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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 09:59 AM
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Do yesterday's results restore your faith in the election process?
The reason I ask this, is before the polls even opened, allegations were flying that this election had been or was going to be stolen.

For an example, see this thread

So, given yesterday's favorable results, has your faith in the election process been restored?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:00 AM
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1. HELL NO! They're saving the big guns for '06 and '08. n/t
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SledDriver Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:04 AM
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5. Agreed.
Had to convince people that their machines aren't rigged.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:11 AM
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15. Oh, Gawd...this is the theory that I was mumbling about all
day yesterday.Everyone seems so thrilled with the day's victories (as well they SHOULD be); but there is still the inescapable fact that the last Presidential election was stolen; and if they did it once, they'll certainly do it again...when the stakes are really high. Those machines MUST GO, and they MUST GO before the 2006 mid-terms.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:02 AM
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2. No
It's too easily corrupted and coopted.

My faith, however, in the good minds and hearts of people was never shaken. Yesterday just affirmed it.

Of course, there are those morons - the 35% - who still think Fuckface is doing a good job.

But, my fear, of course, is that they're saving what they've got to steal the next Presidential election.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:03 AM
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3. I feel a little better but we must not let our
guard down!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:03 AM
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4. i want to know why in virginia it was so hard to vote for the democrat
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 10:04 AM by seabeyond
if we give me a satisfied answer i will feel better. for two weeks i watched different part of of texas and new mexico experience this same phenomenon in the 2004 election early voting. dems and repug alike have shrugged it off. i dont. i want to know why, it is the dem vote that is so challenging to get registered

answer me, and i will be a step closer to trusting
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:05 AM
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10. could you elaborate?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:16 AM
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19. i was reading yest on board there was an area in virg where
people were entering the dem candidate and wouldnt reg, would go to repug. took three four five tries.

the same thing happened in areas of texas and new mexico starting 2 weeks prior in early election. 2004. we were hearing vote straight dem and would put bush as pres, would take people three four five times to get kerry and sometimes it just didnt take. no followups. no fixing this for two weeks, still continued on election day

bothers me. people tell me just a glicht. i am tired of these little oooopes that take from dem
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:27 AM
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21. someone posted this on virginia
this was from early yesterday!!
http://www.wdbj7.com/global/story.asp?s=4089899&ClientT...


November 8, 2005
Voters report problems with voting machines in Roanoke Co.

Election day voting is going on across the Old Dominion, but everything has not gone smoothly in Roanoke County.

News 7 has received calls from several voters in at least four different precincts who say their votes for Tim Kaine were not recorded or took several attempts to go through.

They contend the electronic touch screens repeatedly indicated they were voting for Republican candidate Jerry Kilgore instead of registering their intended vote for his Democratic opponent Tim Kaine.

Roanoke Co. Registrar Judy Stokes says she doesn't want to say the problem is operator error on the part of the voters, but she points out the touch screens are sensitive. She says anyone who is having difficulty voting should ask one of the poll workers for assistance.

State election officials have been told of the problem. They believe if there is a problem, it could have been caused by the way the machines were stored.

The Kaine compaign is reportedly watching the situation in Roanoke County.

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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:04 AM
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6. Not in the least.
I was just saying, that the powers that be have turned against Bush.

The failure of the Ohio reforms indicates to me that they still reserve the right to tip the scales if need be.

It may be that the force manipulating elections is not entirely partisan. That doesn't make it just.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:04 AM
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7. no but it restores my faith in my fellow Californians who voted Arnold in
in the first place.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:04 AM
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8. NO. No no no no no.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:05 AM
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9. It just says to me their power to steal an election isn't absolute.
"All" we need to do to allow the majority to win is to produce a supermajority.
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Sparkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:56 AM
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20. if EVERYONE at the local bar and the local church feels cheated, revolutio
n WILL follow. SOOOOO, electoral fraud has it's limitations.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:06 AM
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11. delighted in the outcome,, because it means
That NJ and VA might be able to secure machines with voter verified paper ballots before the '06 race. Decisions are being made NOW about what kind of machines will be purchased by each state.

It is still the #1 issue in my book.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:07 AM
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12.  Hell NO!


I worked the polls.

People had their polling places moved with 2 days notice.

The CA Ballot would take a brain scientist to figure it out -that was intentional.

Thank God the public REALLY wanted to understand it and got lots of help from the Democratic Reps. that sent flyers to the homes.

Just matching your vote to the right machine process was so tricky.

So many seniors , many more than in our history, can't get to the polls.
They also CAN't possibly cut through the tiny print to Absentee.
So, some of our best voters ,can't vote.

etc.
etc.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:08 AM
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13. no
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:08 AM
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14. No, Not Really
Too many voter reforms were voted down. People wanted certain Republicans out, but they didn't vote to make elections any cleaner.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:13 AM
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16. NO, even the Gov of CA wouldn't have been allowed to vote if he wasn't the
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 10:14 AM by jsamuel
Gov.

Just because we won doesn't mean there isn't major problems with the way the voting system is designed.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:15 AM
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17. Not one bit, for me
These weren't seen as having a major impact and threat to power at the federal level.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:16 AM
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18. Not at all. nt
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:29 AM
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22. read this
http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?s=4089899

there were problems, just on a much smaller scale.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:29 AM
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23. Talk to me in 2006 and 2008.
I don't trust these fucking traitors at all.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:41 AM
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24. It gives me hope
I'm not 100% sure things are okay, but at least, it appears they can't make huge reversals.

The faith that's at least partially restored is in the American voter.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:51 AM
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25. NO
It would be naive to think that the election process has greatly improved.

My faith in the election process was lost in the 90's when I worked an election and really started to see what goes on. There are both masterminds and "elves" at work behind the scenes. The system is wide open for corruption and that's just fine with Republicans.
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