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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 04:46 PM
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The Republican spin has started......the Iraq war is a good thing
This is from email, I'm sorry but I don't have a link.





Hi Everyone

FYI,

WHAT SENATOR JOHN GLENN SAID :

Things that make you think a little:

There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January. In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January.That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq.

Some claim that President Bush shouldn't have started this war, I present following:

a. FDR led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us; Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ... An average of 112,500 per year.

b. Truman finished that war and started one in Korea. North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost... An average of 18,334 per year.

c. John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.

d. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost... An average of 5,800 per year.

e. Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.

In the years since terrorists attacked us , President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist dictator who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.

The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking.

But it took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.

We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick

It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!

Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB! The Military morale is high!

The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize the facts.

But Wait. There's more!

Some people still don't understand why military personnel do what they do for a living. This exchange between Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one man's explanation of why men and women in the armed services do what they do for a living.

This IS a typical, though sad, example of what some who have never served think of the military.

JOHN GLENN (ON THE SENATE FLOOR)
Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:13

Senator Metzenbaum (speaking to Senator Glenn):
"How can you run for Senate when you've never held a real job?"

Senator Glenn (D-Ohio):
"I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions. I was in the space program. It wasn't my checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line. It was not a nine-to-five job, where I took my tie off to take the daily cash receipts to the bank.

I ask you to go with me ... as I went the other day... to a veteran's hospital and look those men... with their mangled bodies . in the eye, and tell THEM they didn't hold a job!

You go with me to the Space Proram at NASA and go, as I have gone, to the widows and Orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee... and you look those kids in the eye and tell them that their DADS didn't hold a job.

You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in Arlington National Cemetery, where I have more friends buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch those waving flags.

You stand there, and you think about this nation, and you tell ME that those people didn't have a job?

What about you?"

For those who don't know... During W.W. II, Howard Metzenbaum was an attorney representing the Communist Party in the USA.

Now he's a Democrat Senator!

It might not be a bad idea to keep this circulating.



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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 04:47 PM
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1. Oh Jesus, not this crap again
:yoiks:
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 04:56 PM
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10. Jesus, it is this crap again: think I caught Grasso on TV saying, in
refering to the terrorist attacks in Jordan, something to the effect that everything we've done since 9-11 is right on target or hunky-dorey or words to that effect. All hail the mighty Bush.

:yoiks:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 05:03 PM
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11. Your short comment, together with that little blue guy going away,
has me laughing out loud! :rofl:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 04:48 PM
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2. Chalabi shows up
and suddely there are suicide bombs in Jordan with Iraqi license plates. What an amazing coincidence. Well I no longer care. I want to know about the genocide in Fallujah and the rest of Iraq.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 04:49 PM
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3. how old is that crap? metzenbaum left the senate 10 years ago!
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 04:50 PM
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4. Just shows how desperate they are! n/t
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afdip Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 04:50 PM
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5. not new . . . many years old. bogus then and bogus now . . . . .
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 04:52 PM
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6. Someone is recirculating it in email
I'm putting together a rebuttal to send to everyone on the list.
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 04:53 PM
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7. This piece of shit has been around for awhile
Most of it is so easily refuted that it's not worth it. Every time there's another controversy involving a conservative, some asshole pulls this email out and sends it to everybody. For god's sake, Metzenbaum hasn't been a fucking senator for 10 year!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 04:53 PM
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8. old BS - just delete it n/t
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 04:55 PM
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9. This e-mail is so full of holes it's not funny.
In the first place the exchange between Metzenbaum and Glenn is totally misrepresented.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/g/glenn-metzenbaum.htm

You know, unlike a lot of people who like to pass this kinda garbage around, I actually worked with John Glenn. I'm sure he would find it insulting to be misrepresented in this fashion.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 05:14 PM
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12. Some really idiotic statistcs
OK lets start with the fact that it pics one of the lowest combat death months since the start of the war.
http://icasualties.org/oif/default.aspx

Second, compare it to a city with a population many times larger than the number of U.S. forces in Iraq and also a city with one of the highest murder rates in the country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit

Also, exclude any Iraqi deaths since in the republican mind, they don't count.



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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 05:33 PM
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13. I appreciate the links from both of you
Several Republican relatives believe this crap, I'm doing my best to enlight them.
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