressed yet.
:scared:
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:07 AM
Response to Reply #117
133. looks that way
California is more screwed up than ever. Excluding proposition 73, the inconsistency of 74 and 75 verses the other propositions tell me that the voters may not understand what they are doing
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:10 AM
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yes, state workers are fucked.....again
:grr: :mad:
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:04 AM
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120. 9:00 PST Update
Propositions Yes Votes Pct. No Votes Pct.
73 Y Minor's Pregnancy 995,123 52.0 920,170 48.0
74 Y Teacher Tenure 986,806 51.1 946,433 48.9
75 Y Public Union Dues 1,059,725 55.0 870,156 45.0
76 N Spending/Funding 839,840 43.5 1,087,893 56.5
77 N Redistricting 888,567 46.5 1,020,478 53.5
78 N Rx Drug Discounts 822,139 43.2 1,079,113 56.8
79 N Rx Drug Rebates 718,620 37.9 1,172,937 62.1
80 N Electric Regulation 649,893 35.0 1,206,735 65.0

13.0% prec reporting. Precs coming in slowly.

Note: Plenty of votes yet to come from LA and other urban areas.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:04 AM
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121. I dont understand the union dues vote.
Why is that the popular one?
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:06 AM
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127. I may be wrong here, but I suspect it is more a desire to get ALL $ out
of politics. Look forward to seeing a proposition in the next election that will do the same thing as 75, except to the corporations. From what I can remember that proposition (if it gets on the ballot) will make corps have a vote of the shareholders to ok any political donation!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:08 AM
Response to Reply #127
138. I understand, and perhaps agree, but unless you do both
it would give one side an unfair advantage, and to hit the unions and NOT the corporations says everything
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:10 AM
Response to Reply #127
142. Yeah right, when pigs fly
they want to silence the unions, bu the way the UNIONS ALREADY had that option for their members to say no to dues used for political causes... Sorry, I am not buying...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:17 AM
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156. Nope. I agree.
This is the one they had to manipulate to put the fear of God into the unions.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:07 AM
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130. Still no movement on SF or LA
hopefully they can turn 75 around.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:07 AM
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135. LA's Not Even Showing ANY Precincts Counted!!
They have some votes posted, but not showing precincts yet!

I'm still holding out for 75, but then what do I know... I'm in Florida!
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:13 AM
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148. Just absentee ballots
And San Fran still has much more to come
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:17 AM
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157. Many Have More To Come!
I may have to "conk" before too long, but it's still soooooooo early from what I see.

I'll try to hang til about 2:00 AM, last night I was up til 3:00 AM! Politics.... not good for sleeping!
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:09 AM
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139. 9:05 PST Update
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 12:10 AM by longship
Propositions Yes Votes Pct. No Votes Pct.
73 Y Minor's Pregnancy 1,064,737 51.5 1,005,222 48.5
74 Y Teacher Tenure 1,059,833 50.8 1,028,819 49.2
75 Y Public Union Dues 1,137,693 54.6 946,769 45.4
76 N Spending/Funding 899,866 43.2 1,183,015 56.8
77 N Redistricting 953,728 46.2 1,109,472 53.8
78 N Rx Drug Discounts 885,197 43.0 1,169,465 57.0
79 N Rx Drug Rebates 777,623 38.0 1,264,769 62.0
80 N Electric Regulation 699,519 34.8 1,305,201 65.2

15.9% prec reporting. Finally some votes coming in in bigger numbers.

73, 74, 75 making a move.

San Berdoo still not reporting.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:10 AM
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143. tightening
That's good.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:11 AM
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146. Still nothing from LA and only 2.9% from SF
so things can still turn around. 75 is still a tough one.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:13 AM
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150. 75 is getting closer
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:10 AM
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141. Are there constitutional issues with 75?
Like it might be challenged and overturned? Y'all know how they write these props and they get overturned as soon as they hit the courts. Is that possible with 75?!

