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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:41 PM
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GOP memo touts new terror attack as way to reverse party's decline
I am not sure I believe this. Could the Republicans really be this stupid???? Probably not but you never know.

GOP memo touts new terror attack as way to reverse party's decline
By DOUG THOMPSON
Publisher, Capitol Hill Blue
Nov 10, 2005, 06:19




A confidential memo circulating among senior Republican leaders suggests that a new attack by terrorists on U.S. soil could reverse the sagging fortunes of President George W. Bush as well as the GOP and "restore his image as a leader of the American people."

The closely-guarded memo lays out a list of scenarios to bring the Republican party back from the political brink, including a devastating attack by terrorists that could “validate” the President’s war on terror and allow Bush to “unite the country” in a “time of national shock and sorrow.”

The memo says such a reversal in the President's fortunes could keep the party from losing control of Congress in the 2006 midterm elections.

GOP insiders who have seen the memo admit it’s a risky strategy and point out that such scenarios are “blue sky thinking” that often occurs in political planning sessions.

Continued at:
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/printer_7639.shtml
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:43 PM
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1. Sorry...Capitol Hill Blue is a rag...
No attention should be paid to them!!!
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:48 PM
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5. I often hear this but no one ever gives a good reason to believe this
Could you please list some examples of Doug Thompson being wrong? After all, he did work for the Regan Administration and knows one hell of a lot of Republican insiders.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:21 PM
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14. sigh...
Remember when MoveOn lied about pResident Weaksuck's swell Social Security plan? Doug Thompson does...

Remember when David Rosen blew the lid off Hillary Clinton's corruption? Doug Thompson does....

Almost nobody else does, because Doug pulled those "scoops" out of his doughy ass....
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:26 PM
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15. Perhaps that is why Doug Thompson switched sides
Because he realized the people who were feeding him this info were full of shit.

Just being the devils advocate.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 08:37 PM
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19. Or more likely, he's full of crap himself....
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A Brand New World Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:43 PM
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2. MIHOP - Part Deux
n/t
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:43 PM
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3. DU Rule 7, subsection 2(a)
"Anything appearing on Capitol Hill Blue should be ignored."
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:54 PM
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7. Please elaborate with solid examples of them being wrong please
I often hear they are full of shit but no one can produce evidence of this. Doug Thompson is a former Reagan Administration official and probably has a number of contacts inside the Bush Administration.

I have read a number of their articles and find them pretty good. Mostly articles about how the lower level Bush Administration officials are sick of Bush going off the handle and losing his mind. Not too hard to believe under the circumstances.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:58 PM
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10. Shoe on other foot
It is their responsibility to attribute the source of their information. Not only has this never, repeat NEVER happened--their 'scoops' have never been confirmed independently after the fact.

You decide. Sounds like a whole lot of wishful thinking bullshit to me.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:05 PM
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11. Their sources are inside the Bush administration
How on earth could Doug Thompson reveal them without them being fired? I agree the burden is on them but that doesn't mean we know for sure he is lying. The fact that he use to be in the Regan Administration and turned against Bush says something. Doug Thompson absolutely HATES Bush and their has to be a reason for this.

I certainly don't think his articles should be stated as fact but I think they are absolutely fine for discussion and to be bantered around.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:38 PM
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16. The fact that DT hates Bush argues against the stories' credibility --
not for it.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:42 PM
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18. What are your thoughts on this
Edited on Sat Nov-12-05 05:43 PM by Quixote1818
http://www.reason.com/hitandrun/2004/06/tracking_down_t.shtml

Yeah, Doug Thompson got screwed by a phony source a year ago, and Capitol Hill Blue quickly 'fessed up to the screwing. If only the NYT would be so honest about how Chalabi has been conning them for a dozen years. (Imagine Judith Miller writing what Thompson wrote: "I was wrong. I'm sorry.")

The "conned big time" correction is pretty interesting reading. (Linked above in Phil's comment.) It's also tough to figure out what was really *wrong* about the phony source story:

On Tuesday, we ran a story headlined "White House admits Bush wrong about Iraqi nukes." For the first time, Wilkinson said he was willing to go on the record and told a story about being present, as a CIA contract consultant, at two briefings with Bush. He said he was retired now and was fed up and wanted to go public.
"He (Bush) said that if the current operatives working for the CIA couldn't prove the story was true, then the agency had better find some who could," Wilkinson said in our story. "He said he knew the story was true and so would the world after American troops secured the country."


