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stewert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:56 PM
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O'Reilly Explains How Far-Left Smear Sites Work

O'Reilly should get an award for spinning, there are so many lies and half-truths in this TPM it's insane. He claims everyone else took him out of context and misrepresented what he said, and that he did nothing wrong. Then he says the internet people are lying about him and smearing him, now that's funny.

And the guest O'Reilly had on from San Fran did not disagree we are fighting a war on terror, he just said he would not call it a war on terror. His name is Todd Chretien, he is the author of Prop I.

O'REILLY: OK. But you - overall, overall, are we in the middle of a war on terror?

CHRETIEN: That's what the President calls it. I would call it somethin' else.

Full Transcript:

http://69.73.163.60/oreillysucks/viewtopic.php?t=3053

From his Tuesday 11-15-05 talking points memo San Francisco: Part Two.

Now "Talking Points" is actually pleased about the San Francisco controversy because this whole deal needs to be out in the open. The far left smear Web sites, which support the anti-military movement, have developed an effective way to punish people with whom they disagree.

And here's how it works. The smear sites print analysis that distort someone's position on an issue by taking it out of context, reporting humor as being serious, or flat-out lying about tone and substance.

Then the smear sites urge their readers to email threatening words to sponsors or demand a firing, whatever. The Internet gutter snipes also contact sympathizers in the mainstream media, who then publish the Internet defamation often without hearing the original remarks, which are at issue. Remember, there's a huge difference between a written transcript and actually hearing what was said.

In the past, the smear sites have been somewhat successful using these dishonest tactics, but now the game's up. Anyone, anyone who carries water for these far left sites will be exposed on this broadcast. Your right to know.

The Internet — the intent, I should say, of the smear sites is to intimidate free speech. This is not what America is supposed to be about.

So the smear sites must be exposed. They have hurt the country dramatically.

So there you have it. Our left wing San Francisco guest last night would not agree we're fighting a war on terror. And he's entitled to his opinion, but we are entitled to believe the opposite and to fight against dishonest ideologues. And I believe we're winning that fight.

And that's "The Memo."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,175713,00.html

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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:58 PM
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1. They ALL use the fucking term "Far Left" - Meaning, ANYONE who disagees...
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 04:01 PM by Zinfandel
with their lies and their fascist agenda and imperialism, is labeled!
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:02 PM
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7. Anyone To The Left Of Mussolini Is Far Left
The Professor
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PerpetualWinter Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:33 PM
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21. Thats okay...
plenty of people on this board do the same to the other side.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:14 PM
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23. I Gladly Cop To Far Left. Will Bin Reilly Cop To Far Right?
Or is he a coward?

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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:58 PM
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2. Here's how it works Bill
You say something stupid and bordering on sedition and treason, and we tell everybody what you said.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:00 PM
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3. No Bill, YOU have hurt this country dramatically
Feel free to let Bill know what you think
oreilly@foxnews.com
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:00 PM
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4. i will gladly give him my name to publish on tv.
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 04:04 PM by catmother
i have sent him e-mails in the past and dared him to read them on the air.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:06 PM
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9. Just took a five-minute break from work ...
... to check in on what's happening -- and there you are!!!
CU here later tonight?
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:07 PM
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12. yeah sis. i'll probably be around. n/t
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:01 PM
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5. The ol' 'just kidding' excuse works well when yelling "Hi, Jack!" ...
... on a airplane. Landfill O'Lielly should try it. :eyes:
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:01 PM
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6. This is how they smear him:
They publish what he says. I hate him.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:05 PM
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8. Why is O'Reilly keeping the most important
reason for the vote in San Francisco from his audience?

The 'smear sites' will have to tell the truth about that I suppose.

Since the general public is only now learning that hidden in the No Child Left Behind bill was the clause that allowed the Military to get personal information on children without their parents' knowledge, and that schools are not allowed to tell parents when the military requests such information, unless the parents object, which of course they can't do, unless they know about the law, it might interest O'Reilly's audience to know these facts. especially those who are getting demanding calls from military recruiters.

Poor BOR, if only he would learn to be a real reporter, he might not be in so much trouble all the time. I have a feeling that when parents learn what No Child Left Behind really means, they will not be angry at the so-called 'smear sites' ~

I also think that the title for this bill was a cynical joke against the parents of this country ~ I'd like to know who came up with that title.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:06 PM
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10. Why not bring back Jack Mehoffer?
:D
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:07 PM
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11. Here's the MEAN part Bill
There are people out there who are taping the things that you say. And worse, using those tapes to prove you said it.

Want us off your back?

Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:11 PM
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13. just think about. we have over 80,000 registered users. how
many websites similar to ours are out there? granted not all 80,000 have given their opinion on o'reilly, but the amount is probably staggering. he better plan on doing a whole show with just printing our names.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:11 PM
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14. We don't have to do anything to smear O'Lielly
There are already 1000's of hours of video tape full of his lies, smears and attacks.

Sorry, Bile if you can't take the heat, then go Cheney yourself.

