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Old Vet Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:41 PM
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Sen. Biden says like edwards, He made a mistake voting.....
to go to war! Thats two senators with the balls to say it,Its a start.
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Old Vet Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:42 PM
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1. Sen. Biden said this with John King on the situation tonite.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:42 PM
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2. There have been more than that, but good to see that Biden
said that. He must be feeling the pressure if he wants to run in 08.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:43 PM
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3. Kerry said it too
though I'm shocked that Biden admitted it--as I recall he was very strongly for the resolution.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:43 PM
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5. Well, up to Bayh and Hillary now!
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:52 PM
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12. Biden was strongly for the resolution DESPITE the
aside he had with Colin Powell about the intelligence supporting the war. If someone I trusted said what Powell said to him, I would have had severe misgivings about casting that vote.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1912898

He can run in 2008 but I am not supporting him. I think he goes whichever way the wind is blowing... and the wind is definitely not with * admin right now.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:43 PM
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4. finally, about time Joe, glad you did it
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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:48 PM
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6. a year and some months late..
Sorry Joe, No cigar!:thumbsdown:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:49 PM
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7. Who said this on October 26?
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The country and the Congress were misled into war. I regret that we were not given the truth; as I said more than a year ago, knowing what we know now, I would not have gone to war in Iraq. And knowing now the full measure of the Bush Administration's duplicity and incompetence, I doubt there are many members of Congress who would give them the authority they abused so badly. I know I would not. The truth is, if the Bush Administration had come to the United States Senate and acknowledged there was no "slam dunk case" that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, acknowledged that Iraq was not connected to 9/11, there never would have even been a vote to authorize the use of force -- just as there's no vote today to invade North Korea, Iran, Cuba, or a host of regimes we rightfully despise.

I understand that as much as we might wish it, we can't rewind the tape of history. There is, as Robert Kennedy once said, 'enough blame to go around,' and I accept my share of the responsibility. But the mistakes of the past, no matter who made them, are no justification for marching ahead into a future of miscalculations and misjudgments and the loss of American lives with no end in sight. We each have a responsibility, to our country and our conscience, to be honest about where we should go from here. It is time for those of us who believe in a better course to say so plainly and unequivocally.


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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5177000&mesg_id=5177000
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:58 AM
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35. I would not have gone to war in Iraq.
And I thought they had all been claiming they didn't vote to go to war but just to give Bush* authority if need be. :crazy: I wish they would say what they mean and mean what they say but they are politicians and I guess we just can't expect the truth from any of them...
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:50 PM
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8. Three Senators. Kerry's on the list, too.
nt
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:59 PM
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14. At least four.
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 08:00 PM by bornskeptic
Harkin was the first, almost two years ago.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:05 PM
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18. Add those who voted "No" at the start.
It's happening. Support for the Iraq war in Congress is crumbling.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:20 PM
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19. Rockefeller did too.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:54 PM
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32. Rockefeller did so in JULY of 2004. n/t
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TiredOfLies Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:51 PM
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9. It is way tooooo late, they are just
campaigning,they should have had the balls to start investigating when Richard Clark went public..
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fbahrami Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:51 PM
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10. Amen!
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:51 PM
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11. The DLC rats are fleeing the ship, too!
The Democratic Party should shed these folks, in my opinion.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:53 PM
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13. So eventually, all the Dems will say they made a mistake, and
and none of the repbs will. It's like everything else.
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Tomee450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:59 PM
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15. He and others are only
saying this now because the president and Republican party's poll numbers are low. I would have more respect for him had he spoken out earlier.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:00 PM
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16. All the little ball size Senators wait for the medium ball sized..
Senators , who waited for the Big Ball Senator's ,that voted NO
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:02 PM
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17. But he refuses to state that Herr Busch lied...and we all know that he did
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Einstein99 Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:20 PM
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20. Feinstein said it
before the boys did. So, who's got the balls?
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:22 PM
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21. He does this only w/thought of pres. candidacy, chances are razor thin
anyway, so it's academic, but good for unity's sake.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:33 PM
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22. BRAVO!!!!! Or is this just polictics by presidential aspirants again?
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 08:34 PM by Kahuna
I can't keep up. These people are blowing with the wind. Still, I'm glad they're repenting their votes.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:44 PM
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23. The more the better...

