Meet the next President of the United States:

Kaine's victory shows that Warner has what it takes to deliver a red state, AND Kaine's victory, since Virginia Governors only can have one term, is basically Warner's re-election. Kaine won by about the same margain that Warner did in 2001. Warner will become a real contender should he run for President. However, I do not know if DU will support him. He has a history with the DLC, but no more so than some other southern Democrats. He also raised taxes and his popularity went UP. Clark and Edwards will also bid for the southern moderate voters in the primaries and suck attention away from Warner at the grassroots. He fixed a budget deficit given to him by Republican Governor Jim Gilmore that was hidden from the public. He is Howard Dean but with a southern edge and a little more to the center.

If he takes bold positions on two or three key issues, and stands by them, he wins (the war and the fraud being one of them. No Dem can leave that out).

He seems okay from the little I have seen of him but there is something about him. I remember reading a little while ago though he snuck off to a Bilderberg meeting. :shrug: Take whatever you want with that though. I'll be happy to get to know him. :) Is he for sure running in 2008?

Also think that ticket would bring a number of other battleground states into our column as well.

:toast:

with Clark.

Or is that not a problem?

:)

That said, I'd prefer a Clark/Dean ticket, which I also think would kick Repuke ass.

But Clark/Warner could be as sure a thing as we've got.

Clark/Warner has been my team for months now.
They would be formidable.
And they would win handily.

I'm a BIG Warner supporter, having voted for him in the last election. He is smart and did a superb job for Virginia, and had a great bipartisan record.

Magic words to use against the Repubicans.

Especially with all the ridiculous spending now!

just like Bill.

In January of 1991 I went to New Hampshire for the week-end and met a Southern governor. I came back to the office on Monday and told everyone I had met the next President of the United States. They said, "Who was that?" I said, "Bill Clinton," and they laughed me out of the office. But I had the last laugh!

Virginians definitely like Warner! :)

but if so, he's got some mighty big shoes to fill:
Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe (and those four other guys)

But a hearty Huzzah! for my home state this eve.

sorry---its Bill Richardson---now one comes close to him and he even speaks another language--how about that-------

His stint as Secretary of Energy will crush him in the primaries.

Heh. I don't know much about him but I've heard some tainted things with Richardson so I don't think it'd work much in our favor as a party and everything.

He took the money from the big corps and sold out the working people. To hell with Bill Richardson.

needed to be counted.

He's not even an issue anytime soon in my book.

Taste it!

I'd enjoy watching those two cuties campaigning for a coupla years!

Isn't Feingold to progressive for Warner, who seems to be more conservative? Warner's DLC after all.

ticket in '08 for the same reasons.

The left wing deserves a nom after all the grass rooting and activating the base for sigs and letters. (not saying it was only them, but lets face it the more activists minded Dems tend to be Liberal at the least).

I consider Clark an "Old Middle" guy meaning he is left of the "New Middle", which has swung right. Old Middle is what being a moderate used to be, which I as a strong left winger I had no problem with (I am after all just looking for people who I can work with). So in my book Clark/Boxer gives us a traditional Moderate with an upstanding Liberal. I think its a good combination and perfect for the coming backlash.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/08/AR2005110802241_pf.html

A Triumph For Warner, And a Guide For His Party

"Virginia's quadrennial search for a governor featured neither charismatic personalities nor dominant policy initiatives. But Democrat Timothy M. Kaine's come-from-behind victory over Republican Jerry W. Kilgore nonetheless provided important political lessons for the commonwealth, and maybe the country.

The outcome marked what feels like a dramatic strengthening of Democratic appeal in Northern Virginia, the state's richest and most populous region. It showed that Republicans can no longer depend simply on the power of their party to win statewide and the dangers of relying on negative campaign ads. It presented a new campaign model for Democrats, in which religious faith plays an integral role. And most of all, it demonstrated the appeal of Gov. Mark R. Warner (D), for whom this could become the first stop of a presidential campaign.

"The real asset that Kaine had was this rather astonishing popularity of Warner," said Merle Black, a professor who studies Southern politics at Emory University. ... And Black said the election could hardly have gone better for Warner as he begins to put together a national campaign. "You can imagine him on the ticket, either as the presidential candidate or the vice president, and Virginia automatically becomes a competitive state," he said.

The commonwealth has not supported a Democrat for president since Lyndon B. Johnson in 1964. ..."

To "cookie cutter perfect" for me.

Last person I would want running for President. I'd rather have Hillary, I'd rather have BIDEN!! Well, not the last person. He'd have to be better than Joementum.

Right now I'm leaning towards Edwards or Warner. Kerry holds sentimental value for me as well because I still think he'd make a brilliant president and I was always quite impressed with his record and his strengths. So if I think Kerry can win I may support him again. Otherwise though, I'm leaning towards Edwards or Clark. But Warner's definitely worth a look. Perhaps an Edwards/Warner or Clark/Warner ticket? Or perhaps Warner/Clark? (For that matter, I'd quite like an Edwards/Clark ticket as well).

Sure, why not.

but he's worth looking at.

I still like Clark, but Warner seems good too. Of the moderates, I definetely prefer him (no Biden or Hillary!) because atleast I think he has some chance in winning. He also has a record of acheivment, which is more than I can say for those two. We could do worse than nominating a successful governor in a traditionally republican state, who was able to get his Lt. Governor elected to the top spot. From what I heard the state was in a hell of a mess with the pukes in charge before him and he did a lot to turn it around, especially fiscally.

I've been paying attention to Mark Warner for a while now and I like what I've seen so far. While I do have a soft spot for Kerry, I think governors just have a better chance than senators when it comes to the presidency. Warner has quite a bit of wiggle room in regards to certain issues which is not really possible for a senator who casts thousands of votes each year. If Mark Warner decides not to run in 2008, he would make a pretty good VP candidate for whoever wins the nomination.

At least under the rovian rules of campaigns (flipity flopity). Let's see, in the last 50 years, there was Kennedy (barely). Johnson and Truman hardly count since they likely would not have been elected in the normal corse of events. I think repubs realize this and don't nominate Senators. Unless there are no qualified non-Senators (there ARE), let's look elsewhere.

If Mark Warner will go against George Allen in the next election, then I would support him for President in 2008. :shrug:

Mr. "Sensible Center?" I'll pass. After we have Alito confirmed, abortion rights for women will be gone. Say hello to botched abortions and coat hangers. :( What's wrong with a LIBERAL candidate that actually represents Democratic values? We are the MINORITY because we moved to the CENTER. There was NO DIFFERENCE between the Dems and repukes, in the eyes of the voting public. Why would we continue down the "Center" road? He's a Howard Dean with a southern edge? :) I don't think so. Howard has a dynamic personality. Warner is so, so, so DRY. He reminds me of Kerry. Smart, but so BORING to listen to. JMCPO. I want a LIBERAL candidate to vote for. Our party needs to stand for what it stands for. LIBERALISM. STAND AND BE PROUD. Last night's elections showed us the people have had enough of conservatives.

Kaine is the one who opposes abortion, but he said that he would enforce the laws as they are.

While I would like someone a bit more left, Warner is no Lieberman, and I agree, he could deliver a lot of southern states and Virginia for sure. I'd rather he be the running mate though, with someone like Gore or Clark in the front spot.

hmm...