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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 08:44 AM
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I tell you the Kerry I wish would run....BOB KERRY !!!

This is the man we need. He don't take a backseat or back talk from NOBODY.

Where the heck is that man ?
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 08:45 AM
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1. absolutely
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 08:47 AM
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2. Isn't he a war criminal?
I believe he confessed to some atrocities in Vietnam.
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 08:52 AM
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7. I just googled "Bob Kerrey war crimes"
He participated in the slaughter of women and children in Vietnam.

A fine, upstanding man indeed.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:08 AM
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13. I think there were 13 women and children
that were killed. He said he took responsibility for it because he was the commanding officer. It has taken a big toll on him mentally and he lives with it.

This was in Viet Nam 1969. The Swift Boats wouldn't work against him because he would confront them head on. His forthrightness would be refreshing for a change.

I think he would show what this country needs. Leadership.
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 10:35 AM
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18. It's taking a "toll on him mentally'?
POOR HIM!

:nopity:
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 08:53 AM
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8. He'd Be Swiftboated FAST
It's debateable if it was a massacre, but Kerry was involved in a nasty firefight that led to civilian deaths. Kerry's fault was he came out and admitted he was involved in the incident and that's all the Repugnicans needed to smear him as a "war criminal".

Bob's a good guy, but far too flaky to play on the national stage. He was great as the counterbalance on the 9/11 commission and great to hear him the other night with Colbert.
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 08:56 AM
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9. He was a SEAL or something and they right would pound him
over and over again with war crimes like they did John Kerry with shooting the viet cong fighter in the back. It's a no win.
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:01 AM
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10. They rounded up civilians
and massacred them, point-blank.

It's not a matter of the Right swiftboating him.

He IS a war criminal!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 08:46 PM
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25. Not true - They shot into a hut
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 09:06 PM by karynnj
which had only women and children - but they were told there were VC there. At the time it was disclosed in a NYT magazine article in 99 or 2000, there was an uproar.

One interesting thing is that the man in charge was the same Admiral Hoffman who was one of the lead SBVT. Douglas Brinkley spoke to other people who were under his command and in TV interviews said he was one of the worst people there.

John Kerry and another swiftboat captain avoided a similar situation. A man on one of their boats saw a person run into a earthen mound in the free fire zone. Rather than shoot as they were supposed to, Kerry left the boat and found the mound contained 41 women, children and old men. Kerry then radioed the big ship and reported that he had 41 civilians who needed to be brought in as they were malnourished. He was repeatedly asked "How many enemies killed?" and kept repeating civilians. He then broke off communications and the people were loaded onto the 2 swiftboats. The sailors gave them the food and drinks they had and took to the larger ship where they got medical assistance and were moved to an area not in the free fire zone. Per the other lt, Kerry got hell for doing this.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:10 AM
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14. He only lost one leg in Vietnam. Cleland lost three limbs and was run
out of office by the evil Saxby Chambliss who compared Max to both Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein.
:cry:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 08:49 PM
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26. One difference is that John Kerry did not shoot him in the back
That came from a RW columnist in the Boston Globe that was printed prior to the 1996 election - Kerry's toughest. At that time, many people in Kerry's line of command defended him as well as the people in his swiftboat.
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Midwest_Doc Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 08:49 AM
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3. I agree!
Bob Kerry is an intellectual, similar to Adlai Stevenson. He is thoughtful, analytical, and capable of nuanced reasoning.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 08:50 AM
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4. Sorry to say this, but he is
:puke: y. He looked like an idiot on the 9/11 commission and aided in the coverup. He lost many points with me.
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:36 AM
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17. IMHO - he is a neocon/bush sympatizer
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 09:41 AM by mazzarro
And a DLC'er also. Those in my view are disqualifying points.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:18 AM
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21. Bingo.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 08:07 PM
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23. Yep!
:dem:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 08:50 AM
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5. Anyone involved in the 911 commission cover-up
shouldn't be allowed to run for dog-catcher unless s/he comes clean
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 08:50 AM
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6. Except he would have voted for Bush's Social Security plan, and after he
did THEN you would have a thousand posts on DU saying that he his nose was completely up Bush's ass.

And if he had a vote during IWR, he would have very likely voted for it. And then would have taken the position that Bush rushed to war when weapons inspectors were proving war was not necessary, and he still would be accused of having his nose up Bush's ass.

Because that's just the way it works around here.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:02 AM
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11. For example....? n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:07 AM
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12. Nope,
no way.
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maximovich Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:13 AM
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15. No Way... 9-11 Commision Softball
That's all I'm gonna say.
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WyLoochka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:22 AM
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16. Bob Kerrey is one of those
Dem PNAC supporters - has been for years - he helped spread the Chalabi lies all through the 90's. NO WAY would I want him for Prez.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 10:38 AM
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19. heh
thanks for the chuckle. i needed it this morning.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 10:45 AM
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20. Wasn't he part of the group that helped to "sell" the invasion of Iraq?
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 10:45 AM by deutsey
http://www.prwatch.org/prwissues/2002Q4/war.html

SNIP

The newly-formed Committee for the Liberation of Iraq (CLI) sits at the center of the PR campaign, which is coordinated closely with other groups that are actively promoting an attack on Iraq, including the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, Middle East Forum, Project for a New American Century, the American Enterprise Institute, Hudson Institute, Hoover Institute, and the clients of media relations firm Benador Associations.

CLI sends its message to American citizens through meetings with newspaper editorial boards and journalists, framing the debate and providing background materials written by a close-knit web of supporters. CLI also works closely with Condoleezza Rice and other administration officials to sponsor foreign policy briefings and dinners.

SNIP

Other CLI advisory board members include:

former House Speaker Newt Gingrich

former Senator Bob Kerrey

Teamster President James Hoffa, Jr.

retired Generals Barry McCaffrey, Wayne Downing and Buster Glosson

Jeane Kirkpatrick, a White House and Pentagon advisor under former presidents Reagan and Bush who is currently an AEI senior fellow

Danielle Pletka, AEI vice president for Foreign and Defense Policy

former CIA director James Woolsey

top Pentagon advisor and AEI fellow Richard Perle, who helped sell the 1991 war in the Persian Gulf as co-chair of the Committee for Peace and Security in the Gulf (CPSG). According to journalist Jim Lobe, CPSG "worked closely with both the Bush Sr. administration in mobilizing support of the war, particularly in Congress, and with a second group financed by the Kuwaiti monarchy called Citizens for a Free Kuwait. CPSG also received a sizable grant from the Wisconsin-based Lynde & Harry Bradley Foundation, a major funder of both PNAC and AEI."

former New York Democratic Representative Stephen Solarz, who was Perle's former co-chair at CPSG

MORE...

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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 07:52 PM
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22. That list is
:puke:, :puke: and double :puke: :puke:
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:25 PM
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27. Ain't it the truth?
:evilfrown:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 08:10 PM
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24. rauL of FR had a confrontation with him
it was quite amusing. kerrey ripped him good, yet somehow the freeps 'won' by being bereated.
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 05:51 PM
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28. He ran and lost in 1992 in a weak field...I don't think he'd have a
chance in 2008 and besides, I think he's pretty much retired from electoral politics.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 05:55 PM
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29. Kerrey. And the massacre killed that possibility
It would be his Chappaquidick.
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