Please, let's put the Righteousness Olympics off for a bit.

Ordered by relative level of national importance (roughly)-

IWR "yes" votes publicly repudiated (7):

Kerry
Edwards (ret.)
Daschle (ret.)
Feinstein
Biden
Rockefeller
Harkin

IWR "yes" votes not yet publicly repudiated afaik (Blue State) (7):

Lieberman - important
H. Clinton - important
Schumer
Cantwell
Kohl
Dodd
Carper

IWR "yes" votes not yet publicly repudiated afaik (Red State) (9):

Reid - important
R. Nelson (FL)
Bayh
Landrieu
Lincoln
B. Nelson (NE)
T. Johnson
Dorgan
Baucus

IWR "yes" votes by Democrats now irrelevant (6):

Torricelli (ret.)
Cleland (ret.)
Z. Miller (ret.)
J. Carnahan (ret.)
Breaux (ret.)
Hollings (ret.)

Total: 29 "yes" votes by Democrats on October 10, 2002


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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:55 PM
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24. :"He made a mistake voting....."
TELL THat to the 2070+ American dead and the 10,0000+ wounded, not to mention the Iraqi casualties. F.U Biden and Co.!!!!!!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:58 PM
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25. ok now if he says "he made a mistake" voting on the bankruptcy bill
we might be getting somewhere.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:10 PM
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26. grand!
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:34 PM
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27. Does it really take that much courage at this point?
Could the war and this bozo of a CiC be any further down in the polls?

I'm glad he did it, but I'm against lionizing the guy more than he deserves.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:43 PM
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28. After World War One
Archduke Franz Ferdinand & Wife Found Alive!!!
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caelestissurf Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:48 PM
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29. Don't shoot the messenger
I do wonder honestly, if admitting that some of our leaders made a mistake, i.e. they were deceived by dimson, isn't going to hurt them with the people. If our leadership says a dumbass tricked them, doesn't that make their judgement circumspect? If we're lucky the American people will say "we were duped too, so we understand".
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:16 AM
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34. Hi caelestissurf!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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seejanerun Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:49 PM
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30. Biden, Obama, Reid and Eddie Bernice Johnson were here in Dallas
at a Democratic rally on Sunday. They were awesome, but it was Biden who suprised me the most. He was on fire! Not as cute as Barak Obama, though.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:52 PM
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31. Why didn't he say something months ago?
Jay Rockefeller said he made a mistake in July 2004! Why is Biden only now saying anything? Another DLC "let polls determine my position" politician.

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:02 PM
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33. This is unreal They're all so transparent.
While I'm THRILLED they're finally saying this, Hagel and Biden BOTH are running for President in '08. They BOTH have a motive and their timing is distasteful.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:22 AM
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36. Please tell me this man can be saved
I'll always remember how he handled the Bork hearings. It's saddened me to see him go so far afield. I'd love to have him back.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:32 AM
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37. There is no stopping it now, not just because of biden
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 11:33 AM by madokie
but because the american people have woke the fuck up, Katrina did it. Too many people perished because they were the wrong color and poor, I don't like that and most people don't either. This bunch of crooks are on the way out and it won't be too soon. Just don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out either because we're on your heals and we are gaining fast and madder than hell.

by gawd:
edit:to add
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:37 AM
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38. It's a start and all honest
politicians should take this stance for the good of this country. It's all about whether someone starts from a real or false premise.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:46 AM
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39. No matter what he says, Biden is a piece of crap. He knew full well
that Gonzalez was working to allow torture, and yet he voted to confirm anyway.

Biden will always go which way the wind is blowing, and right now, in his desire to run from President, he is riding the "I made a mistake" wave.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:51 AM
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40. Oh I thought he admitted his bankruptcy bill mistake. Haha!
Silly me!
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second edition Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:30 PM
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41. Kerry was the first to apologize for his vote, and to offer a detailed
plan. How could you have missed it?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:32 PM
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42. They should be saying THEY WE'RE LIED TO!
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