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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 04:53 PM
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I'm getting tired of Tucker Carlson of Crossfire saying "Canada is safe
Edited on Tue Oct-14-03 04:56 PM by glarius
'cause U.S.A is protecting them".....WE KNOW AMERICA WOULD AID US IF NEEDED.....JUST AS WE WOULD COME TO YOUR PHYSICAL AID IF NEEDED ALSO...Ever since we refused to join the attack on Iraq, I've heard "Canada is ungrateful for not joining us in Iraq because we would come to their aid!" This is said not only on talk radio, but on American TV as well...So far as I know WE DON'T HAVE ANY ENEMIES YOU NEED TO PROTECT US FROM!!!! The last I heard, any favours being done were BY Canada FOR the U.S.A....To wit, we took in 40,000 airline passengers from hundreds of diverted planes, right across Canada on Sept11/01 and looked after them for almost a week!..I know you've all heard about the Newfoundland deal, but they weren't the only part of Canada aiding American stranded passengers....and when we allowed the planes to land in our country, we had no idea if any of them contained more terrorists!.....If you want to go back a few years, Canada was the ONLY country that came to your aid during the Iran hostage situation....Your diplomats in Tehran knocked on a few other doors before they came to the Canadian embassy, but were refused help until Canada took them in......This is sort of a rant I guess, but I have heard Tucker Carlson (and others) say this so many times that it makes me angry!!...
P.S. I consider the American PEOPLE good friends and I know you people here at DU don't share the sentiments of Tucker Carlson, but this is just something I wanted to get off my chest

:loveya:
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 04:57 PM
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1. I am perplexed why the Neo-Convicts and their mouthpieces
feel a need to piss off all our long term friends. The rate thingsare deteriorating we will need all of you soon.

Allow me to be the first our one of the first to apologize for the boorish behavior of the unelected swine and the unprofessional media that bad mouth Canada.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:07 PM
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8. I don't get it either
They proceeded to piss off every one of our allies (except Saudi Arabia, which is more of an administration business partner than an ally). I don't see how this would benifit the country at all.
But, of course, I realize that they don't care about benifitting the country. All the administration cares about is their profits.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:18 PM
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11. maybe Tucker heard someone in Can still liked us.
We would not want that so He speaks like that.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 04:57 PM
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2. Right on, eh?
I totally agree with you. As a kid, my family vacationed every summer in Canada, and I fell in love with Quebec, saw my first punk rocker (with a green mohawk!) in Toronto, and pine for the snow and courtesy of our Canadian brethren. Should Bush get re-selected, a lot of us, not just me, will be looking for residency in your country. Please be kind to us! We envy your level-headedness.
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 04:58 PM
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3. Tucker's an @**
Unfortuately, there are plenty of his type around.

And, yes, Canada probably is safe, as least safer than the US, but that is because your government leaders don't go around ticking off the rest of the world...
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Valerie5555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:52 PM
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24. Or screwing around in the Middle East, to put it diplomatically
to Tucker: to quote the McKenzie Bros. "TAKE OFF EH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:01 PM
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4. Dear people of Canada.
I love you! I do. For what it's worth, I love your beautiful country and its wonderful people. The U.S. is blessed to have such a great ally. I just hope you remain an ally. I wouldn't blame you for telling us to kiss off.

:loveya: Canada!!!!
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:01 PM
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5. Thanks for the good words....I've heard Tucker and his ilk so often that
I just kind of blew my top!!!...We, the people of both countries are still friends, I believe! :)
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:03 PM
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6. "O', Canada!"
May God bless you and keep you! :hug:
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:06 PM
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7. I don't get it either
I heard that somewhere and just didn't understand what the hell the person saying it was talking about. Unless I missed something, we have no military bases in Canada and are taking no direct action to protect Canada from anything.
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NicFed Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:11 PM
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9. Carlson
This guy gets me. He'll say something stupid like what you mention, and then he'll turn around and say Ashcroft was wrong for jailing Tommy Chong for selling glass. His reflexive defending of the right is a trait I hope he loses as he matures. He is one of the very few loud voices on the right that I harbor some hope for.

As an American I apologize for this insane group we have in power and the army of idiots we have defending them.

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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:17 PM
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10. I don't blame you for venting.
This is more of the republican horseshit, that's all. It makes some Americans feel good to think they're superior to others. Yuck.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:19 PM
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12. If You Check Your History
The only real enemy the Canadians have had is the US. I remember reading that the US launched attacks into Canada with the hope of conquering it and making it part of the USA.

