Bush should be REALLY pissed at Rummy

Bush got the war he wanted. If the immediate aftermath had been conducted even marginally competently then Bush would be a hero today and he could push though his crappy domestic agenda and his so-called "legacy" would be secure. It really all went down the (aluminum) tubes with the looting. Bush himself in his speech said that his "conduct" of the war could be legitimately questioned.

This is what happens when you don't listen to your generals and are pre-occupied with riding your bike, vacationing, and cutting brush while the world goes to hell around you.

LMAO

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Rumsfeld -- not Shrub, not Big Dick -- runs the show; always has.

from the old show, The Beverly Hillbillies. I even hear him talking like Irene Ryan, too.

I think we have a candidate for the part of Jethro. And Cheney would make a good Milburn Drysdale.

The President who wasn't elected (twice) allows a SecDef to govern our great nation. That alone should be enough to impeach Bush, eh?

How about true dereliction of DUTY? I feel so betrayed by them.

TWICE, I thought for sure people would start seeing how things really work.

It would have taken hundreds of thousands more troops than we could possibly deploy. Hitler invaded Poland with 1.8 million troops, that's the kind of force we would need to successfully invade Iraq. And we don't have that many troops, our post Cold War forces were designed for a quick strike and then back home.

invasion. Wouldn't have mattered how many troops were consumed.

You seem to think that if the war was over quickly that Bush would go back to being a hero and everything would be fine.

But, look at poppy Bush, less then a year after being a war hero with 90% approval he fell into the dumps because the war was over and the average American's attention shifted to domestic issues.

If we had put in the number of troops that most military leaders said we needed; they may have been able to block most of the insurgency. But, they still could not address the underlying ethnic tensions in Iraq.

The war was a blunder, no matter how long they could have kept up the illusion of a victory. First, it would not have spread peace and democracy throughout the Middle East - as promised. Second, it did not address the issue of Middle East terrorism - which would have become obvious even without a successful insurgency. Third, we couldn't pull out the occupying troops without having Iraq deteriorate into a virtual civil war.

The invasion of Iraq was pure stupidity, carried out by people who were basing their justifications on childish pipe dreams. The invasion of Iraq did not address any of the problems that the US was facing. There was no way to keep this fact hidden for very long.

it's still baloney. Going into Iraq was a major, major strategic blunder. I guess it all goes to the question - was it ever a winnable war in the first place? You think not and I have to agree with you. So, he should still be pissed at Rummy and anyone else who convinced him that this was a good strategic move for the US

And W. would never ever be a hero to me under any circumstance for a myriad of other reasons, most of them having to do with domestic policies.

Georgie Boy is commander in chief, noone twisted his arm. He wanted the invasion and he got it, and Halliburton and all his other corporate friends made big profit, while contract workers, soldiers, and innocent Iraqis died. George Bush could care less about Iraq and the Iraqi people and reconstructing Iraq, he wanys his oil buddies to make money and other big business to exploit the Iraqis.

Yes, Rummy is a "codefendent", but the Idiot Cowboy has his name on the paper. He is responsible, and don't let him blame others.

his snarled synapses. I imagine that he must be upset with his trusted advisors that have advised him into becoming one of the most reviled and mistrusted figures in late American political history.

I think that once trust is lost in any relationship, it is very very hard to regain. Does Bush still "trust" the advice of his advisors?
If so, why?

I talked to someone today who I think is the most insightful, finger on the pulse person I know, and that person said that George Bush could actually reclaim some of his lost reputation if he would fire Karl Rove and Donald Rumsfeld immediately. Fortunately for us, because of his warped morality- that personal loyalty trumps the duties and obligations of being President- that probably won't happen.

Plus Rove and Rummy have the dirt, they know "where the bodies are".
Georgie is too stupid to be mad at Rummy - remember he doesn't read and they had to make a DVD for him about Katrina to get him off vacation. He simply refuses to acknowledge people who disagree with him, unless he uses the smear routine - eg anti-American, against the troops, for the terrorists.