I'm begging someone to tell me yes.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:11 AM
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144. I hope, freedom of speech
the same issue the corps use
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:14 AM
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151. 9:10 PST Update
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 12:15 AM by longship
Propositions Yes Votes Pct. No Votes Pct.
73 Y Minor's Pregnancy 1,116,509 51.3 1,062,279 48.7
74 Y Teacher Tenure 1,109,384 50.5 1,088,762 49.5
75 Y Public Union Dues 1,190,910 54.3 1,002,924 45.7
76 N Spending/Funding 940,495 42.9 1,251,534 57.1
77 N Redistricting 999,186 46.0 1,172,494 54.0
78 N Rx Drug Discounts 929,593 42.9 1,233,003 57.1
79 N Rx Drug Rebates 819,885 38.1 1,329,059 61.9
80 N Electric Regulation 737,031 34.9 1,372,637 65.1

17.5% prec reporting.

73, 74, 75 still moving in the right direction. Plenty of votes are still out there.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:15 AM
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152. 73 and 75 are tightening
good news. still 2.9% SF and No LA.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:16 AM
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154. Even without LA!
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:18 AM
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159. Tightening BIG time...
Still no LA or Alameda....
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:15 AM
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153. They've Only Counted The Chump Change
LA, SF, San Bernardino. They ain't in yet. For Arnie's garbage to be where it is right now is a disaster for him.

Watch. Believe. Things will change radically in the next couple of hours.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:17 AM
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155. Alameda and LA still haven't reported...
..I agree that things will radically change in the next few hours...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:18 AM
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158. trust me I have to hope
this is gonna be a very long night
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:22 AM
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167. I Think It's Going To Be Okay... I See Some Tightening!
But I'll have to duck out for some zzzzzzzzz's in a couple of hours! Bummer!

Three hour lead time here on the East Coast!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:19 AM
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162. LA is showing 0% precincts, but they've already counted 100's of thousands
of votes from there.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:20 AM
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164. We're making progress with each report.... nt
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:24 AM
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170. Take a look at those numbers again...
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 12:24 AM by truebrit71
..I think those are the absentee numbers...remember that each voter theoretically voted on all the issues, so if you have 8 propositions, each with 100,000 votes cast, it means that EACH issue got those votes individually, NOT cumulatively, ie it means that there are 100,000 votes counted 1 time on 8 issues, NOT 800,000 votes in total...
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:34 AM
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187. I'm looking at a spreadsheet of each proposition, and there are
well over 300,000 votes cast in each. You could be right that they are absentee, though.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:18 AM
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160. I think they're going to grab 75. And hope I'm wrong. n/t
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:21 AM
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165. I hope you are too
I saw so many no on 75 bumper stickers and yard signs around here that I just can't believe it would pass. I mean, who would be for it except groper's corporate pals?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:24 AM
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169. Exactly. So, in my estimation, it is a measure of how close CA
is to being the new Ohio.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:19 AM
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161. is sacramento county in?
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:21 AM
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166. 29.7% reporting so far for Sacramento
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 12:21 AM by Kadie
http://vote2005.ss.ca.gov/Returns/prop/34.htm
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:19 AM
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163. 73, 74, and 75 still tightening
74 is almost gone for good. major areas still left.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:22 AM
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168. 9:16 PST Update
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 12:26 AM by longship
Propositions Yes Votes Pct. No Votes Pct.
73 Y Minor's Pregnancy 1,119,336 51.2 1,069,086 48.8
74 Y Teacher Tenure 1,112,715 50.4 1,095,099 49.6
75 Y Public Union Dues 1,194,147 54.2 1,009,338 45.8
76 N Spending/Funding 942,999 42.8 1,258,646 57.2
77 N Redistricting 1,002,271 45.9 1,178,981 54.1
78 N Rx Drug Discounts 932,534 42.9 1,239,498 57.1
79 N Rx Drug Rebates 824,035 38.1 1,334,274 61.9

17.8% prec reporting. Things moving slow again.

73, 74, 75 keep moving in right direction.

