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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:51 AM
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Poll question: Is Bush Evil Or Misguided
Edited on Tue Oct-14-03 10:58 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
During last night's Hardball Tweety basically asked John Edwards if he thought * was a bad man or just had bad policies...

Edwards basically said * wasn't a bad man but he had bad policies...

I disagree.... I think * is evil and misguided... An inflammable mix.... What's the old saying about a weak and evil person... * reminds of the prison guard in The Green Mile who fails to adequately prep the condemned man making his execution more painful...


For the record I don't think all Republicans are evil cept for * and Nixon....

I didn't like Ford's and Reagan policies but I didn't think they were evil....

Is *
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:57 AM
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1. evil is a state devoid of empathy and compassion, bush is evil
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:00 AM
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2. Especially
when he mocked Karla Fae Tucker the condemned woman.....
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:00 AM
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3. He rationalizes so much that he actually buys his own bullshit. n/t
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:01 AM
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4. I Don't Think He Thinks Issues Through Hard Enough To Rationalize
NT
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rwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:11 AM
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5. He memorizes
a few talking points and repeats them over and over and finally believes them, plus all his friends are getting richer.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:22 AM
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6. Don't fall into the trap Bushco has
Evil is far overused. Bush isn't a bad person. He's a horribly, horribly, incredibly misguided person, but I don't think that he's "evil."
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:23 AM
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7. I Think He's Crossed The Line
and I say that more out of sadness than anger....
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:37 AM
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8. Bush Misguided/Rove Evil
And Rove is guiding Bush
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Baconfoot Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:45 AM
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9. It's a common misconception that stupid people can't also be evil. n/t
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:48 AM
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10. "People of the Lie"
Bush lies as much as any other evil person.

Milosevic comes to mind.

Hussein comes to mind.

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dkamin Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 12:00 PM
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11. Evil and Misguided
In my mind, "evil" (defined as "morally bad or wicked") is a lack of compassion for other human beings. I think Bush has amply demonstrated these qualities.

I agree that "evil" is overused, as well as wrongly used. However, I strongly believe that Bush is evil, as is the currently dominant wing of the Republican Party. Any philosophy that teaches that selfishness is a virtue is, a fortiori, an evil philosophy.

He is misguided because he overreached. If he had just scaled down his destruction of the federal government, justice, and any semblance of power for the people, he would have easily won reelection in 2004. Because he overreached, we have a good chance of beating him in '04 and reversing many or all of his misdeeds.

if he were evil and properly guided, I would fear him greatly.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 01:33 PM
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12. maybe we should forward our results to the white house
nt
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 01:47 PM
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13. You mean the Imperial Palace?
The "White House" was it's name when Presidents of the Old Republic sat inside of it.

It doesn't deserve that title now that it is the Seat of Power for an Orwellian Empire.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 01:48 PM
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14. K
-:)
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imhotep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 01:52 PM
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15. Evil doesn't exist
it is just a made up word.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 01:55 PM
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16. O K
NT
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 01:58 PM
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18. Ignorance, the root and the stem of every evil.
-Plato


He also said this:


The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 01:58 PM
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17. At the Dean event in LA, comedian Patten Ozwald put it perfectly.


He's not dumb, he's evil.

Look at when Bush sounds good, it is when he's talking about bombing people and killing people. It is when he is trying to pretend to be human that he sounds so stupid.

Hand Darth Vader a basket of kittens and he'll sound like an idiot too.



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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 02:14 PM
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19. This Is One Of The Few Polls * Will Ever Win At DU
-:)


I really dislike him... Like Nixon....

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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 03:32 PM
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20. Evil, misguided, and ...
we need add more. Certainly incompetent, with regard to outcomes of his policies.
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 03:36 PM
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21. He's a psychopath, aka someone with 'antisocial personality disorder'
Recognise anyone?

The essential feature of Antisocial Personality Disorder is a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others that begins in childhood or early adolescence and continues into adulthood. ...

Persons with this disorder disregard the wishes, rights, or feelings of others. They are frequently deceitful and manipulative in order to gain personal profit or pleasure,(e.g., to obtain money, sex, or power). ... A pattern of impulsivity may be manifested by a failure to plan ahead. Decisions are made on the spur of the moment, without forethought, and without consideration for the consequences.... Individuals with Antisocial Personality Disorder tend to be irritable and aggressive.... These individuals also display a reckless disregard for the safety of themselves or others. This may be evidenced in their driving behaviour (recurrent speeding, driving while intoxicated, multiple accidents). ...

Individuals with Antisocial Personality Disorder also tend to be consistently and extremely irresponsible. Irresponsible work behaviour may be indicated by significant periods of unemployment despite available job opportunities, or by abandonment of several jobs without a realistic plan for getting another job. There may also be a pattern of repeated absences from work that are not explained by illness either in themselves or in their family. ... Individuals with Antisocial Personality Disorder show little remorse for the consequences of their acts. They may be indifferent to, or provide a superficial rationalization for, having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from someone (e.g., "life's unfair,' 'losers deserve to lose," or "he had it coming anyway"). These individuals may blame the victims for being foolish, helpless, or deserving their fate; they may minimize the harmful consequences of their actions; or they may simply indicate complete indifference. They generally fail to compensate or make amends for their behaviour. They may believe that everyone is out to "help number one" and that one should stop at nothing to avoid being pushed around.

Individuals with Antisocial Personality Disorder frequently lack empathy and tend to be callous, cynical, and contemptuous of the feelings, rights, and sufferings of others. They may have an inflated and arrogant self-appraisal (e.g., feel that ordinary work is beneath them or lack a realistic concern about their current problems or their future) and may be excessively opinionated, self-assured, or cocky. They may display a glib, superficial charm and can be quite voluble and verbally facile.... Lack of empathy, inflated self-appraisal, and superficial charm are features that have been commonly included in traditional conceptions of psychopathy....
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 03:51 PM
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22. Man is inherently neither good nor evil...
but is to be judged by the consequences of his actions.

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