wow chuck hagel (R) just reamed bush a new one...... any idea why?

did somebody get a soul as an early christmas gift?

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Hagel_blasts_Bush_for_attacking_war_1115.html

and has figured out that Bushism isn't selling very well any more. He and some of the other so-called moderates are running away from Bush as fast as they can.

Plus or minus three percent.

Tue Nov-15-05 05:46 PM
GOP senator hits Bush for attacking war critics; Hints Congress endorsing

also, he has been critical of the handling of the war for some time now

He is quite conservative, but right on this issue

Good for him. We need about 4 more to do the right thing and we are on our way to taking back america from the Bush Family Evil Empire!

I can assure you that he's running for President in 2008. No question.

He has not "grown a soul", he's merely smart enough to know that he needs to distance himself from the RMS Bushco.

just as he was in Argentina.

I think he voted for the resolution, but that goes to show that the resolution vote isn't necessarily a good yardstick -- he was clearly antiwar all along, much more clearly so than most of the Democrats in the Senate.

He was also the only Republican who questioned Bush/Cheney tactics during the 2000 Florida recount. He just seems to be a good guy in certain important contexts.

I never understood this guy.
Just what does he stand for??

He's a Politician. What do you think he stands for?

They're all friendly with each other and then one fish starts swimming funny..pretty soon they are all pecking at him..

*²'s swimming funny these days :)

He said exactly what Kerry said yesterday. How dare you say that about another Vietnam Vet. Have you ever served, as the wife of a Vietnam Vet your remark makes me sick. That is so low.

Do you have the same feelings about McCain?

May I suggest anything negative about McCain, or is he off limits as a vet?

Answer the question. You know to throw out words, when you do not even understand what they mean is lame.

End of discussion.

Hagel voted for IWR too. How is he in a different boat than Kerry?

Or the $87 billions, or the vote AGAINST the Levin Amendment.

Hagel is there each time the Republicans need his vote.

another McCain in the sense that they cave to Bush always. I watched him do it during the campaign last year.

have some interest in ESS--one of those companies that made voting machines?

Praise for a Republican and not a peep for a Democrat. With friends like these...

I havent yet sung my praise for Hagel yet. i just wanted to know if anyone knew why he came out so hard against der furher?

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http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0131-01.htm

Then this

http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2004/03/03_200.html

And

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0301/S00166.htm

There are plenty more. Chuck Hagel appears to have positioned himself very well indeed for 2008. He comes from nowhere, wins a Senate seat under a very dark cloud of suspicion and is now trying to act like..Bush who? You want a definition of dirty down low scheming politician? That would be Chuck Hagel. And he plays it so nice and sweet.

yech

He's had serious qualms about this war for a very long time, as has John Warner of Virginia. If you look back at their joint appearances with Democrat senators during the campaign, these two rarely defended the administration against Democrats' attacks. They knew more than they could (or would) say. If the truth were known, I'd bet they didn't vote for Bush. I don't agree with Hagel on many issues, but I believe that he is a man of principle, and I think he is finally letting his principles overtake his devotion to the Republican Party.
As for running for president in '08, yes, he wants to run. If he were to run as an independent, he might very well win, but he doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of getting the Republican nomination.

With his background, the guy can't lose!

too bad he couldn't find it in himself to say this 3 years ago. Now it looks like he has an ulterior motive...PRESIDENTIAL RUN IN '08? and he's wanting the "moderate" vote? Maybe?

Also, now that his party is in the damn toilet, he wants to "make nice" with the Democrats?:eyes:

Always remember...ES&S evoting machines in the 2002 mid-term election. He STOLE his seat.

Sure he's a GOP conservative, and he owns a voting machine company.

But I've always been impressed by the fact that Hagel has never been a rubber stamp GOP type. He's always struck me as being reasonable and intellectually honest. He's also been openly skeptical about the war and critical of Bush's handling of it for a good long while.

I don't think he's just jumping ship now because it's the thing to do. Nor do I think it's just presidential calculation.

Call me silly, but I think it is possible to be a republican and also have some character and political integrity.

You have read the story about Hagel and the 2002 mid-term election and the ES&S evoting machines (which he owns/owned (?), right? Election eve polls had his opponent way ahead, but Hagel won? He won HUGE in an AA DEMOCRATIC precinct that just happened to use ES&S evoting machines? IMCPO, he has no more integrity or character than any other repuke.

I'm still thankful he spoke up though. It's about time.

regularly and early in htis whole process. he has been working with the dems for a while to get on this iraq war thing, doesnt like it a bit and the way it has been handled and where we are, every step of the way

hagel has been speaking out, this isnt new. dont know baout the ripping bush up, didnt read what he said today, but i would imagine he is might pissed

Or an independent one. In '08 that is. It's all very tentative, and my guess is he'll try to seek the Republican nomination first. But there has been chatter among anonymous sources close to him (quoted on some blogs and some political columns) that he might make an independent bid in '08, although he's leaving open the possibility of endorsing John McCain if he gets the Republican nomination.

he's not going to win by supporting bush

well actually he could win anyway because he has ties to the voting machine companies.

standing under a tent with no holes in it in a rainstorm ain't it Chuck.

Of course, it is so great to praise Republicans without asking yourself what is behind?

it happen! No souls in THIS GOP.

yesterday as he was falling over himself chastening his fellow dems for questioning the lead up to the war.

Seriously, he's using Clark's 2004 campaign message almost verbatim. He has always been *somewhat* critical of this war though.