0.0% LA prec reporting
2.9% SF prec reporting.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:24 AM
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171. thanks for doing this longship!
:thumbsup:
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:27 AM
Original message
Click On The Link... Catch Votes County By County.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:24 AM
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172. 19.6%
State Ballot Measures
19.6% ( 3468 of 17657 ) precincts reporting as of Nov 8, 2005 at 9:21 pm

Statewide Returns County Returns | County Status

Propositions Yes Votes Pct. No Votes Pct.

73 Y Minor's Pregnancy 1,154,794 51.2 1,101,061 48.8 Map


74 Y Teacher Tenure 1,141,370 50.2 1,134,089 49.8 Map


75 Y Public Union Dues 1,224,055 53.9 1,047,255 46.1 Map


76 N Spending/Funding 966,882 42.6 1,302,433 57.4 Map


77 N Redistricting 1,026,741 45.6 1,221,869 54.4 Map


78 N Rx Drug Discounts 960,745 42.9 1,278,166 57.1 Map


79 N Rx Drug Rebates 848,879 38.1 1,376,016 61.9 Map


80 N Electric Regulation 761,345 34.8 1,423,324 65.2 Map




Y - Proposition is passing
N - Proposition is not passing
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:24 AM
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174. 74 is almost dead
75 tightening but way behind.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:27 AM
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177. Willie Brown just said that it's still possible to defeat 75
The big counties have enough votes to pull it off. Let's hope.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:28 AM
Response to Reply #174
179. Do you mean dead EVEN?
'cuz the way I'm seeing it they're only 7,000 votes behind...
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:32 AM
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186. we are behind, but closing in
we still have areas to count that may kick it out all the way.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:31 AM
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185. I'm looking at the precincts reported in each county, and it's really true
that the rural counties have been getting their votes in and counted earlier than the urban areas.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:25 AM
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175. Even Prop 75 is creeping up nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:27 AM
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176. new thread?
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:28 AM
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178. My dialup's sarting to creak
Sounds good to me.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:29 AM
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181. ok starting
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:29 AM
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180. Election problems? Report them here- important
The election problems aren't over- the system is still a mess. so it important to monitor and be active in preventing corrupt practices.
Here's how:

If you experience any problem casting your ballot -- finding the polling place, voter intimidation, accessibility issues, voting machine problems, provisional ballot
issues, etc. -- or you witness anyone having voting problems, please immediately
call 1-866-OUR-VOTE to report the problem. Please let others know too... the same number works nationwide.

Verified Voting Foundation volunteers and staff have developed a new version of the "Election Incident Reporting System" (EIRS) to record all problems reported to 1-866-OUR-VOTE. Since 2004, hundreds of organizations and thousands of individuals in the United States have used EIRS to help protect our right to vote and assure that every vote is counted as cast. If you'd like to know more about
EIRS, please visit VerifiedVotingFoundation.org and Voteprotect.org

California had problem with touch screen switching in 2004 election;
likely even more in this one
http://www.flcv.com/californ.html
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:30 AM
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182. crap, NO on 73, 74, and 75, fell behind a bit
still no movement in LA or SF, tho.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:30 AM
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183. new thread, mods lock
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5306332

Some on dial up are having problems now
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:30 AM
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184. 9:26 PST Update
Propositions Yes Votes Pct. No Votes Pct.
73 Y Minor's Pregnancy 1,221,724 51.7 1,144,122 48.3
74 Y Teacher Tenure 1,198,620 50.3 1,188,119 49.7
75 Y Public Union Dues 1,285,568 54.0 1,097,082 46.0
76 N Spending/Funding 1,017,383 42.7 1,363,002 57.3
77 N Redistricting 1,080,452 45.8 1,278,317 54.2
78 N Rx Drug Discounts 1,010,120 43.0 1,338,197 57.0
79 N Rx Drug Rebates 887,296 38.0 1,445,945 62.0
80 N Electric Regulation 798,758 34.8 1,492,741 65.2

20.7% prec reporting
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:35 AM
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189. Teacher Tenure just switched to N
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:41 AM
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192. Thanks for the update. Biting nails here.
:applause:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:35 AM
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190. 74 just went "N"!!
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 12:36 AM by BullGooseLoony
And Prop 75's "N's" just took a big jump up....

