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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 07:29 AM
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Poll question: Did the management at the NYT realize this was going on?
Tuesday November 15, 2005.

Imus and Chris Matthews, host of MSNBC's "Hardball" talk about Judy Miller and The New York Times' role in the leak of a CIA agents name.


Chris Matthews: "There's a problem here. The problem, let me get to the journalistic problem. She gets fed this story by Scooter and Ahmad and whoever else is feeding her stuff and they have it set up for a Sunday morning edition, which is their big fat edition. Everybody gets up and reads Frank Rich and reads the front page and they have it all scheduled for September 8, 2002 that there all these aluminum tubes they found that can only be used for building nuclear weapons or whatever for developing nuclear material. And it runs on a Sunday morning. They go out and schedule all their big heavy hitters. The Vice President, Secretary of Defense, State, Rich Myers, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff, all these guys are scheduled for Sunday television. They all go on the Sunday shows, they all say 'Well Tim, did you see that piece in the Times this morning? Did you see that or whatever George?' And they all, like this alley-oop play where they feed it to the Sunday morning guests and then they put it in the basket. This whole, this choreography of this damn thing bugs me, because it shows that they played the media like a pinball machine and they did it to get us into the war and this evidence turned out not to be true. But because it's in the Times that morning and because these big shots say it on the air that day it gives it a veracity all during the week, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday we're saying 'Well the New York Times reported it this morning.' And what are the sources on the New York Times story? A former Hill aide. The former Hill aide is Scooter Libby and Ahmad Chalabi, the other character pushing this stuff. Chalabi of course, when he's on Charlie Rose tonight, that'd be interesting to watch him. I mean this guy, you know, he got us into this war and he just laughs it off. He said 'The end justifies the means. I got my country back. You know, what's your problem?'"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036713
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 07:34 AM
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1. there is no way they could not have been aware of that
once it happened the first time.

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 07:38 AM
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2. They are a freakin' news company!!! They had access to all the,...
,...contradictory information out there!! I'm sorry but, they HAD TO HAVE KNOWN!!! If they didn't, they aren't worth a shit as a news organization.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 07:39 AM
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3. When did Chris Matthews become a blithering idiot?
Has he always been this way? The choreography between the press and the pols disturbs him? Maybe his toe shoes are laced too tight.
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Lucille Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 07:57 AM
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4. He never watches or listens to himself
that's why he never before noticed the synergy between politians and the media.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 08:11 AM
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7. Yep. Maybe he should watch more t.v.
"Synergy" is a generous way to put it.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 07:58 AM
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5. Heard anyone else pointing this out?
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 08:01 AM by NNN0LHI
Wonder why the NYT hasn't? Maybe because this proves losing Miller isn't enough? Neat how the NYT uses Frank Rich as bait to draw people and then reels them in with the lies.

Don
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 08:09 AM
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6. You're right that he's stayed on this story through its development
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 08:09 AM by sfexpat2000
And, the level of discourse seems cartoonish to me. But, what took him so long, for one thing? Remember "fair game"? And for him to claim that the "choreography" bothers or surprises him is disingenuous. He's part of the dance and he knows it.

/typo

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 08:22 AM
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8. Oh I agree he laid back
But the NYT is still laying back on this even now. They should have had a front page article pointing this out the day after it happened. But they didn't. And they still haven't. That doesn't look good for the NYT.

Don
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 08:34 AM
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9. It's hard to take in how compromised the Times is, at this point.
And we're not even finished with this story.
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