It's SO annoying when pesky details such as FACTS get in the way of ...

Comment from my pet republican on the legality of Iraq invasion:

Minor detail : Congress authorized Bush to go to war if he deemed it necessary to do so - democrats and republicans alike, including your hero John Kerry, voted to authorize his decision. Even Thomas Jefferson would recognize that makes it LEGAL. It's SO annoying when pesky details such as FACTS get in the way of one's opinion

The part I want to really point out here is his last sentence: It's SO annoying when pesky details such as FACTS get in the way of one's opinion

The IWR authorized the president to go to war UNDER SPECIFIC PROVISIONS which he completely ignored and violated.

If it had been a Democrat he would've been impeached on grounds of violating this document and its provisions.

was necessary after the weapons inspectors reported back to him with ON THE GROUND, CURRENT, REAL TIME FACTS that were proving military action was COMPLETELY UNWARRANTED.

In fact, the old intel was all completely INOPERABLE the moment that weapons inspectors started reporting back the facts on the ground in Iraq. So that BS about intel should be put to rest, too.

Everything Hitler did was legal too. Facts do get in the way when one close one's eyes, picks and chooses.


Bush Lied. People Died. Media Cheered.

the democrats that voted for that were gullible, stupid, cowardly, i dont know what, but they voted for a bill that gave bush the permission to do whatever he decided to do, whenever he decided, and however, without further oversight. period. it said he can fight his war on "terrorism" wherever it leads. all he had to do was pretend that thats what he was doing. duh.

so he and his whole administration were involved in a huge orchestration of lies to convince them to do it?
so what have the dems done about it? nothing much as far as I can tell. oh sure, now they are just starting to grumble a little. not good enough. they enabled it, they should BEG our forgiveness and try to make amends for their failures.

bush and all of his people deserve life in prison, they are war criminals, torturers, theives on a scale previously unimaginable. virtually any crime you charge saddam with you could equally charge against *.

i also blame the entire world for going along with this disgusting, evil game of theirs. the us should have been cut off, a pariah, sanctions, blockades, pull out the UN, until our government behaved civilized. no country has done much of anything. the entire world is complicit in this mass murder and world wide catastrophe.

...everyone else in the world for that murder?

IMHO, you have no idea what's gone on behind the scenes since the bogus December 2000 "selection". Everything that's becoming public now is a result of the behind-the-scenes alliance of a number of top Democrat/GOP politicians, intelligence operatives (current and former), DoJ officials, high-ranking senior officers throughout the military, some journalists who still value ethics/truth, and any number of other people that still believe in a democratic U. S.

I'm always amazed by those people who believe that change can be initiated at the snap of the fingers. How long do you think the radical rightwing plotted and maneuvered to take control of the American centers of power?

The current group of NeoCons have political descendants dating back to the post-WWII period....that's a long time to be building the structure necessary to enable the take-over of an entire government, don't you think? How long do you think it should take to get it back?

"It's SO annoying when pesky details such as FACTS get in the way of one's opinion." To bad he lets that happen to him, and doesn't recognize it as such. :eyes:

options before going to war, but turned his back on that promise?

Facts such as the resolution they voted for authorized him to go to the UN and look for a diplomatic way out.

They weren't signing on to write him a blank check to go to war.

The resolution wasn't a declaration of war.

And, if this guy wants to talk about facts:

Lets talk about forged intel.
Lets talk about WMD lies.
Lets talk about "28 days to Baghdad"
Lets talk about "The cost will only be 2 or 3 billion dollars
Lets talk about "Iraqis can pay it back with oil revenues"
Lets talk about Saddam/9-11 links that never really existed
Lets talk about over 2,000 unnecessary American deaths.
Lets talk about the lack of exit strategy
Lets talk about the soaring deficits this sent us into
Lets talk about Bush's failure to catch bin Laden
Lets talk about Bush'f failure to prevent 9/11
Lets talk about Cheney's secret energy meetings from summer 2001


Yeah, lets get all the facts in there, even if they get in the way of our opinions.

Congress gave * the keys to the car. Congress did NOT tell * to drive it off a cliff. He took care of that himself.

after all

So maybe that's not the best analogy to make.

I mean, it's not very responsible to give car keys to a drunk is it? Especially when that drunk is driving the nation....

and you wouldn't give a mad man a gun either...so maybe there's a need for a better analogy?

I'm just saying...

It is not responsible to give keys to a drunk
Therefore Congress is responsible because they did give the keys to a drunk.
We must remember, Congress is controlled by the republicans.

and should be held responsible for their actions.

Do you also agree a better analogy is needed?