Calling all lawyers. Can the anti-homosexual "christian" clan be guilty

of slander or of inciting harm on another person because of their widespread anti-gay behavior, especially toward children? I had thought that a hate crime needed to involve violence but according to Wicopedia:


"The actions considered criminal are using force or threat of force to willfully injure, intimidate, interfere with, oppress, or threaten any other person in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him or her by the Constitution or laws of the State or country."

To me it sounds like enough to bring about a lawsuit against these freaks that tell little children that gay people are immoral, sick, sinful etc. Even if that child is not gay such teachings would promote intolerance and possibly violence toward gays. If you preached that another race was immoral your ass would get hung on the wall.

And to all the naysayers, remember there was a time when black women had to give their seats up to white men and most people thought that was the way it was and the was it was always going to be.


I also have to say that it is quite ironic that "Christians" consider themselves to be persecuted. Maybe it has something to do with: "Do unto others"



California Penal Code section 422.6 offers a wider interpretation of hate crime, defining it as those acts "committed because of the victim's actual or perceived race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, disability, gender, or sexual orientation. The actions considered criminal are using force or threat of force to willfully injure, intimidate, interfere with, oppress, or threaten any other person in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him or her by the Constitution or laws of the State or country."

Some supporters reason that one who can be moved to violence by hatred of a class of people presents greater danger to society than one who merely hates an individual. Their position states that if normal punishments are inadequate deterrents, then additional punishments may deter crimes motivated by hate. Other proponents of hate crime legislation consider that politically correct or socially sanctioned hate is a problem, and that legislation will need to explicitly cover those often deemed less worthy of protection, such as WASP men.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_crime

you get evidence that specifically links them to crimes there isn't much that you can do. However there is such a thing called "hate speech" that exists but you have to be awfully careful with that due to free speech issues.

covered in lily white "christian" rhetoric. It is hateful because of its content. It is function rather than forum that is important in my opinion.

Kind of like making fun of a schoolmate's obesity repeatedly and often and notably enough for them to commit suicide.

The harshest thing is that parents will try to instill this kind of bigotry in their own children, utterly sure that it's "someone else" they're talking about.

What does a gay child do when all of their role models and friends, and teachers tell them they're sick and immoral and going to burn in hell and the downfall of western civilization?

What kind of violence are you doing to that child's psyche?

Sometimes when we teach our children to fear and hate the things that are different from ourselves, we are teaching them to hate themselves, even when they're not gay.

The boy listened to their records, and the lyrics in one song said "Do it!", although, if I recall correctly, Most of JP's music is about sex, so "do it!" to me would be to fuck.:shrug:

I can't remember who won the case, but it's been done before.

A hate crime needs to have a spefific target.

(I should point out that I find the entire concept of hate crimes ridiculous).

We managed to keep Phelps and his clan of loonies on the other side of the border because of the incitement to hatred thing, and anything that works has my vote.

I firmly believe that your right to free speech ends when it interferes with my right to life and happiness!

The gay, lesbians, transgendered = I can't remember the letters.

Surely there is one person out there that can state that he/she was seriously hurt by the Christian Rights's incessant obsessing with humiliating gays. I am sure there are THOUSANDS and one that can provide a viable case.

Maybe I should ask the ACLU

He thinks he wins the Most Oppressed Sweepstakes.

And any instance where a gay person was injured by anti-gay hysteria most likely involves a specific perpetrator. If a company doesn't want to hire you because you are gay, the company is at fault, not the Christian Right.

The biggest problem you have is that gays are not recognized as a protected class by the courts.