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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:34 PM
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Good Lord Jesus, is this for real? "This war is for real"
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 12:49 PM by thereismore
On edit, quotation marks added. The following is quoted from this abomination of an insane article:

"They will pick off the other non-Muslim nations, one at a time. It will be increasingly easier for them. They already hold Spain hostage. It doesn't matter whether it was right or wrong for Spain to withdraw its troops from Iraq. Spain did it because the Muslim terrorists bombed their train, and told them to withdraw the troops. Anything else they want Spain to do, will be done. Spain is finished.

The next will probably be France. Our one hope on France is that they might see the light and realize that if we don't win, they are finished too, in that they can't resist the Muslim terrorists without us. However, it may already be too late for France. France is already 20 percent Muslim, and fading fast!

If we lose the war, our production, income, exports, and way of life will all vanish, as we know it. After losing, who would trade or deal with us, if they were threatened by the Muslims?

If we can't stop the Muslims, how could anyone else?"

More goodies at
http://www.eco.freedom.org/el/20051001/chong.shtml
:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:36 PM
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1. Why did you post this?
I'm confused.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:40 PM
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:44 PM
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10. Ahhhh you mean
clip clop clip clop

Whose walking over my bridge!?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:49 PM
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18. I think you take my meaning exactly. It would not pay to be too gruff, or
too explicit.

Another riddle: In what way are posts like teeth?
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:45 PM
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11. Sorry, it was a quote. Just another insane article out there,
has some of my neocon acquaintances orgasming.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:37 PM
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2. Do you need to maybe add some quote marks?
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:45 PM
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13. yep. thanks, done. nt
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Lowell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:39 PM
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3. What is your point?
This is the kind of crap seen over at Free Republic.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:47 PM
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15. The crap is the point. I got this from a neocon acquaintance.
Thought I would share it as an example of the insanity.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:55 PM
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23. "The Committee for the Clear and Present Danger".
The first Committee on the Present Danger was formed in 1950 by Cold War liberals who favored a policy of containment vis-à-vis the Soviet Union; the second installment came after Vietnam, launched by hawkish Democrats who felt their party had gone soft on the Reds, and who during the Reagan years had become active in Republican foreign-policy circles. Today, the latter group are known as neoconservatives. And like a graying '60s rock band reuniting for one last tour, they've decided that the old hits still have some life in them.--"Clear and Present Danger", by Jaideep Singh.

This fearmongering about "radical Islam" and "Islamofascists" is just a recycle of old Cold War fearmongering. In fact, some of the present-day neocons in the administration were directly involved in the old Cold War fearmongering, in the Nixon/Ford era.
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Lowell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 01:02 PM
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26. Okay. The crap is the point
I hear this all the time too. I was just wondering what it was doing here.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:40 PM
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5. Did you read the whole thing? Here's the footnote:
It has come to the attention of the editorial staff of eco-logic Powerhouse on-line that the article, This war is real, was not written by Major General Chong. According to information provided by an astute reader, Melissa Huante, who contacted the Air Force News Agency, Major General Chong had found the article and forwarded it to a colleague. However, as the article circulated, he was given credit as the author. When contacted by the Air Force News Agency, he revealed that he did not remember the true author.

We are continuing to receive a considerable amount of feed-back concerning this article.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:40 PM
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6. There are many ways to win this "war" that you describe, besides
going to war.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:40 PM
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7. what a fucking 'DU banned word'
he goes on about, how we need to stop being poLiticaLLy correct, and just state that this is a war against isLam; a war we need to win or we're aLL gonna die.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:41 PM
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8. idiot boy grabs sword & shield, goes on crusade
So Idiot America wants to revive the Crusades. Let them send their children and leave us out of the argument. Religious nuts, one and all. I personally don't give a crap what one does or does not believe, as long as they keep it to themselves.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:45 PM
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14. You hit the nail on the head: Let them send their Children, not ours,
don't send the ones who disagree with Invasion. Let them also pay for it themselves.

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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:42 PM
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9. From the Blog of a retired AIR FORCE General...
Allegedly...

Why am I not surprised about that kind of xenophbic bullshit coming from an alum of Colorado Springs?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:45 PM
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12. There's a growing Muslim population where I live
Does that mean my neighborhood is "fading fast"?

