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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:51 AM
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Bill Oreilly gets to use satire
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 12:25 PM by MichaelHarris
while Bill Maher gets fired from ABC, his old show for "satire"? His comment even had Bush's press secretary saying, "people need to watch what they say". How can the hypocrites not see the hypocrisy?

The problem here is that, based on facts and a level playing field the right-wing would crumble. Their arguments, their debate, and their reasons for protecting this administration would fall apart. The truth and the stories have to be twisted and distorted by the likes of Fox News to keep their viewership up, they can't afford to let controversies like this current Oreilly mess influence these numbers, that is why he will never retract the statement.

It's important to the population interested in this story to look at the two quotes, the first by Oreilly,

"And if al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we‘re not going to do anything about it. We‘re going to say, look, every other place in America is off-limits to you except San Francisco. You want to blow up the Colt Tower? Go ahead.

and Maher's,

"We have been the cowards, lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away. That's cowardly.....Staying in the airplane when it hits the building, say what you want about it, it's not cowardly."

It's exactly as it looks, one man saying it's OK to destroy an American city, satire or not, and another man commenting on what it takes to fly a plane into a building. The real irony here is Bill Maher was as close to right as you could get, it takes a lot of faith to do that. I would only add that bravery, faith, and crazy in this instance are interchangeable. In Bill Oreilly's case only crazy is involved.

Michael Harris
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:52 AM
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1. Yeah, good point.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 01:17 PM
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8. Thanks! Now let's
email the hell out of that cheap-ass plastic talking bobble-head, or as I like to call him, The talking penis with ears.
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stewert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:02 PM
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2. What About This !

When O'Reilly sued Al Franken over his book he said Frankens satire excuse would not fly. So in that case O'Reilly said Franken could not use the satire defense, now suddenly the satire defense is ok with O'Reilly.

O'Reilly is the king of hypocrites........
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:32 PM
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3. In one instance
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 12:35 PM by MichaelHarris
he calls Ann Coulter crazy for saying Tim McVey should have blown up the NYT building, (We ALL know she's crazy). Is it only satire when he uses it? My hope is with this post enough people will look up his comments when Bill Mahar said what he said, his comments on Ann Coulters statements and his comments on Franken.

With all those comments are compared his "satire" defense will really look as silly as it really is.

Wouldn't 5000 emails asking him if his "satire" defense is stronger than Franken's or Mahar's? Maybe we write the emails and cc them to Olberman, heck lets make it 10,000 emails.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:33 PM
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4. The one difference between the 2--Cable vs. network
cable is all but ignored by the FCC, now if Blow had said this on a network show maybe he'd get canned.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:42 PM
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5. You're right, the FCC
will never go after Fox News but other networks will, such as Olberman's show. He actually seems to like making Oreilly the fool. The trick here is to use the other networks disdain for Fox News combined with calls for Boycotts of advertisers. What I mean to say is show the advertisers what real journalists think about Fox and the hypocrisy of the network.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:48 PM
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6. you know it's only a matter of time beofre O'Lielly just completey self
destructs, hopefully it will be on the air.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 01:02 PM
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7. we keep this attack up
and he just might in the weeks to come. We have one news person doing it, Olberman not to mention The Daily Show having it's pokes.

If we could get every DUer to email Oreilly asking him why his satire is protected while everyone else's is bad for America, then we may get him to bust the purple, pulsating vein in his head.
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