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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:15 PM
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Paul Wellstone's Senate Speech against Iraq War
Every so often I think this speech, given shortly before he was killed, needs to be re-read. It should be sent to all of our current Senators. How much I miss his wisdom and insight.

Senate floor speech regarding military action in Iraq, 2002

In the middle of tough re-election campaign, Wellstone announces opposition to Iraq war resolution.


Regarding Military Action Against Iraq: October 3, 2002

Mr. President, as we turn later today to address our policy on Iraq, I want to take a few minutes to outline my views. The situation remains fluid, and Administration officials are engaged in negotiations at the United Nations over what approach we ought to take, with our allies, to disarm the brutal and dictatorial Iraqi regime.

Our debate here is critical because the administration seeks our authorization now for military action including possibly unprecedented, pre-emptive, go-it-alone military action in Iraq, even as it seeks to garner support from our allies on a tough new UN disarmament resolution.

***snip***

This debate must include all Americans, because our decisions finally must have the informed consent of the American people, who will be asked to bear the costs, in blood and treasure, of our decisions. When the lives of the sons and daughters of average Americans could be risked and lost, their voices must be heard by Congress before we make decisions about military action.

***snip***

Of first and greatest concern, obviously, are the questions raised about the possible loss of life that could result from our actions. The United States could send tens of thousands of U.S. troops to fight in Iraq, and in so doing we could risk countless lives, of U.S. soldiers and innocent Iraqis. There are other questions, about the impact of an attack in relation to our economy. The United States could face soaring oil prices and could spend billions both on a war and on a years-long effort to stabilize Iraq after an invasion. The resolution we will be debating today would explicitly authorize a go-it-alone approach.

***snip***
http://www.wellstone.org/archive/article_detail.aspx?itemID=5423&catID=3605 For the full speech.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:19 PM
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1. I wish I'd been into US politics soon enough to have known him
:cry:
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:20 PM
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2. Me, too. I came to the party too late.
:cry:
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:21 PM
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3. I met him at a fundraiser in 2002.
He was a sweet guy. Even said he was "from the democratic wing of the Democratic Party," an often used line that Howard Dean later cribbed from him.

Just goes to show, stay out of small planes if you buck the system.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 11:04 AM
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20. good rule of thumb: the more you buck the system, the bigger the plane
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:33 PM
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6. I was fortunate enough to have met him several times.
He was a true blue, down to earth, no airs man. He went out of his way to meet people (even the rank and file employees of places he was visiting) and really made everyone he met feel special.

I miss him so much. :cry:
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:29 PM
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4. Thanks for this Wellstone speech nm
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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:31 PM
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5. I'm from Minnesota
...and I have been to the crash site. This was a guy who was one special man. He was just a little guy, but towered over any room he was in. It is such a tragedy that he was replaced by such a douchebag, and I don't mean to offend douchebags around this country. I am praying that we can get someone in there who cares more about the people of Minnesota rather than just the folks that live in the Twin Cities. Al Franken kept ducking the question when he was on Imus on Thursday, but he is running.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:33 PM
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7. Remember? The polls were AGAINST WAR ! Wellstone was
a Man of the People! He represented so much that is the best in Us.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:37 PM
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8. Wellstone (a 'must see' film)
(has been shown on LINK TV)

http://www.carryitforward.org/

WELLSTONE! is a feature length documentary
about a remarkable man who defied
tradition and returned politics to people.
Like Paul Wellstone, the film is smart,
funny and full of surprises.


“an engrossing, inspiring David and Goliath tale..."
------------------------------- --City Pages

"... tremendously well done. The ending
is extremely important."
-------------------------- -------George Stoney

"A must-see for anyone interested in
creating positive change."
----------------------------------BuzzFlash.com

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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:42 PM
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9. Oh Thanks
I haven't seen it yet, but will look for it on Link TV. I know I would enjoy it tremendously. Thank you for the reminder.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:44 PM
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10. Seeing Coleman in the trailer for the movie turns my stomach.
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:19 PM
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11. that trailer almost made my cry.
he was so wonderful.

(long sigh)


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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:37 PM
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12. How fitting that the "Conscience of the Senate" died
Here Wellstone makes the case why Congress represents those who will pay for the war in blood and treasure:

It would also be a sign of the wisdom of our founders, who lodged in the President the power to command U.S. armed forces, and in Congress the power to make war, ensuring a balance of powers between co-equal branches of government. Our Constitution lodges the power to weigh the causes for war and the ability to declare war in Congress precisely to ensure that the American people and those who represent them will be consulted before military action is taken.


