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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:31 PM
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Air America replacing Marc Maron with Rachel Maddow?
From Daily Kos:


Air America replacing Marc Maron with Rachel Maddow?

by hbyronk
Sun Nov 13, 2005 at 10:47:18 AM PDT
The reason Air America has been playing contract hardball with "Morning Sedition" co-host Marc Maron comes into clearer focus after reading an article in this morning's New York Times. The piece focuses on Randi Rhodes and Rachel Maddow as the network's breakout stars. Randi gets her due as the second highest-rated host after Al Franken.

Rachel's inclusion is a little harder to understand. The angle of the article is "women on talk radio." Rachel, frankly, has a higher profile for her appearances on "The Situation with Tucker Carlson" than she does for her pre-dawn news show on Air America, a fact acknowleged in the article. But, the following passage indicates that Air America has bigger plans for her:

"Air America has to look beyond Franken and Garofalo," Mr. Harrison said, "and Rachel and Randi are turning out to be quite good, and quite successful for them."

The network is expected to announce imminently a move by Ms. Maddow into a more prominent morning drive-time role.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/11/13/124718/18



The NYT article:


They Look Nothing Like Rush Limbaugh

By SUSAN BRENNA
Published: November 13, 2005
RACHEL MADDOW is the sunny, 32-year-old early bird of liberal talk radio, who spices her pre-dawn newscast on the Air America network with news of the weird. "I have to tell you about this story, or it will possess me for the rest of my natural-born life," Ms. Maddow mentioned one very early morning last month.


Randi Rhodes, above, and Rachel Maddow bring different styles to a talk-radio scene dominated by male voices. They are, said Danny Goldberg, Air America's chief executive, "the two people who have emerged in dramatic fashion."

A Chinese man had been harvesting bile for medicine from the gall bladders of live bears until the day before, when his bears ate him. "You keep six bears and poke them with a sharp stick through their abdomen every day for their bile," Ms. Maddow said in a buoyant rapid fire, "eventually they're going to make their own decision, don't you think?"

Ms. Maddow's Air America colleague, Randi Rhodes, is a more political, more acidly caustic voice who calls the Bush administration "the dark side." On Ms. Rhodes's four-hour afternoon show, she's the middle-aged woman (she's 46) who doesn't have the time or patience to be nice. "You're a pig!" she cries at whatever male conservative broadcaster has angered her that day.


Rachel Maddow, 32, hosts a pre-dawn radio newscast on Air America.

They are two sides of the liberal talk-radio coin. In their own small way, over at the far end of the AM dial where Air America is broadcast in most of its 72 cities, Ms. Maddow and Ms. Rhodes are changing the world of talk radio. Michael Harrison, editor of the trade magazine Talkers, said that, "For the most part, political talk radio is male," dominated by conservative broadcasters like Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage. "But in the next 5 to 10 years we're going to see an invasion of talk radio by women of all political and subject stripes."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/13/arts/13bren.html

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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:37 PM
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1. Yeah - Rachel One Smart
woman. An Oxford gal.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:38 PM
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2. I love morning sedition and Mark Maron but i also really love Maddow.
the whole situation really sucks, they should keep Maron and give Maddow a better time slot.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:51 PM
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9. They should give Rachel M. Springer's spot....
I know he has his following, but he drives me absolutley mad between his pandering MO (constantly apologizes for the Bushies, so as not to offend Freepers in the listening audience) and his earnest discussion of the extremely obvious. It feels like listening to a very precocious 8 year old each day relaying in such a sincere and earnest fashion their limited understanding of the news of the day. One finds them charming for about the first 10 minutes, but it gets old--really old.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:52 PM
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10. thats really a good idea, i'm not a fan of Springers show and i'm not
sure what niche if any he fills.
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dennisnyc Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:05 PM
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16. ditto, really old, really fast! I often think i'll give him another try
but i can't stomach it.

Rachel is the best. I put the mp3 on my computer right after Democracy Now! News junky Heaven!
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 04:11 PM
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23. Springer brings nothing to the air.
I think he's there because of name recognition.

I know it's fashionable to knock Franken but he is brilliant and has great guests, and imparts lots of new information.

Rachel is wonderful. It's hard to do three hours, and her outside activities may spread he thin but this would be a good slot for her.