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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:12 PM
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15. O'Reilly is what's wrong with TV and America
Can we deport him?
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Karmageddon Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:12 PM
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16. Fuck o'really. His ratings are tanking and he's crying for attention.
Like a 3 year old throwing a temper tantrum in the grocery store when his mommy won't buy Twinkies.
I prefer to ignore him. He's irrelevant.
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stewert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:15 PM
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24. Reality Check.......

O'Reilly is a right-wing Nazi who spins and lies his ass off every night, but his ratings are not tanking.

Monday night O'Reilly had 3.1 million viewers, that is up from his 2.5 million average for October.
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Karmageddon Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:08 PM
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32. Damn. I hate it when you're right. Thanks for the correction.
He's still a crybaby punk though.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:14 PM
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17. I'll make you an offer Bill, we'll stop telling the truth about you if you
stop telling lies about us.

It's an offer that Adlai Stevens made to your ilk long ago, but I'll put it back on the table despite that fact that you ignored it before.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:17 PM
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18. O'Reilly Exclusive: Pot Exposes Kettle
I love how people like O'Reilly and Rushbo know us oh so well. Ya know they were one of us once, weren't they? :crazy:

And, they, in their infinite wisdom (fed by drugs and ego) are able to decifer how our minds work even better than we can think ourselves. Amazing :banghead:

Now let's ignore that the above mentioned tactics are ones right out of the Atwater/Rove playbook as to how to astroturf a message through the media...using smear sites like "Powerline" and sympathetic "mainstream media" outlet like Faux and planted liars on CNN and MSNBC.

Yep, Bill...we've been had...you're so smart, we should never have even thought about calling you on your lies and distortions. Ya know how much damage you inflicted on that Franken guy when he tried to call you on your bullshit.

:rofl:
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jane_pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:18 PM
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19. "there's a huge difference between a written transcript and actually ...
hearing what was said"

:rofl:

I bet Bill. I guess that's the reason why you had a little minion of yours delete the transcript from your website. It's better to hear the hate directly. Plus, reading is for ugly nerds. Right?
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:22 PM
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20. It's 'far left' because...
EVERYBODY'S to the far left of bin Reilly!
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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:52 PM
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22. Thanks for explaining to me how these internets work, Billy.
Now I'll tell you how it really works.

When voters express themselves democratically at the voting booth, they have the right to do so without the Gestapo (that would be you, Billy) advocating death, destruction and mayhem upon them. When Americans subsequently complain about the Gestapo (you again, Billy) scare tactics they have the right to do that without fear of intimidation. See this system has worked out pretty darn good for us for the last 200 odd years and we kinda like it. So I suggest you pull yourself up by the bootstraps and get on board with this democracy thing or catch the first boat out of here.


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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:17 PM
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25. bin'Reilly is admitting his entire act is humor, and the joke's on the
wingnuts that take him seriously. Sure does fatten up the bank account.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:22 PM
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26. Here, Dipshit. If you're gonna project, do it right.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:24 PM
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27. What's more funny Colbert's Note or Oreally's Memo?
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stewert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 06:25 PM
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31. Colbert.........

Colbert has "The Word" and O'Reilly has the talking points memo.

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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:29 PM
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28. Does Bill O'Reilly honestly think that his opinion on "smear" has any
credibility? This man is a walking, talking bobblehead who has done nothing productive in his life. If he was so confident that his words were being taken out of "context," and not out of truth, his minions wouldn't have used an eraser to wipe the stuff off of his web site.

Slime is slime, Billy Boy. Exactly what kind of personality do you think people believe a sexually harassing cad has about the world around him, anyway? You are both irresponsible and a traitor - and should be fired. That's right - FIRED. Your remarks do nothing to serve the public interest.
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Batgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:34 PM
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29. "The intent of the smear sites is to intimidate free speech"
And you would know all about intimidation, right Bill? This is the guy who contemplated how great it would be if he could shoot Al Franken.

Anyone who wants lessons in intimidation need only google "Bill O'Reilly quotes", his asninine comments make up an entire sub-universe of the Internet.

"I just wish Katrina had only hit the United Nations building, nothing else, just had flooded them out. And I wouldn't have rescued them."

"He got up in front of a national audience and called me a liar for 20 minutes. President Andrew Jackson would have put a bullet between his eyes."

"Get out! Get out of my studio before I tear you to fucking pieces!" (to Jeremy Glick.)

Also, the use of organized economic pressure is apparently just fine when O'Reilly does it:
"The only thing we can do is hold people who raise and give money to the ACLU accountable. In the weeks to come, The Factor will tell you who these people and organizations are, so you can decide whether or not you want to do business with them."

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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 06:03 PM
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30. He's like a parody of a loudmouth drunken mick mouthing off on a...
barstool. And, of course, he would go down with one punch. He's just a choleric asshole.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:10 PM
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33. Watch out bill
WE REALLY ARE AFTER YOU

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:14 PM
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34. Ohhhhh.. NOW I get the Colbert report's "The Word"
:D
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:20 PM
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35. Bwahahaha, the "can't you take a joke?" defense
No, Bill, we know you are incapable of humor. Try again, you pig.
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