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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:09 PM
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IT'S HADLEY
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 04:10 PM by Stephanie
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/National_Security_Adviser_was_Woodwards_source_1116.html

National Security Adviser was Woodward's source, attorneys say
Larisa Alexandrovna and Jason Leopold

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National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley was the senior administration official who told Washington Post Assistant Managing Editor Bob Woodward that Valerie Plame Wilson was a covert CIA officer, attorneys close to the investigation and intelligence officials tell RAW STORY.

Testifying under oath Monday to Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, Woodward recounted a casual conversation he had with Hadley, these sources say. Hadley did not return a call seeking comment.

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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:11 PM
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1. Is there a possibility of more than one source?
But still :wow:

The White House is in disarray and they are firing at each other at will now and not stopping to aim. :popcorn:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:16 PM
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6. There is another "unnamed official"
As per the original WaPo story.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:23 PM
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15. No media personality or White House official has enough credibility
to be taken as a single source in this investigation. Fitzgerald is making everybody come with proof and eyewitnesses. Trust but verify is the coin of the investigation realm now. just lovin' it!

But still :wow: and pass the :popcorn:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:11 PM
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2. Did he not report to DOCTOR Rice at the time? nt
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:13 PM
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3. Yeah, but it can't be her--she's going to be
president some day.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:14 PM
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4. Oh that's right. Plus she is "squeaky clean" according to the GOP nt
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:19 PM
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13. Yep, almost joined at the hip
The Source Beyond Rove
Condoleezza Rice at the Center of the Plame Scandal

July 27th, 2005

“We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud." It was September 2002, and then-National Security Advisor, now-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was fastening on CNN perhaps the most memorable and frightening single link in the Bush regime’s chain of lies propagandizing the war on Iraq. Behind her carefully planted one-liner with its grim imagery was the whole larger hoax about Saddam Hussein possessing or about to acquire weapons of mass destruction, a deception as blatant and inflammatory as claims of the Iraqi dictator’s ties to Al Qaeda.

Rice’s demagogic scare tactic was also very much part of the tangled history of alleged Iraqi purchases of uranium from Niger, the fabrication leading to ex-Ambassador Joseph Wilson’s now famous exposé of the fraud, the administration’s immediate retaliatory “outing” of Wilson’s wife Valerie Plame as a CIA operative, and now the revelation that the President’s supreme political strategist Karl Rove and Vice President Dick Cheney’s Chief of Staff Lewis Libby were involved in that potentially criminal leak—altogether the most serious political crisis Bush has faced. In fact, though her pivotal role has been missed entirely—or deliberately ignored—in both the media feeding frenzy and the rising political clamor, now-Secretary of State Rice was also deeply embroiled in the Niger uranium-Plame scandal, arguably as much as or more so than either Rove or Libby.

For those who know the invariably central role of the NSC Advisor in sensitive political subjects in foreign policy and in White House leaks to the media as well as tending of policy, especially in George W. Bush’s rigidly disciplined, relentlessly political regime, Rice by both commission and omission was integral in perpetrating the original fraud of Niger, and then inevitably in the vengeful betrayal of Plame’s identity. None of that spilling of secrets for crass political retribution could have gone on without her knowledge and approval, and thus complicity. Little of it could have happened without her participation, if not as a leaker herself, at least with her direction and with her scripting.

http://www.egp360.net/midnightride/morris_2005_07_24.shtml

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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:14 PM
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5. Ever wonder how it could be that I'm always right?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:17 PM
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10. Well done. nt
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:17 PM
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11. Yep, let's investigate this...fully
:rofl: ;)
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:32 PM
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18. very mysterious
Condi, is that you?
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Nordic65 Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:16 PM
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7. Conspiracy...
This presidency is done for
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:16 PM
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8. No! - Crashcart's personal choice to replace Scooter?
I'm shocked, I tell ya.

Shocked.
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:16 PM
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9. So much for National Security. n/t
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Nordic65 Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:21 PM
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14. WOW, NSA blowing CIA-agents cover
That's one for the recordbooks...
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:25 PM
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16. Indeed.
What is it about this administration? Is there an honest one in the bunch? This really goes beyond the pale.
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:18 PM
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12. If that was Rice's deputy...
and Rice was the president's NSA, that puts it all right next to W.
Good times.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:28 PM
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17. Source for article
Whose attorneys are leaking this stuff and why?

And who told Cheney about Valerie, so that he could pass that information on to Libby?

And who told Hadley in the first place?

This is shaping up to be a very complex and hard to grasp series of events. I would like journalists and dem leaders to start making the point that it looks like at least three senior officials were earnestly talking about ways to discredit Wilson. Forget about Fitzgerald...that will evolve on its own. The issue can be simplified. It has to be made clear that the WH was riddled with people involved in the leak (illegal or not) and that there has been no effort to come clean and explain who and why. And that any interpretation of events looks really bad for the administration...after all they outed a CIA agent either 1) through incompetence and recklessness, or 2) intentional criminal action. Simple.
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:34 PM
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20. From the Raw Story article
In March 2003, the White House Iraq Group began doing a work-up on Joseph Wilson. Hadley was present at some of these meetings.

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:33 PM
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19. Hadley was rumored to be cooperating with Fitzgerald
Curiouser and curiouser.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:58 PM
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23. Well he did - he revealed the info about Woodward
Forcing Woodward to fess up and testify. If I'm understanding it right.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:27 PM
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26. That's pretty much what I gathered from this one.
Nothing new for Fitzgerald, unless Hadley and/or Woodward lied and he has other evidence to demonstrate it, at least.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:38 PM
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21. Finally!
Hadley and Wurmser have been in the background, in FitzG.'s pocket, apparently forgotten by all. Now we know part of what he got from Hadley, what did he get from Wurmser? Also, Andy Card is now being named by the editor of WaPo, on Blitzer.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:38 PM
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22. This probably also means Hadley was Novak's original source
Look at the similarites between what Novak & Woodward say:

Bob Woodward: Woodward said the unnamed official told him about Plame "in an offhand, casual manner . . . almost gossip" and that "I didn't attach any great significance to it."

Robert Novak: During a long conversation with a senior administration official, I asked why Wilson was assigned the mission to Niger. He said Wilson had been sent by the CIA's counterproliferation section at the suggestion of one of its employees, his wife. It was an offhand revelation from this official, who is no partisan gunslinger.


Two "off-hand revelations" - from the same source. Hadley has been described as very quiet & low-key, no partisan gunslinger, & was suspected of being Novak's source even before this. This seems to pretty much clinch it.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:59 PM
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25. fascinating
so they coordinated their cover story -
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:59 PM
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24. another thread says CARD. Was just on CNN.
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