Down side for me is that I will miss her during working hours, and now I can wake up to her show,

--IMM
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CheshireCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 04:51 PM
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26. Yeah, the Springer spot
is the one that Rachel Maddow originally had. (along with Chuck D & Liz Someone). I was very upset when they replaced the show with Springer, but I started downloading Maddow and Morning Sedition and listening to them while Springer was on. Now I am hooked on Morning Sedition and Maddow.

I will say this for Springer's show. Many of my coworkers have started listening to Air America since his show started. Now some of them are listening to Franken and Rhodes.

Hopefully, they will find another spot for Mark Maron - he is GREAT!

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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:39 PM
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3. AAR is destroying 'Morning Sedition'
cuz goldberg doesn't like Maron. I hear Rachel occasionally (I'm usually not awake @ 2AM-LCZ (LeftCoastZone). She will be no companion 2 Mark Riley, unless AAR is planning on ridding itself of Riley as well. I like Mark Riley. I like the perspective he brings to current events. He has a great radio voice. With 'Morning Sedition' destroyed, I'll only have Malloy 2 tune in on AAR.
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:54 PM
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12. I just can't get excited about Mike Malloy
I know many people here like him, but I don't. I've tuned in several times (including last night) hoping I could learn to like him, but his show seems like one long rant. Anyone here could do just as well or better from a basement studio.

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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:54 PM
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13. I like the Marks when they work together. They are very
comfortable with one another and sound like they have a personal friendship as well. Riley has mentored Maron and I like how that whole interaction has illustrated how a political conscious matures and expands.

I also like Rachel a lot. This is tough because I really want Maron to stay. Hell, he was in on the birth of AAR and deserves recognition for sticking with it when things were really rough.
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Talismom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:35 PM
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18. That's exactly how I feel. I'm just devoted to Malloy and like both
Rachael and the Marc/Marks. Springer and Franken are essentially redundant and often hard to take, as far as I'm concerned and Randi I can only take in small doses when she starts talking over experts and interupting her callers.
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:56 PM
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19. One thing thing that no one can deny is that Randi
above all others has her facts together and is more knowledgeable, especially with what is going on in the congress and senate. And, if she doesn't know something, she will delve into it until she does. I listen to Randi because of fact that she does try to keep the public informed to what is going on, which is exactly the opposite of media in this country. Yes, she does have a tendency to at time get somewhat obnoxious with her callers, but if that is all I have to put up with to get the truth, well then it is worth it.
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dennisnyc Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:42 PM
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4. the article is full of factual errors. I wouldn't worry about it.
one factual error for starters:

"Earlier this fall the network started an online fund-raising similar to a public radio campaign."

The Air America Associates campaign was NOTHING at all like an NPR campaign. NPR campaigns run on and on for hours, preempting programming and begging for money. I listen to AAR a lot and never heard such a boring and rambling appeal.

I do think that the new Asociates program may be a lot like the Nation Associates--a successful program of the Nation Institute, publisher of the Nation Magazine. IF AAR is modeling itself after the Nation, we are in for some interesting and long-lasting intelligent counter voices in the radio market. The Nation is 137 years old.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:44 PM
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5. More from the NYT article:
"The network's biggest stars can be distracted. Ms. Garofalo was off filming episodes of "The West Wing" this fall, and Mr. Franken has said that he might run for Senate in Minnesota. "Air America has to look beyond Franken and Garofalo," Mr. Harrison said, "and Rachel and Randi are turning out to be quite good, and quite successful for them."

The network is expected to announce imminently a move by Ms. Maddow into a more prominent morning drive-time role. She also has a gig debating the conservative commentator Tucker Carlson on his MSNBC show, "The Situation," and a contract to appear on other MSNBC programs. "Rachel is the universal donor of good chemistry," said Bill Wolff, the network's vice president of primetime programming. "You can put her on to talk to just about anybody about just about anything, and she comes across as just so cheerful and hopeful and likable," he said.

And Ms. Rhodes is collaborating with the concert promoter John Sher on a live comedy and music show that she expects to try out in New York then take on the road.

Ms. Rhodes is the longtime radio broadcaster, having worked her way up through consecutively bigger markets from her first job, 20 years ago, at a storefront station in West Texas."


