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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:35 PM
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So, Is The LW Basically "Done" With Cindy Sheehan?
I don't mean that in a mean-spirited way, but it's quite obvious that a LOT of bigger RW fish are currently frying than was the case back in August. It seems like people have really lost interest in her cause.

Oh, sure, the occasional thread gets started at DU, but it seems like the left has moved on to more-germaine fare - as in, we're finally getting to the HEART of what's wrong with buscho. Cindy's plight was always a *symptom* of what was wrong with bushco, not a core issue.

Your thoughts?
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LeftNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:36 PM
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1. I think Cindy was sort of the battery that started this movement...
She made a mess of a what was to be a dull summer for Bush on the ranch. It snowballed from there.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:37 PM
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2. she has just been a little low key lately.
if she sets up camp somewhere again, there will be support.
when she speaks, people will still listen and sympathize.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:37 PM
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3. I don't think we would be at the point we're at now without her
the situation is much bigger now though
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:37 PM
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4. Why would you think that? That seems sort of strange. There's just a
whole lot going on right now that is important too. Oddly enough I saw something on here today where's she's supposed to be back in Crawford protesting over Thanksgiving. Don't know if it's true or not, but if she does I'm sure she'll be getting her share of attention.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:38 PM
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5. the media have other things to cover now
remember that the reason she got the attention was that it was August, a slow news month, and the reporters were at the ranch anyway. BTW, Cindy's going to be back in Crawford for Thanksgiving. Might be interesting to see how many folks are there with her.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:38 PM
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6. I think Cindy deserves the credit for being the catalyst
She was the driving force that made people start taking a look at the human cost of the war which in essence paved the way.
She is a hero although your implication that she is "left wing" is a little presumptious.
Her battle was non-partisan. Her detractors were not.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:38 PM
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7. I still feel she can put the heat on at any moment


She is like the Rosa Parks of the Iraq War.

She said outside that gate in Crawford until she got the country and the world behind her cause.

The Republicans pretended they were not concerned about her but they sure are starting to march to her drum real fast.
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junkiebrewster Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:39 PM
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8. I think
Cindy's plight is at the core of what's going on now.

If manipulated intel is proven, it pretty much confirms that (sadly) there was no noble cause or reason for being in Iraq.

She did well to drawing attention during Bush's vacation, but now so much other crap is happening, and on far higher levels, that she has taken a backseat.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:40 PM
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9. Cindy is one voice in the antiwar movement ...
A voice that gained a great deal of traction for a few news cycles, but just one voice nevertheless.

I disagree that people have really lost interest in her cause. Her cause is ending the war in Iraq, right? I think you'll find that liberals are just as interested in that as ever, even if they're not as interested in one particular personality of the movement. I'd like to think that, unlike conservatives, we're interested in the actual ideas and policies, not the personalities that push them. I'd like to believe that the cult of personality is a mostly right-wing phenomenon -- for every Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez or Cindy Sheehan, there's a dozen Pat Robertsons, Adolf Hitlers and George Bushes.

But maybe I'm wrong.

Note: No, I am not comparing Chavez to Castro, or Bush to Hitler. I'm just thinking of cults of personality on either side of the political spectrum. So please consider that before you post "Why do you HATE CHAVEZ?!!111!!!"
Thank you.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:40 PM
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10. I have no idea if anyone's "done" with her, but I see she got a rep
for speaking engagements.

http://www.speakingmatters.org/
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:42 PM
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11. i thought lw was fine support for cindy last aug.
she wouldnt have been heard nearly as loud without the left wing support.

i think it was mutual. i think the left wing praised and thanked cindy beyond, for what she does.

but cindy, was never the left wing, we became one with her.

i think she has to an extent walked away from the left wing, but i dont think we will ever walk away from cindy

this is her journey, i appreciate and respect her as she waks her journey
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:45 PM
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12. I have no idea what you are talking about. This is a multi-front battle.
I just do not get posts like this.
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EarlG ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:54 PM
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13. I think that despite the fact that she's getting a lot less press
attention these days, Cindy Sheehan was really the catalyst for everything we've seen since the summer. Her protest in Crawford was the first in a series of events which have led to Bush's precipitous drop in popularity, which is now starting to drag on the entire Republican party. She shone her spotlight on Bush and demanded accountability for the Iraq war at a time when the media was supposed to show him clearing brush and riding his bike.

It was only when he continually refused to meet with Cindy that the general public began to see Bush as aloof and disconnected, instead of "likeable" and "a man of the people." And it was that image that people took with them into his handling of Hurricane Katrina.

Clearly many things have happened since Cindy's protest in Crawford and now that the public at large sees the Iraq war as a bad thing, it's understandable that the media is not focusing on a single individual. She should keep on doing what she's doing, but I think that a repeat performance of last year's Crawford protest next summer would be really striking (presumably Bush will still be president and the Iraq war will still be going on at that point). I bet it would be huge.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:02 PM
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14. I don't see the total support for Cindy anymore either.
The Hillary lovers are pissed at her for exposing Hillary as nothing more than warmongering rethug in dem clothing. Also, Cindy has also spoken out about the Israel/Palestine conflict and the U.S. role in it which the Pro-Israel people are annoyed about.

IMNSHO, Cindy is spot on! We need to end the war in Iraq immediately, expose the frauds and liars in Washington for what they really are, forget about supporting any other countries political agenda and most importantly look after this country and it's people FIRST and FOREMOST!

And yeah, I know my answer isn't P.C. enough for most of the folks around here but we need to start getting real by expecting and demanding more of our elected officials-who work for us, don't forget! :grr:
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