Here's a bit that answers some of the preznit's "everyone thought" nonsense:

I have supported internationally sanctioned coalition military action in Bosnia, in Kosovo and Serbia, and in Afghanistan. Even so, in recent weeks, I and others including major Republican policymakers like former Bush National Security Advisor Brent Scowcroft, former Bush Secretary of State James Baker, my colleague on the Foreign Relations Committee Senator Hagel, Bush Mideast Envoy General Anthony Zinni and other leading US military leaders have raised serious questions about the approach the Administration is taking on Iraq.


And, WHO KNEW it could go so badly?

There have been questions raised about the nature and urgency of Iraq's threat, our response to that threat, and against whom, exactly that threat is directed. What is the best course of action that the U.S. could take to address the threat? What are the economic, political, and national security consequences of possible U.S. or U.S.-British invasion of Iraq? There have been questions raised about the consequences of our actions abroad, including its effects on the continuing war on terrorism, our ongoing efforts to stabilize and rebuild Afghanistan, and efforts to calm the intensifying Middle East crisis, especially the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. And there have been questions raised about the consequences of our actions here at home.

Of first and greatest concern, obviously, are the questions raised about the possible loss of life that could result from our actions. The United States could send tens of thousands of U.S. troops to fight in Iraq, and in so doing we could risk countless lives, of U.S. soldiers and innocent Iraqis. There are other questions, about the impact of an attack in relation to our economy. The United States could face soaring oil prices and could spend billions both on a war and on a years-long effort to stabilize Iraq after an invasion. The resolution we will be debating today would explicitly authorize a go-it-alone approach.


http://www.wellstone.org/archive/article_detail.aspx?itemID=5423&catID=3605


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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:39 PM
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13. WilliamPitt, DS1 and Myself were pulling into DC when they announced his
death. NEVER forget it. first PRE-WAR anti-war rally in HISTORY. called Will on his cell. from car to car.

"Wellstone is dead", I said.

unbelievable
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 07:37 PM
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17. The very thought that went through my head
"damn, they killed him".
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 11:25 PM
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19. When I heard that on NPR, was the very exact thought that went through my
mind....OMG! They killed him....

I had chills...I still do....

I bet many people had that same feeling....
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 04:19 PM
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22. I'm in Minnesota, and that was my thought. I still can't believe he's
gone. He was such a part of our landscape here, so needed, so necessary.
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 05:27 PM
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23. That was my first thought, too
I had gone out to run some errands, I was at the bank waiting in line outdoors and the top of the hour news came on with the bulletin that his plane had gone down. Within a few minutes there was another news flash that confirmed that Senator Paul Wellstone was dead. I was numb. Needless to say, I couldn't finish my errands. I came home sobbing, telling my husband, "They killed him, they f***ing killed him. He had no idea what I was talking about.

It was confirmed to me when Senator Tom Harkin came out of his home to make a statement regarding Wellstone's passing very early on. He could barely contain his tears and was physically held up by his wife and daughter. He knew that Paul was wiped out because Paul was right and people were starting to take notice and the administration would have none of that.

Very sad day indeed. That is why I posted his speech regarding the war in Iraq. When I heard Bush trying to say that people are trying to re-write history regarding the start of the war, I was incensed. Just wanted those who are new to DU or to politics or those who are lurking to know that there were brave souls who were questioning our government and what happened to them. He is sorely missed.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 11:35 AM
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21. I will never forget either
because I live in a small town not far from the crash site and can't believe that the crash happened at all....weather wise. We had smaller planes in and out of our little airport that day. IT SMELLS.......STILL!!! Does anyone else remember hearing that Ted Kennedy was supposed to be on that plane too? I know TK was in MN that morning, in the Cities, and at the last minute decided not to go to the funeral.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:43 PM
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14. Just think, he may have died himself partly as a result of his efforts
against the war.

The book that he wrote shortly before he died, "The Conscience of a Liberal", is worth reading.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:47 PM
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15. Good idea to re-issue this to Dems. Recommended. n/t
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 06:30 PM
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16. Climate in 2003: To speak out against war resolution = getting Wellstoned,
Edited on Sat Nov-12-05 06:34 PM by fearnobush
Or Kelly'ed, and just to make it not too obvious, getting turned in to a child molester like they did to Scott Ridder. So Mr. Chimp, the one Senator the spoke the truth, who was turning the tide on your war lie suddenly dies in a plane wreck, and the one man in the UK that had the real intel and knew the WMD was a farce decided to jump off a tall building? Fu*kin' murderer.

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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 09:54 PM
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18. "this will be the biggest Al Qaida recruiting drive, ever"
Attribution: Congressman and Senate candidate Sherrod Brown of Ohio
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