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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:45 PM
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6. Maddow is great....
Her show is a great tool for obtaining an effective daily synopsis of current events and issues that need attention from liberals. I love the Marks as well but if it turns out that they've got to go then filling that slot with Maddow will greatly soften the blow.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:50 PM
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8. I'm happy to see that she is going to be signing a larger contract
with MSNBC - hopefully, we will see much more of her. She is a great spokeswoman on TV. Plus, the face time on TV should bring more people to her show (whenever it is on) and AAR in general.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:47 PM
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7. Rachel is good, her show is smart and tightly produced.
But damnit, who said that Morning Sedition has to go to keep Rachel? This sucks big time. I love M.S.

Rachel isn't specifically funny and that's okay. But AAR needs to keep the humorous edge in their program schedule. Killing M.S. will take off the boldest, edgiest humor in their schedule. It will lessen AAR, IMHO.

I will continue to listen to Rachel but will deeply miss Marc and Mark who, in my opinion, have the best framed opinion on AAR. Their on-the-edge humorous routines are a wonderful way to bring complex political subjects to the public. Maron and Riley are the obvious creative force behind this, with Maron taking a front seat. Without Marc and Mark, AAR quality will suffer.
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:52 PM
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11. I love Rachel Maddow! - she'd be great
very impressed with her radio professoinalism
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:56 PM
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14. Isn't Franken leaving AAR to run for the Senate? Maybe Rachel will
replace him and not Mark Maron? That would make more sense to me. They will need someone to replace Franken, right?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:00 PM
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15. The article says the announcement is "imminent" and for "morning
Edited on Sun Nov-13-05 02:02 PM by Pirate Smile
drive-time" which wouldn't fit Franken's slot.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:12 PM
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17. I predict that when Franken goes...
Thom Hartmann will get his spot (I've been predicting this for a while). They've already picked up the rights to his show and he's on at the same time as Franken already.
I'm glad they want to make more use of Rachel but I'd miss Marc.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 03:01 PM
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20. Oooooh. Thom Hartmann would be AWESOME.
That man is brilliant and AAR would be VERY wise to put him in the line-up.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 10:45 AM
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29. I'm sure that was the plan at the time that slot
was offered to Thom Hartmann - it was a great decision, and I love listening to TH every day. Al Franken is awesome, but he just doesn't translate very well to radio. I rarely hear Morning Sedition anymore, as the show is on from 5:00 to 8:00 here, and the signal isn't strong enough to pick up on my home & car radio...I can only listen online, and I get to work around 8:00 each morning...
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 03:44 PM
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21. Much as I would miss Marc Maron...
It would sure be great to hear Rachel at some time when I'm actually awake. I love her references and rapid-fire delivery! (I'm not so fond of her not-obviously-funny sidekick that she laughs at so hysterically, though.)
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 04:33 PM
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24. "not-obviously-funny sidekick" Kent Jones is the voice of Lawton Smalls
Edited on Sun Nov-13-05 04:34 PM by checks-n-balances
from Morning Sedition. He may not be that funny as himself, but with that new information, would you care to revise your opinion now?:P
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 03:57 PM
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22. Wasnt' Rachel in Springers time slot once before,and wasn't int cancelled?
Due to poor rating?

Seems silly to cast other people off the network to give her another chance...

Does she partially own AAR or something?
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 05:15 PM
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27. Unfiltered had Maddow, Winstead and Chuck D. A number of stations
didn't carry it. Here on the West Coast my local station had it on for a short time and then changed to repeating Morning Sedition in our drive time. There was some shake up at AAR and Winstead, who was more than just an on air personality for AAR, left. This was shortly after Goldberg arrived at AAR. Then the show itself was cancelled.

I'm not so sure the only or main reason Unfiltered was cancelled was due to ratings. It was a fun, informative, quirky show IMO. I suspect AAR management at the time and perhaps now too (Goldberg?) doesn't like quirky. After AAR put Springer (who already was syndicated) in that timeslot, my local AAR station continued to carry a repeat of MS for our drivetime.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 04:38 PM
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25. I thought I heard they secured Jim Hightower to replace Maron.
was it on Kos?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 10:34 AM
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28. kick
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