Okay. . .How big was tonight?

No metaphorical. . .but how many Democrats at all levels won? Skinner, Earl, is there a way to gauge it all?

Is there a way we can gauge how much "political capital" the fucktard chimp doesn't have?


Now, besides that! HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE HAPPY TONIGHT???? I am enjoying this!!!

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ok lets RUSH THE LOUNGE!!
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was worded so shittily it'll be challenged in court and soon.

... the gay marriage measure, when it was up in Ohio in '04.

I left the polls shaking my head, not sure if I voted the right way. The next day at work, even the most conservative among my coworkers were upset because they felt they voted, unknowingly, against gay marriage when they really wanted to approve it.

The way they word those measures is so fucked up! It's as if they just want to drag conservative voters to the polls on these kinds of divisive measures, and they don't really care about whether they'll hold up in court. Gay marriage measures are a Republican vehicle for getting their base to the polls. :grr:

It's that the bigot state senators who wrote it, wrote it so that it effectively dissolves ALL marriage in the state of Texas!

BWA!!!!

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Reform Ohio Now failed... Issues 2 through 4. All four measures voted down. No vote-by-mail, no corporate campaign contribution caps, no end in sight for gerrymandering, no bi-partisan Board of Elections.

In other words, no progress in Ohio. :-(

So, I'm pretty bummed in Ohio. But I'm happy for California, Virginia, and New Jersey. :-)

You can try again, or, poison the GOP Lege candidates by linking them to Taft and run those proposals through the Ohio Lege.

You have options!!! It will be good! It started tonight!!!

The measures weren't just voted down, they were crushed. A million votes difference on some measures. Issue 2 (vote-by-mail) lost by the smallest margin... 730,000 odd votes.

I'm still confident for '06 though... we could take the statehouse back, and Paul Hackett is our most promising Senate candidate for Dewine's seat.

I hope this is a blip, the defeat of Reform Ohio Now. But I'm sad not to be sharing in the other national victories tonight. :-(

This was an off election right? I say keep trying every year until it passes. And not just in Ohio.

NJ is a Dem state anyway; the VA pickup was huge. Arnold getting his ass handed to him on his propositions is huge.

But Texas ratified anti-gay bigotry, and Ohio shot a number of election reform initiatives to pieces.

More up than down, with good trends for the most part.

I was so looking forward in sharing the huge California and Virginia victories.

But, so it goes. Ohio is slow to join in the progressive movement.

Ah, well. On to '06!!

and very good news.

But we have to keep in mind, there weren't any federal elections.

Still, it shows that republicans are having a tough time at the state and local level...I wouldn't at all be surprised if this isn't atleast partly with their disgust over Bush.

Bloomberg won in New York, Dems in NJ and VA.

In 2001 Bush had an 85% approval rating, today its barely 40%.

But other things make the situation look better.

It looks like all of Arnold's initiatives will fail.

But the anti-gay rights bill was passed in a big way in Texas, and election initiatives were shot down in Ohio.

I wouldn't be comfortable making spectacular predictions about 2006 until the summertime.

Few across-the-board elections happened. I think we pulled in a few seats in the Virginia legislature, made a few significant benchmarks in the NYC suburbs in a growing blue trend, but nothing dramatic.
Referendums went pretty much as predicted: Maine showed that people don't like to vote for something that sounds overtly discriminitory, Texas showed (and the margin was about 15% over what Bush pulled there last year) that couching nastiness in flowery language will get you that vote. Californians showed that 2003 really was about Grey Davis, while Ohioans showed their love for Blackwellian Dieboldocracy.

The one surprise to me was watching the Dover Area school board get kicked out. That's a pretty conservative area in a pretty conservative county, quite evangelical as northern areas go, and if I were to look for any trend tonight, that election might just be the biggest one.

Our victory was small, but it certainly struck a blow at the administration, and a blow at Bush and Rove. Kilgore's loss might indicate that a little of the magic is lost from Atwater-Rove politics, but I think it was more Kilgore's poor campaigning.

However, the spin masters will take it to the bank, and that's good enough for me.