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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:54 PM
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Capital Hill Blue And The Inquirer At Bullshit Sources.
We should not be repeating their crap as the truth here.

That is all...

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Halliburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:56 PM
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1. you forgot tom flocco
I've seen his outrageous work posted around here quite a bit. It's a hilarious read, but not a credible source.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:57 PM
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2. True, True. While We Are At It. Drudge Report For Christ Sake!
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:12 PM
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20. David Icke!
I've seen the "Lizards from Hars" guy quoted around here as an "authority".....
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:22 PM
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9. Now Tom Flocco is definitely full of shit but I am still not convinced
that Capitol Hill Blue is.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 04:59 PM
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3. NewsMax, Drudge, the list goes on
I vote that DU adopt a rule banning such sources.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:03 PM
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17. Hiow about the NYT? I mean Judith Miller proved that is
as unreliable... or shall we just let people make their own minds without nannys watchng over us?

We can make our own minds you know.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:11 PM
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19. banning news sources? How utterly rightwing of you. n/t
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 03:33 PM
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23. But Drudge Report does have links to very reliable sources.
So he is not all bullshit.
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:00 PM
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4. wait a minute..

Are you talking about the 'National Enquirer'?

I haven't looked at Capitol Hill Blue that much, I only recall a dust-up about some article from it a year or two ago, and that was that.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:01 PM
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5. Yep.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:08 PM
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6. Lew Rockwell is an actual neoNazi
with ties to the neoConfederate movement...

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:15 PM
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:20 PM
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8. Care to elaborate rather than just throw out fluff?
CHB is often dissed on DU but I am still waiting for someone to give me a sold reason as to why?

Sure they never give their sources because they are INSIDE the Bush administration. I read all their articles and they are no less believable than most sites. Why is it so hard to believe Bush is losing his mind under the kind of stress he is in and who better to have access to his Administration than a former Reagan Administration official who turned against Bush?

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:25 PM
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15. Funny, I gave you some solid reasons in another thread
and you blew them off.

"I read all their articles and they are no less believable than most sites."
Hey, to the gullible, everything has credibility.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:23 PM
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10. I don't get it either
I used to hang out on their bulletin board. A good mix of right and left and good debate.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:25 PM
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:38 PM
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12. Here is some interesting insider info on Doug Thompson
Yeah, Doug Thompson got screwed by a phony source a year ago, and Capitol Hill Blue quickly 'fessed up to the screwing. If only the NYT would be so honest about how Chalabi has been conning them for a dozen years. (Imagine Judith Miller writing what Thompson wrote: "I was wrong. I'm sorry.")

The "conned big time" correction is pretty interesting reading. (Linked above in Phil's comment.) It's also tough to figure out what was really *wrong* about the phony source story:

On Tuesday, we ran a story headlined "White House admits Bush wrong about Iraqi nukes." For the first time, Wilkinson said he was willing to go on the record and told a story about being present, as a CIA contract consultant, at two briefings with Bush. He said he was retired now and was fed up and wanted to go public.
"He (Bush) said that if the current operatives working for the CIA couldn't prove the story was true, then the agency had better find some who could," Wilkinson said in our story. "He said he knew the story was true and so would the world after American troops secured the country."


A reliable spook -- known to various GOP pols --feeds Thompson all sorts of solid leads over twenty years, and then vanishes after one is said to be false. And the "false" story then makes it to CNN and a zillion web pages. Sounds like somebody in intelligence was sick of the Chalabi version and wanted to make Bush suffer. Well, it worked!

Also on Capitol Hill Blue: This weirdly disturbing June 4 piece on "Bush's erratic behavior" since the war went sour. I wish Will Ferrell was still on SNL to act out this story.

(I've met Thompson, as has Reason's "boy intern" Matt Welch. Doug's a smart, nice guy & has been publishing Capitol Hill Blue for 10 years.)

Comment by: Ken Layne at June 8, 2004 05:14 AM

http://www.reason.com/hitandrun/2004/06/tracking_down_t.shtml

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 11:16 AM
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13. And so you trotted out Reason magazine as a source
to vouch for Doug Thompson?

Hahahahahahahaha.......

Reason is a right wing puddle of pus. Anybody who believes that crap deserves nothing but ridicule.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 11:17 AM
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14. Could not disagree more
Without a free press, EVERY source is valuable to me. I have to ability to discern what makes sense.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:41 PM
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16. So is the rest of the US Media, ALL OF IT,
Edited on Sun Nov-13-05 01:42 PM by nadinbrzezinski
NYT, WaPo, CNN, FOX, that is all, anybody who beleives then implicitely because they are main stream needs to learn to question

We do not live in a free country and we do not have a free press, and some of these questionable sources, are your rumor mills of the ancien regime... look it up
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:06 PM
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18. I think it's all hilarious and I'll read and discuss what I want.
You're making a mistake trying to tell 70k+ independent thinkers what to read or believe. That just doesn't fly around here.

If a story or scenario, such as Bush going bananas, comes from various sources in various ways, then usually there is some truth in it. If there is a planted story somewhere or an outright lie, it usually comes and goes as fast as you can say 'pickles'. When I see variations of a story from different people over a long period of time, I'm inclined to believe the truth lies somewhere between total lie and gospel truth. As IS my right.

And, THAT is all.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 03:06 PM
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21. The Enquirer had the scoop on Limbaugh's criminal drug abuse
but, i would still not use them as a primary source unless I got backup.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 03:30 PM
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22. the Inquirer?
the Cincinnati Inquirer? a bit of a rightist rag, but sheesh, not worth banning.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 03:35 PM
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24. The National Enquirer yep that rag that actually broke the
limbaugh is a druggie story, proving once again that even a broken clock is right twice a day
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 03:41 PM
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25. oh, the Enquirer
actually, while it's a vapid paper, a good chunk of it is perfectly reasonable, otherwise the libel suits would shut them down.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 03:43 PM
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26. They got intio some trouble in the 90s iirc
they fact checking department has gotten pretty good since then... to ahem avoid the lawsuits
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