Needless to say all attempts failed, something about incompetent Generals on the US side and Canadians that refused to retreat in the face of overwhelming odds.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 06:28 PM
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18. Yes, there were a few incursions into Canadian territory
during the Revolution and the War of 1812. In the "Manifest Destiny" period, there was also an on-going threat by die-hard "manifesters" to invade what was to become British Columbia ("54-40 or fight!")
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:44 PM
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22. and the Fenian raids ...
Arguably, these were Irish revolutionaries operating out of the US, trying to put pressure on Britain via the Canadian colonial government .... but as Dubya says, "if you harbor a terra-ist ..."
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 06:29 PM
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19. Sadly true; the US is Canada's only natural enemy,
and has proven so several times over.

When I hear Carlson talk of protecting us, I'm reminded of how Stalin "protected" the Baltic republics.

I'm not a nationalist, I'm an internationalist, but the War of 1812 does make my heart swell. And however much continentalists say assimilation into the American empire is inevitable, there are still enough Canadians who'll stubbornly resist.

Here's the final verse of a popular Canadian folk song, "Secord's Warning," that celebrates Laura Secord's heroic alert - I suppose Paul Revere-like - of an impending American attack in the War of 1812:

So all you Yankee soldier lads who dare to cross our border
Thinking to save us from ourselves
Usurping British order
There's women and men Canadians all
Of every rank and station
To stand on guard and keep us free
From Yankee domination


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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:21 PM
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13. Typical pantywaist conservative coward.
Probably lives in a super secure apartment building and never ventures into public. Rest assured, Canada, real Americans know you are our best friends.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:23 PM
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14. I agree
Edited on Tue Oct-14-03 05:25 PM by Padraig18
I will never forget that on 9-11, the VERY FIRST offers of help came from Canada! We are not all ingrates! :hug:

O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.

With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!

From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.


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qwertyMike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:40 PM
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15. The ONLY real threat to Canada
Is from the US of A
I live in Canada
I feel it
It was always so

Tuck Fucker Carlson

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:46 PM
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16. I'd also like to thank you for all your hockey teams
And Neil Young and Joni Mitchell.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 06:21 PM
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17. When we regain the Republic in 2004,
One of the first things we should do is apologize to the rest of the world, especially France and Canada.

Canada, it's a state of mind.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 06:30 PM
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20. Who cares what Tucker thinks, HERE IS WHAT I THINK!
He does represent the opinion of the majority of Americans. Don't get freaked, take deep breaths.

NOTE: My mother remarried a Canadian from Toronto. They live in Canada during the summer, and the US in the winter. I visit Canada often. I love Canada!

Oh Canada, God sheds his grace on thee!
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 06:37 PM
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21. I know you are right that that is what most Americans believe...BECAUSE
When your media never mentioned the facts I related about our response on 9/11 for one thing, they believe that we just don't care and can not be counted on for help....I don't blame the American public, how can they know the truth when they never hear it???
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Valerie5555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:49 PM
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23. And about the Ambassador guy who scored one of the key victories
way earlier on in the "struggle against terrorism" aka the hostage incident, he actually was from my home town. (Calgary, Alberta)


By the way Elton was wrong maybe the world not only hated the US because of Dennis Miller but because of Tucker Carlson as well.


By the way as well there were also a few gutsy souls in Calgary who went so far as to say things like "9 /11 BUSH DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 12:08 AM
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25. You have to consider...
The fact that Tucker is paid to speak before he thinks. When he says that Canada is only safe because the US protects them Paul Begala has all of 30 seconds to make a case against him, something that is really hard to do. Therefore Tucker gets away with making these hotheaded overblown statements that he may believe as fact, but would not use in a real debate. While I highly disagree with his political views I like Tucker for many reasons, amongst them how he handled the whole shoe thing in good humor.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 07:22 AM
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26. He had no choice with the"shoe thing"...Hillary was the good humoured
one with her shoe-shaped cake...He's smart enough to know he would have looked like the jerk he is if he hadn't tried to be "gracious"...I find him to be so smarmy and devious....Not only in his remarks about Canada, but in how he sneaks in snotty remarks about "liberals" or any of the presidential candidates....Whenever someone is beating him in an argument he just talks louder, over the top of them...uuugh...can't stand him!
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dand Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 07:35 AM
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27. Canada is wonderful
I spent two weeks in Nova Scotia in August and I never felt more at home in my life, everybody I spoke to was pro America, Carlson is paid big bucks to be an asshole, I would not take him seriously.
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Seneca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:06 AM
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28. the best way to deal with Tucker
Is to turn off your TV and not watch Crossfire. :-) You will thank yourself in the morning.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:22 AM
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29. It isn't my perception of him that I'm thinking about...it's how he is
influencing many American viewers who don't know much about Canaada and are forming their opinion of my country from his remarks...He says things like "Canada, the foreign country to the north that hasn't done anything useful in the world" (not exact words)...these are the kinds of nasty things he says often and that is why I'm pissed off with him....His boorishness is a joke to me, but I fear there are many who see him and believe his remarks....My turning off the TV is not going to stop that...:)
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