All us old folks thought "I am not a crook" when we heard * today

It was pretty astounding - all the folks who remember when Tricky Dick uttered those words just jumped on DU when Chimpy spoke.

The parallels are truly fascinating - both trying for the big bang from a position of weakness, both attempting to kill the messenger instead of owning up to responsibility, both pointing their fingers and yelling "he did it, he did it!".

Of course, lest us not forget the underlying theme of both talks - if you ain't one of us, you're one of them.

Dick had his cloth coat image from an earlier campaign, George has his "I'm werkin" rolled-up blue shirt - Rove's secretary is turning on him, Rosemary Woods made 18 1/2 minutes of history vanish - Hollywood can't make this stuff up.

If you weren't around for the original, the Cliff Notes version is front and center, right now.

sentence as bush . bush is a league of his own, he is the most corrupt president ever

Think happy impeachable thoughts.

lying about going to war is the ultimate "high crime"

No way this motherfucker should not be in jail, let alone impeached and removed from office.

...that's for sure.

You're trying to make me feel old too, DancingBear, and I'm only 56 :(

This age-old echo of the dichotomy of good and evil: Bush certainly still thinks he's one of the good guys, but he isn't--not one bit.

I was thinking the same thing, "I am NOT a crook!" roflmao!!

It like deja vu eh?

:D

:kick:

And you're right--the Bush White House is looking like Nixon's place. I just hope the public sees his offense for what it is--more lies and deception.

fiber of my body. I wore my McGovern button on my coat until the day Nixon left office. I haven't had that feeling until this nitwit was selected. And the same thing has happened. I have known this nitwit was bad news from day 1. His speechifying today sickened me. How dare he say such things on the day meant to honor those that have served! What the hell would he know about true service? Has he even spent a day of his stupid, meaningless life helping anyone in the true spirit of giving? Does he even understand the concept?

The answers to your questions:

Nothing.
No.
No.

No film at eleven.

I'm with you on the rerun quality of this administration. I knew this guy was bad news right off, also. Every horror we dreaded has come to pass, with yet more to come. It's so awful it's beyond reality. Here's hoping we come out on the other side of this.

(born in 1965), but I remember a lot. My mother is a political junkie (I come by it honestly) and had the old b&w tv on for every last bit of it.

W's going down, and the funny thing is that he's doing it all himself.

Fun to watch. :popcorn:

We'll just call you "politically precocious." :)

:rofl:

Not? Did he say that in the Watergate era?

Edit: Upon googling, I see it was 1973. Whaddaya know - I am old enough. I just don't remember it. I do remember the day he resigned, seeing the speech on TV at my neighbor's house.

and I remember it very well. Mom shushed me when John Dean was testifying. Thinking back on it still gives me a tingly feeling.

Most of my friends our age, when we discuss the Watergate hearings, remember that cartoons were pre-empted. I'm always correcting them- the hearings were always done by 4pm et. Match Game, however, was costantly interrupted. That bummed me out(a crush on Bret Somers, probably unhealthy for a 9 year old) big time. But I'm the better for it. I learned a lot about corruption and the impeachment process!

It was the best. I learned so much about double entendre from that show.

Ahem.

And yes, I too learned a lot about corruption and the impeachment process from the Watergate case. :evilgrin:

But it's not even close to the real thing. Gene Rayburn, Bret, Charles Nelson Reilly, Fannie Flagg, Richard Dawson, Vicki Lawrence, Nipsy Russell and Orson Bean were like family. One big drunken, perverse family.

after the election, my brother said that the country would again have the Nixon experience. I remember how strongly we all felt about him. There were campaign posters that read "Now, More Than Ever..." and had his photo. A friend and I would travel with a black marking pen, and write "...Don't Even Vote For Nixon!" on them. It had seemed that things couldn't possibly get worse than under LBJ, but Nixon was a more repulsive creature.

If you took the very worst traits of LBJ and of Nixon and blended them, you only begin to approach George W. Bush. I don't mind saying that I collect books on LBJ, and books by and about Nixon. I think that without the war, LBJ may have been one of the greatest of world leaders. He is an amazing character, with a tragic blend of qualities that didn't allow him to do what he knew was right. And Nixon is one of the more interesting forensic studies. But I can not imagine ever being tempted to read anything about Bush, except books like "Worse Than Watergate."

In my opinion, Nixon had some degree of respect for the presidency. Some of his actions show disrespect for the office, certainly, but not the contempt that Bush shows. The fact that he gave that pathetic speech yesterday is strong evidence of that contempt for both the presidency, and for the military history of this nation. As my father, a democratic union leader who felt betrayed by Watergate, said about Nixon, "That guy ain't a pimple on a good man's ass."

To make comparisons between Bush and Nixon is to shame Nixon, a concept heretofore considered unthinkable. Nixon had, as you correctly state, some type of respect for the office, sadly colored by both hatred and by racism. My father was a WW2 vet, always proud to wear his flag lapel pin and always ready to march in a parade. He did, however, maintain an irrational hatred for blacks and Latinos, except when it came to those who served. In his mind, those folks were "good." Nixon, even today, strikes me in this fashion.

Bush is contemptable in a myriad of ways, from his born to the purple contempt for those not so blessed to his almost psychotic belief in the utter "disposabilty" of human life when measured against a final result. Those who maintain that he carries a degree of mental illness get no argument from me.

However, the parallels in the cover-up scenario as it relates to both have validity. This is why I find this last speech to be a "crook" moment. He, like Nixon, has put his hand inside his jacket and pretended to be 10 feet tall.

Didn't work then -won't work now.

I read that transcript (Sorry--I simply can't stomach watching that little piss-ant on TV--the sound bites are more than enough) and I was struck by the similarity to the Checkers speech along with the I am Not a Crook speech. Rather a painful combo, IMO. I almost (but not quite) found myself feeling embarrassed for him. Mostly i felt bad for our nation.

I think the saddest part for me was the fact that these clowns have rewritten the story every step of the way. "It is about 9/11." "No, it isn't about 9/11 it is about WMD's." "No, it isn't about WMD's it is about freedom." "No, wait, it isn't so much about freedom, it is about..." ad nauseum.

From the very beginning they have practiced historical revisionism. THAT should never be lost on any of us, just as it should never have been lost on any of us that Nixon was representative of is ilk.


Laura

no question

with no sense of consequences." Then again, I'm not quite old enough to remember "I am not a crook."

speech - Honest - the next morning I turned on the TV for Seseme Street (kids were small) and it was like the thing had been unplugged...no buzz, no nothing. I yelled 'tricky dick broke our TV w/ his lyin' speech last night.'

totally elated when "Tricky Dick" resigned. To me he looked like an evil used car dealer.

I'll never forget it. Never.

on edit: I'm 50. Not old.

I just say we're old to humor the "you know who's". :) :)

:)

The guy who was strutting around in a pilot's costume under a banner that said "Mission Accomplished" is now petulantly whining that his failure is everybody else's fault...