Bullshit. If you believe that crap you've been brainwashed. Muslims aren't a problem, BushCo is.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:48 PM
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17. No, please no. That post was done as
:sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 01:07 PM
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27. Sorry about that.. Originally it sounded like you supported the article
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:47 PM
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16. Are you a Racist?
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:50 PM
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21. A slight misunderstanding. Please read edited message again.
:hug:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:57 PM
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24. Ohkeedohke! - Sorry.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:49 PM
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19. "If we can't stop the Muslims"/Compare to:"If we can't stop the communists
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:52 PM
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22. That's a good response. A better one might be to charge the author with
hate speech.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:58 PM
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25. One really good thing about
growing older on each birthday is, you get to where you've heard the bullshit before.

And each time you hear the bullshit, you are less likely to get hysterical when fearmongers try to force you into supporting desperate actions--like this fraudulent Iraq war, for example.;-)
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Merrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:50 PM
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20. Damn right!
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 12:51 PM by Merrick
Y'all wanna start missin' precious Price is Right and Survivor time on yer mat prayin' to buddha five times a day when the Musdums take over or ya wanna start fightin'? Huh?! I say its about time y'all go sign yer kids up for the army lickity split! I'll be on the couch rootin' for y'all.
:sarcasm: (hopefully this thing to the left isnt really necessary)
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 01:13 PM
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28. Good grief...
Whoever authored this is a complete raving paranoid lunatic. I hope that they are no where near a position of power or influence in the present government. Wacko-extraordinare whomever it was who wrote this.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 01:13 PM
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29. Oh good grief
And who's going to stop their massive killings?
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 01:23 PM
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30. OK all you youngsters, gather 'round, and I'll tell you a story
Back in the old days, 1964 and 65, hell up to probably 70, there was a great evil threat to our freedom: Communism. But your forefathers had the strength and vision to put a line in the sand at a place called Vietnam. We decided that was all the farther them red devils were gonna git. Ya see, if we let them run over our good little yellow friends in saigon, well, then the reds would march into the phillipines, then to hawaii and the next thing you know there'd be commies in california then all over the us. Freedom would fall, just like DOMINOS!!! :sarcasm:


I just can't beileve anyone would march out that lame horse all over again. We heard it before, it was lies then. Didn't happen. countries fell, to insurgents, to dictators, but not to russia or mao. And not like dominos.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 01:39 PM
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31. Remember the "Domino Theory" of communism in the 1960s?
The hammer and sickle was going to spread one country at a time, enslaving us all. That was the main right-wing "argument" for U.S. involvement in vietnam. (Yeah, and it had **nothing** to do with KBR/Halliburton war profiteering. :sarcasm:)

Fast forward to 2005: "They will pick off the other non-Muslim nations, one at a time."

Sound familiar? :crazy:
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:43 PM
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32. Okay, I have re-read your post and gone to the link
and now understand you were posting it as an example of neocon thinking.

And now I'd like to address that. Because I think this is a rather valuable piece of writing. I think that this level of fear and intimidation motivates the right more than even religion. And the thing is (ducking flames) a lot of this information makes sense. But then it all has to do with perspective. You could look at this stuff and determine that, my God, they're after total world domination (with "they" being all Muslims) and we're screwed! And I know from reading a lot of Muslim sites that there are some of them out there, and the Taliban has been quite an example of what the Calliphate of the future could be like. (Put the flame thrower down now and read on.)

BUT you have to read this stuff with a bit of perspective. First, most propaganda is truth, but spun truth. After all, the Commies WERE out to bury us. We had their leader, Kruschev, come over here, take off his shoe (never did get that) pound it on the podium and tell us so. That was his goal and the goal of a lot of his cronies. Only thing is, the rest of the Soviet Union was more concerned with finding food and apartments. But it played real well in Peoria and hence McCarthy, VietNam, Bay of Pigs, etc. We know from history that there are always meglomaniacs out there who want it all. Some are motivated by religion, some by nationalism, some by who knows what? And this particular group did get our attention on 911, if you buy the official story, which I happen to. And it certainly is true that Europe is having culture wars. But, really, how organized is this attempt to take over the world? How down into the everyday Muslim does this desire extend? Could they ever really pull it off, or will they burn themselves out the way the Communists did? After all, you do finally run out of suicide bombers, I would think.

And this is my beef with Bush. I see that perhaps (PERHAPS) a credible threat exists, but he really went down the wrong path. If we have to fight a multi-decade war of creed we are going to need every asset, every dollar, every healthy American and we shouldn't be throwing it down the hole known as Iraq. He over-reacted with little thought for anything other than the gratification of going after the bad guys and that is not wise leadership.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:34 PM
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33. I agree. Iraq is a black hole for our resources.
They may be needed elsewhere, like, ehm, at home? The present situation is a result of reactionary thinking (make that overreactionary).
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