22.7% of precincts reporting
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:46 AM
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193. with 27%, 73 is just about to go N and 75 is tightening
significantly while N on 74 is growing
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:47 AM
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194. 74 went NO...common...PLEASE...NO on 73 and 75, too...PLEASE

73 Y Minor's Pregnancy 1,254,423 51.2 1,199,423 48.8 Map


74 N Teacher Tenure 1,233,805 49.8 1,241,387 50.2 Map


75 Y Public Union Dues 1,320,103 53.5 1,150,808 46.5 Map


76 N Spending/Funding 1,045,587 42.3 1,422,731 57.7 Map

77 N Redistricting 1,112,241 45.4 1,333,871 54.6 Map


78 N Rx Drug Discounts 1,041,353 42.7 1,393,350 57.3 Map


79 N Rx Drug Rebates 922,425 38.1 1,496,186 61.9 Map


80 N Electric Regulation 826,770 34.8 1,547,531 65.2 Map
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:51 AM
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195. Update --28.2%
Propositions Yes Votes Pct. No Votes Pct.

73 Y Minor's Pregnancy 1,350,110 50.2 1,340,255 49.8 Map

74 N Teacher Tenure 1,327,279 48.9 1,385,880 51.1 Map

75 Y Public Union Dues 1,417,451 52.4 1,290,955 47.6 Map

76 N Spending/Funding 1,121,166 41.4 1,584,429 58.6 Map

77 N Redistricting 1,197,145 44.6 1,484,102 55.4 Map

78 N Rx Drug Discounts 1,125,687 42.1 1,542,311 57.9 Map

79 N Rx Drug Rebates 1,030,946 38.9 1,618,637 61.1 Map

80 N Electric Regulation 916,579 35.2 1,684,408 64.8 Map
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:51 AM
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196. 73 is very close to flipping!
Great news! Keep those fingers crossed.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:53 AM
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197. less than a third of the votes are counted so this doesnt mean much
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:55 AM
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199. Alameda just began to come in -- 2.9%
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:56 AM
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200. 98% of SF reporting now
Willie Brown is doing analysis on Channel 4 (SF old NBC station, now 100% news) pretty darn funny!
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:59 AM
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204. is he still optimistic about 75?
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 01:01 AM
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206. Link Only Show About 66% Counted And
they slammed the Props!
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:53 AM
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198. Our local ABC station is calling76 78 79 80 down/ calling these defeated
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:59 AM
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203. I think those are pretty safe calls.
73 is really down to the wire though. Only 10,000 votes putting it in the yes column.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 01:01 AM
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207. 73 just flipped!!!
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:58 AM
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201. I Just Did A County By County Check On Results!!
Most counties with over 200,000 voting YES on 73, 74 & 75 have MORE results in than the other large counties that have over 200,000 voters.

Very few results in for Alameda, Contra Costa, LA, and San Francisco counties. These look to be good bets to vote NO on 73, 74 & 75.

San Mateo is kicking, Santa Clara looks good & Sonoma looks good too!

Can't get a good bead about Stanislaus or San Bernardino.

I don't know the lay of the land out there, but from doing the check just now I feel pretty HOPEFUL!
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 01:00 AM
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205. Pretty sure San Bernardino trends Republican
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 01:03 AM
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211. Could Be... But With The Smallest Returns 1.3% They
are voting everything DOWN, but 75 and that's close. Must be absentee mostly.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 01:03 AM
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208. 31.2% Update
Propositions Yes Votes Pct. No Votes Pct.

73 N Minor's Pregnancy 1,371,085 49.8 1,376,947 50.2 Map

74 N Teacher Tenure 1,349,583 48.7 1,420,952 51.3 Map

75 Y Public Union Dues 1,437,923 52.0 1,327,422 48.0 Map
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212. Locking
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 01:05 AM by LeftCoast
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