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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:09 PM
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RAW STORY: WOODWARDS WH SOURCE=HADLEY
National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley was the senior administration official who told Washington Post Assistant Managing Editor Bob Woodward that Valerie Plame Wilson was a covert CIA officer, attorneys close to the investigation and intelligence officials tell RAW STORY.

Testifying under oath Monday to Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, Woodward recounted a casual conversation he had with Hadley, these sources say. Hadley did not return a call seeking comment.

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/National_Security_Adviser_was_Woodwards_source_1116.html
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:10 PM
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1. Aww....Hadwee didn't wetuwn the caw?
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:11 PM
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2. And at the time, he was working for ...
Condoskeezza, who was VERY tight with .... this story is turning into a parlor game.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:16 PM
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11. Cheney and Libby
in the WH on June 12, 2003

And Bush, Rice, Powell, Card, Bartlett and Fleischer on Air Force 1, on July 7, 2003.

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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:11 PM
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3. you mean the same Hadley who this pass weekend said * didn't lie...?
down they go.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:12 PM
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4. Can we make it simple and just label them all as the criminals they are?
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Im with Rosey Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:25 PM
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19. They are all FILTHY
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:12 PM
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5. It sounds as if they were told to fan out and leak the information
so it would be sure to be printed by someone.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:17 PM
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13. Why were the Wilson's so important to them
to require this level of response?

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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:21 PM
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16. Revenge, pure and simple
it's a vengeful crowd.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:27 PM
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21. No there's more to it then just revenge
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 04:28 PM by DoYouEverWonder
they also killed David Kelly during that period. Why were they so afraid about the agents who know the truth about Iraq and WMD's?

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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:21 PM
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38. NO!
That's what they want you to believe. That's the red herring.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:27 PM
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39. It's not just Wilson - they wanted to shut down REAL WMD INTELLIGENCE
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 05:29 PM by Nothing Without Hope
so that they could get away with stovepiping their manufactured lies. Plame was a crucial figure in WMD intel work, and when she was outed, so was the whole cover company Brewster-Jennings. It's more than revenge - it's suppression of real intelligence.

I also strongly suspect that there was a plot at the time to plant bogus WMDs in Iraq. There are multiple reasons for suspecting this and for also that David Kelley was killed because he found out something about it. They wouldn't want any eyes open when they pulled this. More info and thinking on this in Peace Patriot's famous post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5049555
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:47 PM
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29. That's what it looks like doesn't it? Of course, that implies that the
orders were given by Bush or Cheney. It doesn't seem likely that they would have all come to the same idea of leaking Plame's name to the press without one central person coming up with the directive. Can you say conspiracy?
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:55 PM
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33. That is what makes it a conspiracy under the Espionage Act
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:12 PM
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6. Hmmmm....
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:52 PM
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31. Props, you called it. I don't think that's the end, though. n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:35 PM
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40. ewwww right on alcibiades_mystery! Named the pig in the poke!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:12 PM
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7. Cheney's new Chief of Staff?
So both Libby and Hadley worked for Cheney.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:14 PM
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9. No, Hadley worked for Rice.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:13 PM
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8. Mr. Niger/Yellowcake himself. The 16 words in the SotU are on his head.
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 04:14 PM by Roland99
when I read Plan of Attack and the issue of the 16 words in the SotU came up, I remember getting from the book that Hadley let it get into the speech. He didn't pass up to Rice et al that the docs were forgeries
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:16 PM
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10. Damn, he didn't last long
Got his 15 minutes of face time on TV and POOF, gone like a fucking puff of smoke.

HA
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:17 PM
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12. LOL -- it's always Hadley's fault!

Condi didn't get the memo? It's Hadley's fault!
Bush too scared to meet with Cindy Sheehan -- send Hadley!
Somebody outed a CIA agent -- it's our man Hadley!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:17 PM
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14. So Hadley Card & Libby but not their Bosses... It looks like
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 04:37 PM by lovuian
Bob was part of Mockingbird to me just like Judith and was hoping he wouldn't get called in...

But he was...part of the Bush propoganda machine ... He worked for Naval Intelligience he knew better... A minor skull & Boner...

He stinks and his testimony stinks!!!

and Pat Roberts is definitely looking like part of the coverup and coconspirator!!!
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:20 PM
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15. A great read...
November 16, 2005
Bob Woodward
From his involvement in uncovering Richard Nixon's illegal activities during Watergate, and documented in the book All the President's Men, we would think that Bob Woodward was a muckraker, a truthteller, an investigative journalist of the highest order.

However, today, highly esteemed journalist Bob Woodward completed his free-fall from the idealistic journalist of old--the one who showed tremendous integrity and perseverance while protecting the American public from their corrupt government--to the journalist of today who protects his own self interests and connections to a corrupt White House.

Today, Bob Woodward announced his more than two year involvement and the following coverup of the most devasting spy leak to ever come from the White House...Valerie Plame.