A reliable spook -- known to various GOP pols --feeds Thompson all sorts of solid leads over twenty years, and then vanishes after one is said to be false. And the "false" story then makes it to CNN and a zillion web pages. Sounds like somebody in intelligence was sick of the Chalabi version and wanted to make Bush suffer. Well, it worked!

Also on Capitol Hill Blue: This weirdly disturbing June 4 piece on "Bush's erratic behavior" since the war went sour. I wish Will Ferrell was still on SNL to act out this story.

(I've met Thompson, as has Reason's "boy intern" Matt Welch. Doug's a smart, nice guy & has been publishing Capitol Hill Blue for 10 years.)

Comment by: Ken Layne at June 8, 2004 05:14 AM

http://www.reason.com/hitandrun/2004/06/tracking_down_t.shtml

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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:46 PM
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4. can you imagine a democratic administration doing this?
passing around a memo saying, for instance, "we're having a tough time passing polution curbs; a bhopal-like disaster would be very helpful now"

or

"a bird flu pandemic could provide the necessary votes to support universal health insurance"


democrats would be so impeached for even thinking such things....
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:48 PM
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6. I'd like a couple of other sources.
If this memo is real, it's treason.
The "aides" and "Republicans" who are hiding such a memo are also guilty of treason. The memo "suggests" the use of terror on Americans. It was written by a traitor. The CBS debacle comes to mind. The facts were obscured by the falsified source. A tried and true Rover trick.

So, it's either....
Falsified (dirty trick) by WH ops to take attention off Scooter, WMDs, Iraq, polls, other dirty tricks and illegal activities. (If they planned it right it will bring down a couple of legit reporters and marginalize Liberal/Democratic complaints.)
Or
It's real and this is the tip of the iceberg. Capitolhillblue is entertaining in the way Flocco draws interest. But every once in a while they hit the truth. (Broken clock)

It comes down to, where's the memo? Can we see it? Who wrote it? To whom? We need all our facts with verification. I want LOTS of indictments.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:56 PM
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8. I would not put it past them from staging an attack,
after all the "threats" and the rallying cry for the "war" on terror, aren't working anymore. Iraq and the Bush domestic agenda have done that one in.

Americans just don't TRUST Bush and the GOP anymore. But of course, we New Yorkers were NEVER fooled in the first place by this man and his neocons.

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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:57 PM
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9. It would have the opposite effect
Another terrorist attack on US soil would just underscore the fact that we are NOT any safer with Bush at the helm.

To the public it would just another broken promise from the shrub.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:08 PM
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13. The article suggests that some Republicans agree with you
Other Republicans, however, worry that such a scenario carries high risk, pointing out that an attack might suggest the President has not done enough to protect the country.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:07 PM
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12. Would An Attack Validate The W.O.T.?
Edited on Sat Nov-12-05 05:08 PM by iamjoy
It seems to me that an attack on US soil could invalidate the War on Terror.

I thought we were fighting them over there so we wouldn't have to fight them here.

Then again, given this administration's talent for spin, one never knows. I wouldn't be too surprised if something comes down in the weeks before the Nov 2006 election. Now, I'm not such a conspiracy theorist that I blieve our government would actively plan an attack on U.S. soil and pin it on terrorists, but fail to pursue a lead with the attitude of "the worst that could happen...this would get support for the administration" Yeah, you could sell me that. Didn't something similar happen in Mario Puzo's The Fourth K? Truth is stranger than fiction...
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jim3775 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:39 PM
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17. I'm starting a news source called West Wing Insider
Edited on Sat Nov-12-05 05:40 PM by jim3775
I have real inside the white house sources. I'm printing it on the internet so it must be true. Ignore all the false stories West Wing Insider printed about Bill Clinton in the 90's, West Wing Insider is anti-bush now.


Dick Cheney's OxyContin addiction interrupts his planning for "Plan X"

By JIM3775
Publisher, West Wing Insider
Nov. 11, 2005, 5:30pm

A confidential memo circulating among white house staff; leaked exclusively to West Wing Insider suggests that Dick Cheney has taken a cue from Rush Limbaugh and become addicted to the popular pain medication OxyContin.

Staffers are worried that his thinking has been compromised and the memo suggests that "Plan X" needs to be reassigned to another white house staffer.

Is "Plan X" a new terrorist attack, a weather control scheme or some other sinister plot. Only time will tell.

/:sarcasm:
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