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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 11:59 AM
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Edited on Wed Oct-15-03 12:15 PM by protect freedom impe
bartcop rant :

Enron and the B.F.E.E. stole more from Cali-fornia than the current decifit.
They had a net plus, a surplus if you don't count Bush's energy rape.
Why didn't Davis mentiuon that every time he opened his mouth?
Was he looking to retire, and maybe get in a chorus line of pink tutus?




"We don't want to win - and we love Dubya the war hero."


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It all started on that terrible January day in WashDC.
The day the Democrats in Congress were too busy
kissing the rear end of the unelected oil stooge -

go to
http://www.bartcop.com/122cal.htm

and
http://www.bartcop.com/nonaug.htm

http://dir.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/01/20/protests/index.html


Yup old Daschle's own Senate website had a gushing ass kisser
diatribe that told us all 'how wonderful that day was',
how pleased Daschle was with Bush.


...Daschle didnt say a goddamned thing about a stolen election
...Daschle just went straight to kissing the rear end of the
court appointed PNAC war puppet.

...not a word about standing up for the majority of American
voters who elected Al Gore, NOT the PNAC puppet.

just plain old 'spineless leadership'.

so much for any OPPOSTION, in the OPPOSITION PArty
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ThorsteinVeblen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 12:05 PM
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1. For the Rest of My Life
I will always remember that dark day when Dick Gephardt went to the Rose Garden to kneel before Bush effectively ending any Democratic opposition to the resolution in the house.

I will never forgive Gephardt for his betrayal that day.

Gephardt should be stripped of any status he has in the Democratic Party.

If Gephardt, Lieberman or Kerry end up being the Democratic nominee, I will vote for Bush - that is both a promise and a threat. The Democratic Party needs to change. If it doesn't change, it needs to be destroyed.

Just say no to cowardice and corruption.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 12:09 PM
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3. Gephardt quit as minority leader after that
Minority leader was his "status"
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ThorsteinVeblen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:34 PM
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5. I am not talking about official position
Edited on Wed Oct-15-03 01:36 PM by ThorsteinVeblen
I am talking about influence, respect, power and status within the party.

As long as Gephardt is considered a "leader", "opinion maker" or "face" of the Democractic party, I will not be consider myself a Democrat.

Gephardt did not quit because of his shame at supporting the resolution. Gephardt quit for the same reason he supported the resolution - presidential viability. The fact that he considers himself presidential material is a joke. A sick, sad joke.

Bastard.

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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:53 PM
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6. I agree with you.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 12:07 PM
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2. Inflamatory
4. If you wish to start a vanity thread (ie: a discussion thread in which the sole purpose is to share your personal opinion) you must state your opinion in a non-inflammatory manner which respects differences in opinion and facilitates actual discussion.

You left out your personal opinion, and went straight for the flames.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 04:54 PM
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8. Trying to censor those with a different point of view?
- This is no more 'inflamatory' than many threads right now on this board...including the one that slams third party DUers.

- We need to be able to criticize our own party...otherwise we might as well be Republicans.
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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:20 PM
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4. Saturday, 6 January 2001 remember those who stood up to Bush
Saturday, 6 January 2001


Today was the day that Congress accepts or rejects the state electors. Any objections must come from at least one Representative and at least one Senator. As it turns out, a lot of Representatives did have objections to make, however none of them could find even a single Senator to co-sign the objections, so they didn't go through.

Gee, could this have anything to do with yesterday's news about the Senate committee sharing? A little quid pro quo. Not that I'm complaining too hard - the objections were just a gesture and wouldn't have gone anywhere, while the committee sharing is very real and will severely limit Bush's power. But it's worth remembering those Representatives who stood up to protest.


Here's a good quote from a statement issued by Democrats.com:



We are extremely proud of the fourteen Members of Congress who rose in protest today: Corrine Brown, Eva Clayton, Elijah Cummings, Peter Deutsch, Bob Filner, Jesse Jackson Jr., Eddie Bernice Johnson, Barbara Lee, Sheila Jackson Lee, Carrie Meek, Cynthia McKinney, Patsy Mink, Maxine Waters, and above all Alcee Hastings. As a result of their efforts, history will show that members of the Democratic Party were not willing to accept the ultimate crime against democracy - the theft of the Presidency.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 04:35 PM
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7. I salute them.
Why didn't anybody else rise up in protest? It is deserving that certain Democrats that don't want to fight to wear pink leotards.

I have no respect for people who lack passion and reason.


John
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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 05:01 PM
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9. forgot to post the link, here......
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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 05:05 PM
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10. "We will never get over this. Bush was not elected"
Rep. Corrine Brown, a Florida Democrat and member of the Congressional Black Caucus, said, "We keep hearing, 'Get over this.' We will never get over this. The Supreme Court selected George W. Bush as president -- he was not elected."

Gore denies objections
Saturday's formalization of the vote came only after members of the Black Caucus and several House colleagues objected and walked out in protest.

Reps. Peter Deutsch and Alcee Hastings, both Florida Democrats, made the first objections to the session based on parliamentary procedure, a symbolic protest over allegations of voting irregularities in the Sunshine State.

The objections were denied because rules require a signature from both a member of the House and a member of the Senate. No senator was willing to join the objections.

"I don't care that it is not signed by a senator," said Rep. Maxine Waters, a California Democrat.

......Afterwards, Hastings said he objected to the vote count "because of the overwhelming evidence of official misconduct, deliberate fraud, and an attempt to suppress voter turnout by unlawful means. I felt the necessity, as do my colleagues from the Congressional Black Caucus and other members of the House of Representatives, to object to the kinds of errors against democracy ... that were permitted in the state of Florida."

Speaking later at a news conference, Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson, vice chairman of the black caucus, echoed words from the U.S. civil rights movement: "How long will we suffer injustice in America? How long will we have to fight to perfect the 15th Amendment? How long will we have to struggle for something that should be every American's birthright?"

Johnson, a Democrat from Texas, said, "On election day, 100 million Americans went to the polls to make their voices heard. Those voices want to be heard still. No hyper-technical interpretation of election law should derail the intent of the voter."



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