Exerpts from Woodwards statement:

(see rest at the link)
http://www.democracycellproject.net/blog/archives/2005/11/bob_woodwardpre.html
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:25 PM
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18. The Voices in Their Brains never Stop
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 04:25 PM by kpete

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:00 PM
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36. Love this article Thanks and it said it all!!! This man has been
brought Journalism to great heights and now may have destroyed it!!!
and yet no man has that power to suppress TRUTH!!!
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m_welby Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:25 PM
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17. Doesn't that make it a conspiricy?


When it was just libby, its hard to prove conspiricy, now it gets easier.

Ahhh, the sound of sleazoids twisting in the wind.
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Halliburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:55 PM
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34. libby, hadley, rove
you only need two for a conspiracy and fitz has got three!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:27 PM
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20. LOL! Oh, That's RICH! The Cheney Office Revolving Door in Action
How long before Hadley's gone?
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:28 PM
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22. Hmmmm, I hear the sound of boxes being packed as we speak
:rofl:
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:30 PM
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23. Professor Plum with a uranium tube?
:crazy:
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:33 PM
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25. LOL!
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:31 PM
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24. Quite a recipe here:
Hadley was involved in the yellowcake forgery and prior to getting his NSA post,--like before he started chrning up sh*t for the current administration, he was part of The Scowcroft (as in Brent) Group.
He's also an Eli.
Hadley may well be one of Pappy's plants.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:36 PM
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26. How Odd!!!???
... how odd was it that they trotted out Hadley this weekend to spout the "Democrats-had-the-same-intelligence" talking point on a number of shows?

I mean, they had to know this guy may have benn going down. Have they, like the U.S. Army, run out of troops to trot out to battle?
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:46 PM
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28. Your comment deals with one of the weirdest parts of this
story--at least at this point in time. It has always been a bunler's holiday. So much for their execution of the cloak and dagger stuff.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:49 PM
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30. What is a bunler's holiday?
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:53 PM
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32. Simple: It's DaV*nci Code for Bungler's Holiday!
Sorry--I'm too distracted--jamming this in between actual work--to proofread what I have typed.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:58 PM
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35. "Bungler"
a person whose carelessness or incompetence causes failure

Wow. You got that right. Now get back to work! (sorry I never get a chance to say that to anyone)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:40 PM
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41. Dat funny...
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:39 PM
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27. but, but BOLTON gets to to it! Why can't Hadley do it, too???
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 04:40 PM by donkeyotay
Remember the Senate hearings? Bolton, Scumbag Extraordinaire, was being investigated for screaming at analysts, offering to throw people out of windows and using intelligence intercepts. The Senate wanted to see the names of citizens included in those intercepts, and wasn't it Rice who blocked that? I could be wrong. But I'm starting to think our security could be in better hands... Yeah, CONDI FOR FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT!

snip from OP:
Hadley served as Deputy National Security Advisor during the first term of the Bush presidency under then-National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice. Former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, who is now under indictment in Fitzgerald’s case for obstruction of justice and perjury, along with Rice and Hadley, were members of the National Security Council and of the White House Iraq Group, which was tasked with selling the war in Iraq to the public.

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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 05:05 PM
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37. Not to worry...
"National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley was the senior administration official who told Washington Post Assistant Managing Editor Bob Woodward that Valerie Plame Wilson was a covert CIA officer..." 11/16/05 http://rawstory.com/news/2005/National_Security_Adviser_was_Woodwards_source_1116.html

"He's made it very clear to people in his administration that he expects them to adhere to the highest standards of conduct. If anyone in this administration was involved in it, they would no longer be in this administration....What I've made clear is that if anybody has information relating to this, they need to report it to the Department of Justice, and the Department of Justice should pursue it to the fullest. " ~ Scotty McBullShit, Office of the Press Secretary, September 29, 2003

Hadley will be called on the carpet and summarily fired before the day is out. Yeah. Right. :eyes:
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 07:37 PM
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42. Kick and recommend!
:kick:
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 08:16 PM
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43. On Olberman
John Dean just said that an FBI source confirmed the source was Hadley
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:50 PM
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44. RawStory Confirms it was Hadley >>>>
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Sources_who_identified_Hadley_as_Woodwards_1118.html

When pressed further, the sources told RAW STORY there is a record at the National Security Council of Hadley’s meeting with Woodward.

A White House spokesperson denied Friday that Hadley was Woodward’s source. The individual declined to go on the record by name, saying the issue is sensitive, but denied categorically that the National Security Adviser had told Woodward of Plame.

The official asked that RAW STORY not use direct quotes, and said they had given similar instructions to other reporters. When asked about Hadley's comments to the press Friday, the official said ambiguity was not intended.

Lawyers familiar with the case said that Hadley spoke to Woodward in June 2003 about Plame and had revealed her identity in an off-handed manner during an interview Woodward was conducting for his book, “Plan of Attack.”

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:51 PM
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45. Nice going, Mr. NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER!
They can't be more disgusting, can they? :nuke:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:56 PM
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46. SO......will Hadley be indicted? Did he testify before the Grand Jury and
lie? Now we have a Cheney advisor AND a Bush advisor involved. They're ALL guilty as hell.
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